Template talk:POTD/2024-11-30

Licence status

Hi @Schwede66, Ahecht, Dumelow, and Black Kite: - I just wanted to follow up on the discussion that we had at [1] last year. The consensus there seemed to be that the Churchill image didn't satisfy PD-US... But when I look at the File on Commons, it seems like it has both a valid PD-Canada licence and a PD-US licence, stating various reasons why the image is now out of copyright. That would appear to make it eligible.

It's complicated by the fact that the licence on that image has separate sections for "physical object" and "photograph", but I'm not sure what that's about... If I take a photograph of another photograph, I'm not adding any derivative originality to it, so I would have thought only the copyright on the original is relevant here...

I've moved the POTD to 30 November 2024 to coincide with his 150th birthday, so no tearing hurry but would be good to settle the question once and for all. Do you guys think it's OK or not? Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 13:32, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm still not convinced. The PD-US tag says that it was not published in the US within 30 days of its publication abroad, but the linked page describing the image says "Newspapers and magazines worldwide published the photograph, establishing Karsh’s international reputation and making him a household name." The PD US tag also requires that it either was published without a copyright notice (which the Life magazine cover certainly had) or before the US and Canada established copyright relations, which happened in 1924. --Ahecht (TALK
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