Template:Did you know nominations/Vijaya Melnick

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The result was: promoted by Intelligentsium 22:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Vijaya Melnick[edit]

  • ... that Vijaya Melnick was the First Vice president, and is now Co-President of the International Health Awareness Net Work, which is an affiliate of the United Nations?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 02:40, 3 April 2016 (UTC).

  • DYK checklist template
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Passes DYK checklist.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:48, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook fact does not reflect the source. She was the "First Vice President", not the "first" vice president. I also find the hook boring. She is such a well-educated and accomplished woman; could you find something hooky to say about her? Yoninah (talk) 23:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Yoninah Thanks. I have fixed the required reference and made corrections in the hook. I propose the following two hooks.Nvvchar. 02:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Alt1... that Vijaya Melnick commenting on demographic status of women versus men said "We know from demographic reports, that over 4 to 5 million women go missing every year from the world!"?

Alt2 ... that Vijaya Melnick speaking on 28 October 2014 at the Conference on the Culture of Peace said the assault on women "...continues to be our greatest shame and tragedy"?

  • @Nvvchar: you know, this article is hardly start-class. I started going through it to check it against the sources and found that you are saying very little about a very active and accomplished woman. In the lead you are emphasizing her positions in education and health but in the body you are only talking about her academic career. The speech with the quotes that you've chosen for ALT1 and ALT2 comes out of left field; not sure what it even has to do with her biography. Perhaps you could stick to a standard biography outline and list her attainments, awards, memberships, etc., in some kind of order. She apparently has a whole list of research papers, of which some should be listed here. Yoninah (talk) 20:24, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Yoninah I agree that Melnick has an excellent track record in her education and career. I have now added more text in the main article. I have also added some more of her publications - all that I could find after a long google search. I now suggest this ALT3 hook:
  • ALT3: ... that Vijaya Melnick is member of several national and international institutions dealing with education and health, and her name finds mention in the Who's Who publications?
  • I would be happy if any other alternative hook could be suggested by you.Nvvchar. 12:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
  • @Nvvchar: thank you for fixing up the article. I changed the infobox and did some more fixes. There's obviously more to say about her, but this meets DYK start-class rule. ALT3 is pretty bland. How about going with your ALT2 suggestion, edited:
  • ALT4: ... that speaking at the 2014 Conference on the Culture of Peace, Vijaya Melnick said that violence against women "continues to be our greatest shame and tragedy"? Yoninah (talk) 22:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
  • ALT4 is very fine. Thank you.Nvvchar. 01:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Great. Since I just clarified "assault on women" as "violence against women" per the source, I'll go ahead and approve this. ALT4 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Doug Coldwell. ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)