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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 01:02, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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T Express

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T Express, September 2008
T Express, September 2008
  • ... that T Express (pictured) is the tallest wooden roller coaster in the world tied with Wildfire, as well as the tenth fastest and third longest? Source: [1][2][3]
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: I expanded this article 5x from a poorly referenced stub. Expansion began at 22 Jul 2023. I checked it with DYKChecker before nominating this article. I have one other DYK nomination at Prodigy Education, so I do not need a QPQ as of right now.

5x expanded by Prodraxis (talk). Self-nominated at 15:54, 25 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/T Express; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I will give this a full review later. However, I should quickly note that Mitch Hawker's poll is unscientific (it's an internet survey that any member of the public could just fill out), in contrast to something like the Golden Ticket Awards, which polls experts. Hawker's poll was removed from roller coaster articles recently, so I'm not sure if it should be included here either. Epicgenius (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Per the subsequent edits that were made on the page which removed information from this article that would 1)disqualify it from the 5X requirement and 2) were completely justified I think it would be a good idea to put this on hold until I can get a successful GAN for this. — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 15:29, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Wait a sec @Epicgenius:, I think I got it expanded to 5x again, thus making this eligible again for DYK. — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 23:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: I have corrected the stats - apparently I have mistranslated some of them from the Korean sources. As for the hook I think we can use the condensed hook you proposed. Oh, and as for DYKCheck the same problem happened on my end too - maybe the script is glitching or something. The script is working again and it said the article was eligible for DYK - looked like it was glitching for a sec. — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 03:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Fixed it (it was 3 million - more bad translations from my end, I apologize.) — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 20:30, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

General eligibility:

  • New enough: Yes
  • Long enough: No - Yes, the expansion is from 1010 to 5167 characters of prose. For some reason, DYKcheck is not showing the page as expanded sufficiently.
  • Other problems: No - I was wondering about the quote "Within its first 6 months of opening, more than 100,000 people rode T Express, and by the end of its first year of operations, more than 175 million people have rode T Express". That seems exceedingly high. If the roller coaster were operating 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, at full capacity (and most roller coasters never meet their full capacity), T Express could only handle 13.14 million riders. If the roller coaster operates only seasonally, then that figure is even less, but it's physically impossible for the ride to have 175 million riders per year if the capacity is 1,500 riders per hour. Perhaps you meant 175 thousand riders, or 1.75 million riders?
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - See below
  • Other problems: No - I would condense the hook, as it's trying to jam too many facts into a single hook (e.g. "... that T Express (pictured) is the tallest, tenth fastest and third longest wooden roller coaster in the world?) There is no source in the article for T Express being tied with Wildfire for tallest, but you can use RCDB to cite that.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Prodraxis: Nice work on this article. There are a few things that need to be revised. I've fixed the most straightforward issues, but there are a few more major concerns above. Epicgenius (talk) 00:06, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Everything looks good to me now. However, someone else will have to review the revised hook, as I cannot review a hook that I have proposed myself. Epicgenius (talk) 13:18, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Actually, I forgot that the prose says that the ride had 300 million riders in two years. This is also not physically possible for the reasons I mentioned above. Perhaps this is supposed to be 3 million? Epicgenius (talk) 15:13, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Epic's hook pushes this past the line. I checked all of the items listed above in the article text and all seem to be addressed (they are out of order here so it was not entirely easy). New enough (when posted), long enough for the 5x, QPQ complete, no copyvio. Great image too. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:38, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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