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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by   Tentinator   08:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

The Fourth Sign

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  • ... that The Fourth Sign's shape has been seen as a reference to the legs and claws of a crab?

Created by RichardMcCoy (talk). Nominated by Tentinator (talk) at 17:46, 26 December 2013 (UTC).

  • Nominated for DYK two days after creation, and is about 2500 characters, satisfying date and length criteria (it includes a long quotation of 268 characters, but the article satisfies the criteria even when that is excluded). The text states "it was observed that", but doesn't state who made the observation (the author of that article, I assume, but this should be explicitly stated). The text "The sculpture was commissioned by the Hawaiian State Foundation of Culture and the Arts in accordance with the Art in State Buildings Law" is almost identical to the source and must be changed, or removed as a copyvio. The ref for the second paragraph of the history section only applies to the last sentence; all other statements in that paragraph are unsourced. I am assuming good faith for ref 3. (I found a copy of ref 2 on Charlot's website.) This is a third-party nomination, so QPQ is not required but would be welcome. Mindmatrix 00:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
  • One other note: the text states "many have seen in its shape as a reference to the legs and claws of a crab", but the citation only has the author of that document making that reference. Mindmatrix 00:16, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Looks good to me. Please feel free to edit in the way that you think fits best! Thanks! --RichardMcCoy (talk) 13:00, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • While I don't mind making changes to articles I review on DYK (as I've already done with this article), the bulk of the issues highlighted in a review are the responsibility of the original author or nominator to resolve. Without addressing the issues I've listed above, this DYK nomination will be rejected. Mindmatrix 15:25, 11 January 2014 (UTC)