Template:Did you know nominations/The French Lieutenant's Woman
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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 04:44, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
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The French Lieutenant's Woman[edit]
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- ... that John Fowles' postmodern novel The French Lieutenant's Woman both emulated and criticized popular Victorian novels, like those of Charles Dickens and Thomas Hardy?
5x expanded by Sadads (talk). Self nominated at 22:10, 1 November 2013 (UTC).
- Nice nomination Alex. Age is fine and its well referenced and is still being actively improved. I'm not an English lit person so I found the academic language difficult but luckily the wiki links enable me to decode the terms. One bit talks about "The novel creates a number of binaries between men and women" which I would have to start googling to find out what binaries might mean in this context. (To misquote - There are 10 types of people in English Lit - those who understand "binaries" and those that don't. :-) ) I'll finish this off once Ive looked further. Victuallers (talk) 09:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- Expansion is fine. There are a few unreferenced paragraphs including commentary inside the plot summary. (needs fixing). I think the hook fact is implicit in the article but I can't nail down where it says it. Nearest I could find is "Partially, references to other texts act in "ironic play" and parody with Victorian conventions for fiction. Linda Hutcheons describes the works William Thackery, George Eliot, Charles Dickens, Froude and Thomas Hardy as directly referenced" which is reffed and is a hooky fact but its not the one in yoiur hook IMO. Do guide me if Ive missed it. (btw - what does "directly refernced" mean in this context?). Hope this helps. I think if you can add the missing refs and sharpen the hook to article match then this a go-er. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 09:49, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Victuallers:, I reexamined the source and clarified the language in the below alt hook and the article. Also, fixed the binaries concern, Sadads (talk) 16:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- alt hook: ... that John Fowles' postmodern novel The French Lieutenant's Woman both emulated and parodied popular Victorian novels, like those of Charles Dickens and Thomas Hardy?
Thanks for fixing those. I fixed the missing refs. Strong article. Thanks again Victuallers (talk) 20:07, 26 November 2013 (UTC)