Template:Did you know nominations/The Devil in Love (opera)
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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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The Devil in Love (opera)
Alexander Vustin in 1983
... that the opera The Devil in Love by Alexander Vustin (pictured) took 15 years to be completed in 1989, and 20 more years to be premiered for the centenary of a Moscow theatre?Source: several
- Reviewed: Buruciye Medrese
- Comment: sad story - composer worked 15 years on it, then it took another 20 years to be performed, and now he died just a year later - the article was begun, and the image taken, by his colleague who also just died - I hope the image will appear, as a memorial to both. - DYK check doesn't recognize a 5-times expansion because for a reason I don't know it counts material in the early version as prose which isn't.
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:22, 1 May 2020 (UTC).
I'll do this one. You are correct, the DYK checker is really weird. It says that in its present version it has 2302 char (379 words) and that the 20 June 2018 version had 3622 char (189 words). Anyone can visually see the error. So I copied the text only portion into another tool. The results are currently 2300 char; original text 611 char. 5x expansion would be 3055, thus we need 755 more char to meet the requirement. SusunW (talk) 15:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, makes sense, - I'll deliver, but probably not today. I asked at project opera, but no response so far. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- SusunW, I hope it's long enough now ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- 2nd reviewers, please note that I also reviewed the text of 2 October 2017 at 05:10, as it represents the largest history the file had prior to Gerda's expansion. After omitting the message "error: [undefined] Error: {{Lang}}: no text (help): text has italic markup (help)" from the count, as it was clearly not article prose, there were 613 char before RnB reverted back to 2017-07-02 19:58:34. The only difference in the two versions is "The Russian language" from a broken pipe was reverted. The change represented 21 characters. Based on it's largest previous size of 613, 3065 char would be required. I come up with 3089. So you should be good to go on the expansion part. I'll do the rest of the review in a bit. SusunW (talk) 23:09, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt Expansion began on 24 April and it was nominated on 1 May. New enough. Long enough. Neutral. Cited. No apparent copyvios. QPQ done. Photograph appears to be freely distributable and is used in the article. Hook at 165 char is under maximum of 200. I see nothing in Tsenova that gives me dates that the citation says are on page 213. They do however appear in this source, so if you add the citation, you should be fine. The piece by Mir confirms that the premier coincided with the centennial celebrations of the theater in 2019. The problem is that in my math, the difference between 1989 and 2019 is 30 years, not 20 and the difference between 1975 and 1989 is 14. So the hook needs to be adjusted. I'm signing off for the night, so I'll be glad to look again tomorrow. SusunW (talk) 23:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oops, my math ... - changed the difference,
- Corrected: ... that the opera The Devil in Love by Alexander Vustin (pictured) took 15 years to be completed in 1989, and 30 more years to be premiered for the centenary of a Moscow theatre?
- For a duration, you have one more, the first year is a year and the last ;) - also I should not contradict the source + it's the prettier number + it doesn't matter, is only a synonym for loooong, in a way. I hope the composer saw and enjoyed the premiere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt Expansion began on 24 April and it was nominated on 1 May. New enough. Long enough. Neutral. Cited. No apparent copyvios. QPQ done. Photograph appears to be freely distributable and is used in the article. Hook at 165 char is under maximum of 200. I see nothing in Tsenova that gives me dates that the citation says are on page 213. They do however appear in this source, so if you add the citation, you should be fine. The piece by Mir confirms that the premier coincided with the centennial celebrations of the theater in 2019. The problem is that in my math, the difference between 1989 and 2019 is 30 years, not 20 and the difference between 1975 and 1989 is 14. So the hook needs to be adjusted. I'm signing off for the night, so I'll be glad to look again tomorrow. SusunW (talk) 23:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- 2nd reviewers, please note that I also reviewed the text of 2 October 2017 at 05:10, as it represents the largest history the file had prior to Gerda's expansion. After omitting the message "error: [undefined] Error: {{Lang}}: no text (help): text has italic markup (help)" from the count, as it was clearly not article prose, there were 613 char before RnB reverted back to 2017-07-02 19:58:34. The only difference in the two versions is "The Russian language" from a broken pipe was reverted. The change represented 21 characters. Based on it's largest previous size of 613, 3065 char would be required. I come up with 3089. So you should be good to go on the expansion part. I'll do the rest of the review in a bit. SusunW (talk) 23:09, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
