User:IbLeo/Sandbox 6
With all respect, I don't appreciate your slightly arrogant and haughty tone. And if by "at least we are getting somewhere" you mean that I am beginning to see things your way, I am afraid I have to disappoint you. While WP:NAME is obviously the governing policy for article naming, when it comes down to the exact spelling and capitalization of the words in the title, it is necessary to establish more explicit rules to deal with the fact that WP is surrounded by an incoherent world where the reliable sources we use for fact-checking are inconsistent between them (and sometimes directly wrong when it comes to foreign language titles). This has already been fully demonstrated in the examples given above and consequently acknowledged as a problem by many WikiProjects in the past, especially in the area of music. To overcome this issue, standards like WP:ALBUMCAPS have been established, but it is far from the only one, and you will find many similar rules, even as a part of our WP:MOS:
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)#Names (foreign language): "The letters, accents and diacritics in the original language should be preserved when referring to works by their original language title (provided that language uses the Latin alphabet), e.g. Schöpfungsmesse not Schopfungsmesse nor Schoepfungsmesse, Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune not Prelude a l'apres-midi d'un faune."
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style (France & French-related)#Works of art: "For consistency of French titles on the English Wikipedia, the consensus has been to follow the rules used on the French Wikipedia, which are those used by the French National publishing house (l'Imprimerie nationale) and put forth in its Lexique des règles typographiques en usage à l'Imprimerie nationale."
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs#Naming: "If the song is in a foreign language and titled using the Latin alphabet, then, unless the song is commonly known by a translated name in the English-speaking world, the original foreign title should be used. This may require using accented letters which are not used in English. Examples: "Ein bißchen Frieden", "Je n'ai que mon âme", "Fångad av en stormvind"."
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera#Operas: original language titles: "When listing operas by their original language title (provided that language uses the Latin alphabet), the letters, accents and diacritics in the original language should be preserved, e.g. Mosè in Egitto not Mose in Egitto, Götterdämmerung not Gotterdammerung nor Goetterdaemmerung, Weiße Rose not Weisse Rose, Les fêtes de Ramire not Les fetes de Ramire." Furthermore: "For titles in their original (non-English) language, the style used is "sentence capitalization". That is, the title is capitalized as it would be in a sentence in that language."
In other words, WP:ALBUMCAPS reflects an overall consensus by editors working on music articles here on WP, and if you question WP:ALBUMCAPS you question all the standards listed above. Honestly, if they are there it's because there is a very good reason for it and I profoundly believe that they makes perfectly sense, do not contradict WP:V or any other policy, and need to stay. – IbLeo(talk) 07:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)