Template:Did you know nominations/Topaz War Relocation Center
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:48, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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Topaz War Relocation Center[edit]
- ... that sixty-five percent of internees at the Topaz War Relocation Center were American-born citizens of Japanese immigrants? Source: "Sixty-five percent of the population [of Topaz] had been born in the United States, which is a higher proportion than in many Utah cities during the nineteenth century" Price of Prejudice by Leonard Arrington and others.
- ALT1:... that an absence of normal family life contributed to teenage delinquency in the Topaz War Relocation Center? Source: "Part of the "delinquency" was a result of the breakdown of family life in camp. Parents whose roles were undercut by the internment were unable to control their children, who left the small rooms early in the morning and returned only to sleep. Almost everyone ate at long tables in the mess halls, and teenagers often sat with their friends; even the semblance of normal family life disappeared. The lack of privacy also made disciplining difficult." Jewel of the Desert
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jordan Misja Artistic Lyceum and Template:Did you know nominations/Sol-20 (both of my reviews were ancillary, but helpful)
- Comment: the percentage of American immigrants at Topaz is similar to other internment camps, but I think it's still an interesting fact. I can write other hooks if these aren't interesting enough.
Improved to Good Article status by Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 21:16, 30 August 2018 (UTC).
Article was elevated to GA on 29 August. Article appears to meet criteria stated at WP:DYKRULES and meets specifically criteria 1F. Suggested hooks are cited to reliable sources. Article appears to be within policy. QPQ has been met.- I suggest that the original hook be used but that a link to Nisei#American Nisei be included as well, thus reading
ALT2: "... that sixty-five percent of internees at the Topaz War Relocation Center were American-born citizens of Japanese immigrants? Source: "Sixty-five percent of the population [of Topaz] had been born in the United States, which is a higher proportion than in many Utah cities during the nineteenth century" Price of Prejudice by Leonard Arrington and others.- Utilizing the same source may I also suggest the following hook:
- ALT3 "... that the majority of the interned Japanese Americans at Topaz War Relocation Center, in Utah, were from the San Francisco Bay Area? Source: "A similar distribution as made in the Bay area of California, where most inhabitants of Topaz resided before and after the war." Price of Prejudice by Leonard Arrington and others.
- --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:40, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the review! I think a link to Nisei is helpful. I think we need a separate reviewer for ALT3, since RightCowLeftCoast proposed it. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:58, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- Honestly I find ALT3 to be rather bland, or at the very least inferior to the other proposed hooks. Taking this into account, let's stick with ALT2. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:35, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
@Rachel Helps (BYU): Actually, though ALT2 is my preference, I'm not sure about the wording: "American-born citizens of Japanese immigrants"? It sounds off to me. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:26, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- What would you suggest instead? "American citizens born to Japanese immigrants" is another possible wording. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:54, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds better but still kind of reads awkwardly. Is simply "Japanese Americans" not accurate? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:28, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- The distinction is important because official citizenship at the time wasn't sufficient proof of a person's "Americanness." Internees took questionnaires about their level of Americanization, and despite the fact that they were American citizens, they were not treated like citizens. Some Japanese immigrants still held their allegiance to the Japanese emperor and would not have considered themselves American. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia categorization suggests "American-born citizens of Japanese descent". Yoninah (talk) 18:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 do you have a preference? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- What Yoninah suggested. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 16:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- ALT4: "... that sixty-five percent of internees at the Topaz War Relocation Center were American-born citizens of Japanese descent?" Source: "Sixty-five percent of the population [of Topaz] had been born in the United States, which is a higher proportion than in many Utah cities during the nineteenth century" Price of Prejudice by Leonard Arrington and others. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:38, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
- What Yoninah suggested. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 16:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- The distinction is important because official citizenship at the time wasn't sufficient proof of a person's "Americanness." Internees took questionnaires about their level of Americanization, and despite the fact that they were American citizens, they were not treated like citizens. Some Japanese immigrants still held their allegiance to the Japanese emperor and would not have considered themselves American. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:58, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds better but still kind of reads awkwardly. Is simply "Japanese Americans" not accurate? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:28, 12 October 2018 (UTC)