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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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The Three Kings
[edit]- ... that the Epiphany anthem "The Three Kings" describes the visit of the Biblical Magi (pictured) to the baby Jesus? BBC
- Reviewed: Lizzie (2017 film)
- Comment: For Epiphany (6 January)
Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 00:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC).
Article has been expanded recently enough and is long enough. H.N. Bate is not mentioned in the source. Where is the Nativity mentioned in source #3? The source #4 does not say "for solo only" Where is "translated for the local parish church"? Not seeing the information on "Persian references" in the source given. I am also having some difficulty with the last two sentences of the "Music" paragraph. Finally, the last source does not appear to support its paragraph at all. Didn't notice any copyvio or plagiarism. Hook is moderately only interesting and needs the disambig link taken out. Otherwise seems well sourced, although I wonder about the use of italics in the source. QPQ is a bit short. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: I have made adjustments and source additions based upon your comments. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Still seeing problems with "nativity", "persian references" (where is it said that they were omitted) and the last source. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:41, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: The Visit of the Magi is a part of the Nativity of Jesus, they came just after the Shepherd's visit. The two separate carols sources show the comparasons in interpretations, whereby the first doesn't mention Persians while the more commonly used one does. As for the last source, I have added a source detailing the person who compiled the hymnal, which the original one clearly lists The Three Kings as being in it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'd say "including directly calling the kings Persian" for the Persian bit. For the solo, I'd drop the "predominant". Source does not seem to say that "The carol is regularly performed by the Choir of King's College, Cambridge during their annual televised Nine Lessons and Carols Christmas service at King's College Chapel." Last paragraph is still unsupported. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:15, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: I have made the changes. But I do not understand what you mean by the last paragraph as there are sources supporting it? One to cover the author and one including the list of carols contained within where it specifically says "Three Kings from Persian lands afar (Three Kings, The)". The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
The issue I have is that
In 2016, the carol was included by the head of chapel music at Winchester College, Malcolm Archeris not supported by the source. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: The source says "who has put it together" and gives a description of Archer including his Winchester chapel school work. I'm not too sure I follow your comment? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ah. Seems like it is mentioned in the next source that this particular carol is included. Also, you cannot fix a broken notification - you need to write a new notification on a new line. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:56, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Point taken. Given that I have fixed all the issues that you raised, could you add the green tick? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
as one of the Google Books links doesn't show me the right pages. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:05, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Point taken. Given that I have fixed all the issues that you raised, could you add the green tick? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ah. Seems like it is mentioned in the next source that this particular carol is included. Also, you cannot fix a broken notification - you need to write a new notification on a new line. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:56, 1 January 2017 (UTC)