Template:Did you know nominations/Zeynab Begum

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 11:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Zeynab Begum[edit]

  • ... that Zeynab Begum was one of the most influential princesses of Iran's Safavid dynasty?
    • ALT1:... that Zeynab Begum was a princess of Iran's Safavid dynasty who held numerous functions at the top of the empire's bureaucratic system, and, apart from also being the leading matriarch in the royal harem for many years, she also acted on occasion as kingmaker?

Created by LouisAragon (talk). Self-nominated at 01:33, 16 March 2017 (UTC).

  • Long enough. Not new enough. Article was created on Feb. 28 and nominated on March 16, which is more than 7 days later. Otherwise it looks good, so I'm going to approve it because (1) it seems overly picky to reject a good nomination by a new nominator just because the author waited a little too long to nominate the article; (2) this is an article about a female historical figure and it's Women's History Month; and (3) if the DYK experts object, they can simply refuse to promote it and send me to the dungeon of bad DYK reviewers. As to the rest: article is neutral, has inline citations, copyvio unlikely (per Earwig), original hook is short enough, formatted properly, and hooky enough (ALT1 is too long), QPQ not needed, No image. --MopTop (talk) 22:32, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but first did a copyedit on the whole article and added some "citation needed" tags to key facts. ALT0 is very good. ALT1 is too long and clunky, but could be shortened to:
  • ALT2: ... that Zeynab Begum, the leading matriarch in the royal harem of Iran's Safavid dynasty, occasionally acted as a kingmaker? Yoninah (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah:, hi, she was one of the many leading matriarchs that happened to exist during the existance of the dynasty (there were other leading matriarchs at other times), so I'd say ALT2 is not entirely on point. I'm also completely fine with just simply taking ALT0 and leaving it at that. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 01:29, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Adressed those two cn tags as well. Though both sentences are completely backed up by the Ghereghlou (2009) source provided at the bottom of the article, I agree that two additional inline refs make it look more neat. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:44, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Restoring tick to offline hook refs; rest of review per MopTop. Yoninah (talk) 11:01, 19 March 2017 (UTC)