Template:Did you know nominations/Wildlife of Libya

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The result was: promoted by Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 17:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC).

Wildlife of Libya[edit]

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... that among some of the non-marine mollusks of wildlife of Libya Melanoides tuberculata (pictured) is listed by IUCN as of least concern?

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5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 03:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC).

I haven't reviewed the article but this hook isn't sufficiently interesting. Can another one be selected? Espresso Addict (talk) 03:16, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hard to find a catchy Hook. I suggest this ALT1 Hook ... that along the 2000 km (1200 mi) coast line, the Mediterranean monk seal (pictured) species is part of the wildlife of Libya but its dwindling numbers has lead to its listing as Critically Endangered?--Nvvchar. 09:08, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Endangered is always more hooky than not endangered! The hook is over 200 characters, but a shortened version should work. Perhaps omit the coastline, which is leading to very clunky phrasing, for something like:

ALT2: ... that dwindling numbers of the Mediterranean monk seal (pictured), part of Libya's wildlife, have led to its listing as Critically Endangered?

Expansion checks out. Referencing is to reliable sources, but more prolific citations would be helpful throughout. In particular, refs 2,11 do not appear to mention the Mediterranean monk seal. Also, the first paragraph under the heading Aqua fauna needs a reference. The image is a painting which is out of copyright. If it's used, then the alt text needs to state that it is a painting (with the artist), rather than a photograph. The article could do with a copy edit, as it reads rather oddly in parts and I noticed several typos. I haven't formally checked for close paraphrasing but that might be another problem, as the source sections I checked while looking to confirm the hook appeared rather similar to the article text -- though both sides are list heavy. Espresso Addict (talk) 17:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

In ref 2, in the first para under National History specific mention of Mediterranean monk seal is made. I have shifted the reference to the end of the second line of the para. The first paragraph of Aqua fauna section hes been referenced now. I have corrected the typos and also fixed unit conversions. I have tried to keep the list as small as possible. Wherever coloued sketches of birds or mammals have been posted I have now indicated the author of the sketch or painting. I have also done c/e wherever I found the sentences are odd. Since there is no specific requirement for DYK (this was mentioned by reviwer on my earlier article on wildlife) to put all species list under a Table, I have reatined it in the prose form. In earlier times when I had used the table form, I was asked to change it to prose format. I can do it both ways.--Nvvchar. 17:04, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for making the reference clearer; I don't know why I missed it before! However, it supports "critically endangered", but not "numbers dwindling"; it doesn't look as if the CE designation necessarily implies numbers are currently falling. Spot checks did not reveal any text copying. The article is still in need of a thorough copy edit; it is full of grammatical problems. Personally, I think the readability would be greatly improved if some of the lists were recast as bullet points or tables -- they are very hard to read, particularly when mainly composed of red links -- but this does tend to reduce the "DYK-able" text. I'd be inclined to IAR that problem as the readability is far more important. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:23, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I have addressed all issues suggested above. I have preferred bullet points. Some redlinks have been changed to blue as Dr. Blofeld had created stubs for protected areas of Libya. The word dwindling is now removed in the article. However, the figures given in the references show a falling count for various years. The modified hook ALT1 ... that along the 2000 km (1200 mi) coast line, the Mediterranean monk seal (pictured) species is part of the wildlife of Libya and is listed as Critically Endangered? could be considered. --Nvvchar. 12:00, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Article looks OK to me in its present form. I have verified and approve the following simplified version of that last ALT hook:

ALT3 ... that the wildlife of Libya include the Mediterranean monk seal (pictured), which is listed as Critically Endangered? --Orlady (talk) 02:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)