additional page

Initially ToC looks wrong Why

because

it use = -->1 == -->2 ... ===== -->5

more equals chars for higher the number level and lower the hierachy level
reverse of what I tend to do in my droid edit etc text.txt files WikiP Edit should be level 2 sub head not Level 1

does not expect or like a starter header of a low level, it will get auto promoted for ToC.

Clips is L2 but should be L1 main Head

also note

Scratches

Shortest notes or links

WikiP Edit Notes

Uses markup. Is similar to that moz kb used rather than bbcode
br tag does work but iirc use of break template is preferred/mandated
also similar to joplin?

insert button bottom left includes some markup includes REM nowiki blockquote & code boxes

Novice Notes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction Introductory tutorials, with links to other info/tutorials. Shortcut Help:I
This is basic and more and more advanced help and tutorials exist. No point in listing those till all this is mastered.
same / similar info but as a vanilla html page [1]Shortcus WP:HOW or WP:CTW
Included option for tutorial with a new beta visual editor. But that has limitations, e.g. may not use on talk pages.
The wiki edit is option is still available if visual editor enabled.
At this point I see no point in changing over until it is more mature.
- Navigating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_navigating_Wikipedia/1 explains
  Advanced Search, Forums & NoticeBoard aka Village Pump, Shortcuts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut
  - Shortcuts not straightforward but save typing. Note Shortcuts to a page are usually listed in a box in the top right of that page.
    Shortcuts work in the search box and somehow as internal links e.g. on talk pages.
    Examples WP:FIRST WP:SIGNPOST
    Tend to be used in community and admin areas NOT on public facing areas, and never as an article name/title
    - WP: is an alias there are also pseudo namespace WP is equivalent to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:
      see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace#Pseudo-namespaces that has shortcut WP:PNS
    - Use In Browser The shortcut page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut can be accessed using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SC
    - Use As Internal Links just put double square brackets round the shortcut e.g. WP:+ WP:SIGNPOST WP:SC And remember double brackets available from insert option, although probably faster to type them.
  - Note search is case insensitive. And accepts Shortcuts special search https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search includes advanced search options and customisable search in various namespaces. WP:SIGNPOST in the search will go directly to the newspaper
- More help ##. ...
  - You can ask questions at either
    the Help desk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk (using or editing Wikipedia)
    or the Teahouse (help for newcomers). ... <snip>
    The Signpost https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost is Wikipedia's community-written newspaper, a good way to keep up with goings-on. ... ##. [Approximately monthly issues]
  - How To & Info pages see [2] Most of this is apparently from community individuals and may have good consensus but not be fully approved as official documentation. There is also historical and archived material available.
  - Downloadable pdf ##.A downloadable "Editing Wikipedia guide" {https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Editing_Wikipedia_brochure_EN.pdf} in PDF form written by the staff at the Wikimedia Foundation ##.
    downloaded but so far only to sdd2 covers most of the basics about 20pp
MAIN HELP PAGE with FAQs rather than introductory help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents try W:HELP:CONTENTS
POLICY & PROTOCOLS
- No Original Research WP:NOR The article also includes other some guidance on sources and writing rules with links to further info.

Formatting

Help
- dropdown from help from top bar on edit box the icon tool bar
- cheatsheet most common items https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Cheatsheet
- Full markup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext
links
- plain text urls work e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_and_Countryside_Act_1981
  They change in to blue underlined links with a following clickable link icon
- Link icon on edit box may be used for articles or external links
  - WikiP Articles Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 this is the title as on the page within double square brackets
  - Section Permalinks [3] may be obtained by using the permalinks option on the left-hand toolbar then right clicking the entry in the ToC. I presume the permalink is to the section at that particular time. It may need to be used in a talk discussion,
    but ordinarily I would just use the ToC to get the current one such as [4] note that does not contain &oldidnnnnnnn
  - Neat Numbered Links use single square brackets. [5] that also mentions diffs (Double square brackets on a shortcut)
    - dif full info see [6] shortcut H:DIFF
ordinary line break leave a blank line
soft breaks
Should use template {{break}} rather than <br> returns will usually show in edit view only.(does it break in article after an edit ?) br works and could use in my own notes, break template is easy and needs to be used anywhere else (except maybe in Talk areas) IF Style guidelines allow soft breaks.
Sub Pages roughly speaking allowed only in talk area for major edits, or in user space see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Subpages
nowiki Also available from editbox advanced top line option see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Nowiki
adding a section at the end Do NOT edit the last entry. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Section#Adding_a_section_at_the_end shortcut WP:+
It also has other info about sections including about ToC generation, type, use & positioning.
Section Editing & Edit Summaries It is suggested to add summaries even for minor edits. In new sections ensure the edit summary name between /* HERE */ is changed to match the new section name. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_summary#Section_editing the limit for text in a summary is about 500 char.

More Advanced

Include jargon & policy

Hat Notes These are the topmost disambiguation / or redirect notes see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hatnote WP:HN or WP:HAT
Transclusion that is using a page or part of one and including its content somewhere else rather complicated. Page may get moved but guess redirects would then be set up. See [7]

Clips

Longer articles or cuts

Will try a talk on the wildlife act it has a politics page
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics_of_the_United_Kingdom&action=submit and is itself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_and_Countryside_Act_1981

Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 Inaccurate Information

I have now posted this in the project and the article talk

TL:DR

I believe it is wrong & will rename a header to correct this unless anyone objects.
( Change From Offences to Offences within SSSIs )
- Or wishes to make a better comprehensive edit of the section, or article.
- That does not fix the article. But it makes it more or less accurate for what is then covered.
ERROR an article about SSSI s has been interpreted as if it always applies country wide.
I do not know where to post this.
Whether I should put this in the article discussion.
Or the temporary discussions on the projects page, so I will post in both.

My Interest / Lack Of

I do not have interest or knowledge of politics or legislation.
I do believe the article to be inaccurate, and would like to make it more accurate.

Inaccuracy

It is specifically the Offences section that I am talking about.
Although I suspect other sections, and then Offences NOT within an SSSI could be improved or added to.

Of the bullet points within the sub sections the main citation used is http://www.english-nature.org.uk/Special/sssi/images/EnforcementPolicyNotice.pdf
- I can not find that. I don't think it still exists.
  see https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/english-nature
  English Nature
  English Nature has closed
  English Nature promoted the conservation of wildlife, geology and wild places. It was merged with the Countryside Agency and Rural Development Service to form Natural England in 2006.
- The info regarding offences may well be correct for SSSI s
  but it no longer has a valid citation to support it.
- BUT this does NOT apply nation wide. Mostly the points are valid only within SSSIs
- Common sense may suggest linking to Government guidance documents.
  Is that allowed ?
  It will not necessarily be the original legislation, instead it will be public documents from Government departments.
  - I doubt these will be up to to required standard, and are not the best examples but they do back up my contention that something applying to a sssi (or for that matter a protected species) does not necessarily apply to the whole countryside, or every plant and animal.
    https://gallowaywildfoods.com/welcome-to-wild-food-heaven/foraging-and-the-law/
    http://www.environmentlaw.org.uk/rte.asp?id=217 <== note some legislation relates only to protected species.
  - As I understand it Removing wild plants may be allowed if not a protected species and not a SSSI. And certainly with the land owners permission fruit may be removed.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11584156
    https://britishlocalfood.com/foraging-british-law/
- also waters will be temporarily muddied by European Laws although we are now out of the Eu and in a transition period http://www.environmentlaw.org.uk/rte.asp?id=211
The only other citation used once in the current edit of the Offences section is relating to public rights of way http://www.southampton.gov.uk/s-environment/rightsofway/maintenance.aspx

Gandee2 (talk) 17:22, 14 August 2020 (UTC)