Template:Did you know nominations/Valdemārs Klētnieks
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The result was: promoted by Vincent60030 (talk) 19:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
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Valdemārs Klētnieks
... that Valdemārs Klētnieks was the national Scout Commissioner for Latvia before World War II, but fled his country after the Scout president, Kārlis Goppers, was executed after a show trial?ALT1:... that the Latvian Boy Scout handbook written in 1933 by Valdemārs Klētnieks was destroyedburnedby the communists during the Soviet occupation of Latvia in 1940?Source: "1940 gada komunisti pec Latvijas okupacijas jauiespiesto gromatu Latviesu skautisma pilngadiba iznicinaja" — "Ugunskurā Beidz Kvēlot Ogles", Latvija Amerika (in Latvian)
Created by JGHowes (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 18:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC).
Comment: I've added Alt1 which is reliably sourced by a newspaper clipping, albeit printed in Latvian. The other hook is problematic, because some sources indicate that Kletnieks remained in Latvia after the execution of Goppers until 1944. JGHowes talk 01:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'd say ALT1 is also problematic, both because the source seemingly doesn't mention burning (it says 'destroy' from what I gather, notably the burning of literature has a specific historical connotation. In this case, regardless of how the books were destroyed and in what quantities, it would presumably not have been as a public ritual) and secondly because just saying 'the communists' is quite ambiguous. Who were the ones carrying out the action? Soviet military forces? NKVD? The Latvian Communist Party? --Soman (talk) 21:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Soman, Thanks for noting the apparent mis-translation. I've changed the article and Alt1 hook to "destroyed". The cited newspaper article simply says "komunisti", without further specifying. In any case, the repression was certainly at the behest of Soviet authorities, as this study states, viz., page 311 (which I've now cited in this article as well as Karlis Goppers). JGHowes talk 23:15, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. I am not going to approve ALT0 given the original article writer's reservations, but ALT1 with the noted correction looks fine (AGF on the Latvian-language source which is in the correct position to back the hook statement). No textual issues I see otherwise. For the ease of a promoter, the final approved hook is available below. Raymie (t • c) 02:41, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Latvian Boy Scout handbook, written in 1933 by Valdemārs Klētnieks, was destroyed by the communists during the Soviet occupation of Latvia in 1940?
