Template talk:WikiDonation
Financial info
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/WMF_Support_and_Revenue%2C_Expenses_and_Net_Assets_at_Year_End.jpg/400px-WMF_Support_and_Revenue%2C_Expenses_and_Net_Assets_at_Year_End.jpg)
Black: Net assets (excluding the Wikimedia Endowment, which currently stands at $100m+)
Green: Revenue (excluding third-party donations to Wikimedia Endowment)
Red: Expenses (including WMF payments to Wikimedia Endowment)
Great job! I wonder whether it would be worth linking to some WMF financial information as well. The graphic on the right is eloquent by itself.
Other resources one could link to include:
- WP:Fundraising statistics
- Facts and figures post on Hacker News (that info could also be transferred to a page here)
- Daily Dot article
(Hacker News post and Dot article were both written by mself.) --Andreas JN466 14:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- These links/articles seem like a good idea for further reading. I'd be opposed to directly inserting the image because of the increasing scrolling/space it would take, but am less opposed if there's a collapsed version of it. Feel free to directly edit the template or make specific suggestions. In general, I see this less as opening a large discussion and more minimizing the amount of time I/other editors take to quickly respond to angry/confused visitors. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've added a couple of the links – see what you think. --Andreas JN466 23:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Shushugah and Jayen466: I suggest reverting this edit, given that it is linking to external webpages, which are basically opinion pages that Jayen466 wrote. It borders on self promotion, and/or spam of external links. Plus the issue has moved on now, so this is a bit outdate. I suggested this at User_talk:Jayen466, but probably here is a better place to discuss it. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:24, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- If there should still be a need for this template this year, perhaps we could simply add a link to WP:Fundraising statistics instead and point out that the Wikimedia Foundation is in excellent financial health. Proposal: If you cannot afford it, no one wants you to donate. Wikipedia is not at risk of shutting down, and the Wikimedia Foundation, which hosts the Wikipedia platform and is asking for these donations, is in excellent financial health. --Andreas JN466 23:46, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Shushugah and Jayen466: I suggest reverting this edit, given that it is linking to external webpages, which are basically opinion pages that Jayen466 wrote. It borders on self promotion, and/or spam of external links. Plus the issue has moved on now, so this is a bit outdate. I suggested this at User_talk:Jayen466, but probably here is a better place to discuss it. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:24, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've added a couple of the links – see what you think. --Andreas JN466 23:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Using another template
[edit]Great news! {{Myprefs}} has been updated to include the Banners tab. I'm thinking of replacing
To hide the fundraising banners, you can create an account, go into your preferences, navigate to the "Banners" tab, and uncheck "Fundraising".
and replacing it with
To hide the fundraising banners, you can create an account, and uncheck Preferences → Banners →
Fundraising.
How does it look? Should there be a mention of clicking on the "Banners" link to be directly taken to the tab? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Tenryuu your replacement is good, and some might intuitively click "banners", others would appreciate the visual flow. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:22, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Shushugah: I've gone and made the change. It seems that the difference in font from {{myprefs}} is causing the line spacing to be uneven, so that's the only visual downside from what I can tell. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:59, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia ≠ WMF
[edit]Can we clarify the distinction between [English] Wikipedia and the WMF? The casual reader may see them as synonyms, and wonder why that single organisation has such an inconsistent approach to fund-raising. The template is long enough and I don't see anything that should be removed to make way for extra explanation. However, we could at least wikilink Wikimedia Foundation so readers can investigate for themselves. We could even link Wikipedia: although every reader knows roughly what it is, the nuances of how the different languages interact with each other and the WMF are far from obvious. Certes (talk) 11:54, 27 November 2022 (UTC)