Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Lansun

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The result was: promoted by sst^flyer 08:25, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Zhou Lansun

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• ... that Cao Yanhua won her first national table tennis championship after only two months of training under world champion Zhou Lansun, who she said was like a devil?

• Reviewed: Short-billed leaftosser

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:57, 20 September 2015 (UTC).

• Long enough, new enough, neutral, QPQ done; hook OK; sources are Chinesey enough to prevent me verifying if there is copyvio etc, but you'd be hard pushed to do a close paraphrasing of Chinese in English, so we'll assume it's fine. Good to go. Belle (talk) 11:52, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

• Since you reverted my edit correction on grammar. "who she said" is incorrect English and is properly "whom". But, hey, don't take my word for it: Rules for usage of who and whom. — Maile (talk) 21:28, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• @Maile66: But in this case, the "who/whom" is not a verb object or preposition complement. It's clearer when we reconstruct the clause as a standalone sentence: "She said he was like a devil", not "She said him was like a devil." Hence it's who, not whom. Also pinging @Belle:. -Zanhe (talk) 21:37, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• This is a fun debate. No kidding. By putting the clause after the subject, with a comma, you make it the objective case.— Maile (talk) 21:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• A fun debate indeed. I don't recall having a debate on English grammar since high school. The problem with your argument is that the verb of the clause, "said", cannot take a person as an object. Its object is instead another clause, i.e., "he was like a devil", of which "he/who" is the subject. -Zanhe (talk) 21:47, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• I know (the fun part). I don't agree, but I'm going to let you have it like you think is correct, because we shouldn't have one of those endless threads if this is to be promoted. See you at the next fun grammar party! LOL. — Maile (talk) 21:54, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• As the saying goes, "Bad grammar makes me (and you) [sic]!"{{cn}}. LOL. -Zanhe (talk) 22:05, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• Ahahahahahahaha. I don't think I've ever heard that saying. — Maile (talk) 22:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)