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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Montanabw(talk) 02:02, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

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Trump National Golf Club Westchester[edit]

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Created by Ɱ (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC).

  • @Ɱ: New enough, long enough, QPQ present, hook is interesting and cited. However, I'm only counting three episodes (one in Season 1 and two in Season 10), according to the article. Which is correct? Raymie (t • c) 06:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
@Raymie: They were both two-part finales, ergo, four episodes. Noted in article. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 14:08, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that. Good to go! Raymie (t • c) 18:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • The source for the first part of the hook fact mentions nothing about a two-part finale. Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • It does appear there was a two-part finale (see The Apprentice (U.S. season 1)), where the final challenge started on the second-to-last episode. I'm just having trouble finding a source that plainly says it like that. Raymie (t • c) 18:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
@Yoninah: I would fully trust rationale like Raymie's to be acceptable. That logic should really suffice, but if necessary I can cite the episodes themselves as a good compromise. Thanks --ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 00:25, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Per Wikipedia:Did you know#Eligibility criteria 3. Cited hook: The fact(s) mentioned in the hook must be cited in the article. I would also trust Raymie on an uncited fact in a DYK article, but this fact is in the hook. Perhaps another hook should be suggested? Yoninah (talk) 13:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Trump National Golf Club Westchester was constructed in the "toughest place to build on the planet"?
ALT2: ... that initiation fees at Trump National Golf Club Westchester have dropped $150,000 since 2001?
Fine with either, though the initial one could be supported by citing the episodes, which I can do easily if it's acceptable. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Ɱ: go ahead, we're waiting for you to do that. Otherwise, I like ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 22:38, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Ɱ: I see you're linking the season 1 two-part finale to a Wikipedia article that has no sources. It's not clear or verified that it was a two-part finale, the way the season 10 two-part finale is verified by the source. Yoninah (talk) 10:16, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I'm not citing Wikipedia. Yes the citations use wikilinks, but the only thing I'm citing is the actual show, which is an acceptable source. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 19:30, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Ɱ: OK, let's resolve it this way. The ALT0 hook says there were four episodes, and four episodes are indeed cited: Weeks 13 and 14 of season 1, and a "two-part finale" of season 10. What has been confusing me is that in your article, you're calling Weeks 13 and 14 a "two-part finale", but there is no indication of that in the sources. I suggest you either find a different source to back it up, or just call it "the two last shows of the season" in the article. But I'll go ahead and approve your original hook, which is verified and cited inline. ALT2, which seems more hooky to me, is also verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Raymie. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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