User:MayThe2nd/Timeline of 2022 ordinal number edit war

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Disclaimer: Sorry for my English skill, if there are any grammatical errors, because English is not my native tongue.

I would really appreciate it if you read this till the end. Thank you.

This is the timeline of this incident from my point of view but you can prove it with all of the links that I provide.

You can check all the timestamps in references[1].

Timeline[edit]

Before this incident[edit]

Here is the first, second, and third edit by User:Iamike that relate to this incident (before this incident): Special:Diff/1090782691[2], Special:Diff/1090783017[3], and Special:Diff/1090783046[4]

After 3 edits above occurred in English wikipedia, I agreed with User:Iamike that it should be an ordinal number before the title of Governor of Bangkok, and likewise Prime Minister of Thailand.

Example: I think, in an infobox, it should be "20th Prime Minister of Thailand" instead of "Prime Minister of Thailand" and it should be "17th Governor of Bangkok" instead of "Governor of Bangkok"

The 1st wave of my edits[edit]

User:Iamike is the one who inspired me to add an ordinal number in an infobox.

I started to edit English wikipedia ariticles, adding an ordinal number, of Governor of Bangkok that User:Iamike have not edit yet. After that I continue to edit English wikipedia article of Prime Minister of Thailand.

Here is my first edit on this incident: Special:Diff/1090853039[5] Followed by my several edits and this is my last edit of the first wave: Special:Diff/1090989014[6]

That means my first wave of my edits occur during 19:25, 31 May 2022 to 15:12, 1 June 2022 (about 19 hrs and 47 mins).

Wave of revert by User:Doublebkkfc[edit]

About 9 hours after my last edit, User:Doublebkkfc started to revert all 3 edits by User:Iamike and all of my edits.

Here is the first revert by User:Doublebkkfc: Special:Diff/1091064793[7], followed by several reverts by this user and here is the last revert in the first wave of this user: Special:Diff/1091066143[8].

That means User:Doublebkkfc’s first wave occurs during 00:26 to 00:34, 2 June 2022 (about 12 mins).

The 2nd wave of my edits[edit]

About 17 hours later, I found out that all of my edits were reverted so I politely wrote a message[9] on User talk:Doublebkkfc because I just want to find a consensus in this situation.

After that I start to revert all of it back but what I did not known, in that time, is I’m in an edit war.

My second wave start here: Special:Diff/1091177219[10] followed by my several reverts and this is my last revert of my second wave: Special:Diff/1091187443[11]

That means my second wave occurs during 17:28 to 18:44, 2 June 2022 (about 1 hrs 16 mins).


I thought this is the end but it is not. Sadly, I am still in an edit war.

The 1st wave of revert by 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D[edit]

About 3 days after my last edit in this incident, this IP 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D starting to revert my edit here: Special:Diff/1091581462[12] followed by several reverts that using undo method with an edit summary as not need by this IP and here is last edit from this IP’s first wave: Special:Diff/1091582336[13].

That means this not need wave from this IP occurs during 04:46 to 04:54, 5 June 2022 (about 8 mins).

In addition, during this not need wave since it’s made by IP, not by user, so it has shown Non-autoconfirmed user rapidly reverting edits’ tag in most of edits in this wave.

The 3rd wave of my edits[edit]

After I found out that my edits were reverted, again. At first I thought It was done by User talk:Doublebkkfc but it was not, I found out that it was done by this IP 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D that just started to edit on English wikipedia (in Thai-football-related article page) in the same day as this IP started to revert my edit.

Alright, at that time I thought that maybe they are not the same user. They might be other people that just have the same idea because if they are the same people why won’t User talk:Doublebkkfc reply to my message on User talk:Doublebkkfc.

So I politely wrote the message[14] on User talk:2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D to find a consensus.

After that I just start my third wave of edit to revert back to what it was before. Here is my first edit on this wave: Special:Diff/1091602323[15] followed by my several edits and here is my last edits in this wave: Special:Diff/1091604635[16].

That means my third wave occur during 07:49 to 08:14, 5 June 2022 (about 25 mins)

Spotted by an admin: ToBeFree[edit]

Due to a lot of rapidly revert by 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D an admin ToBeFree has come to warn about edit war on this IP’s talk page and my user talk page.

I took an advice from an admin: ToBeFree that I should not revert it back by myself and if I have seen that someone revert again I will tell ToBeFree.

The 2nd wave of revert by 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D and A surprisingly seamless continuity[edit]

The 2nd wave of revert by this IP[edit]

On 5 June 2022, after I discussed with an admin:ToBeFree, this IP 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D has come back to start to revert my edit again

At 15:01, this IP has start to revert here: Special:Diff/1091652179[17] followed by several reverts that using undo method by this IP.

At 15:05, I was found out that this IP is reverting then I ping to ToBeFree.

At 15:08 this IP had been partially blocked due to edit warring by ToBeFree here: Special:Diff/1091653278[18].

So the last edit by this IP was happened At 15:07 here: Special:Diff/1091653219[19].

That means this wave from this IP occurs during 15:01 to 15:07, 5 June 2022 (about 6 mins).

There are 5 articles left[20] that this IP did not revert.

A surprisingly seamless continuity[edit]

On 5 June 2022 after this IP 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D had been partially blocked by an admin:ToBeFree, at 15:08, and then just only 2 minutes after User:Doublebkkfc has come to continue reverting on 5 articles that this IP has left.

Just only 2 minutes.

At 15:10 User:Doublebkkfc start to revert on Thawi Bunyaket, the first articles in 5 articles that this IP has left, here: Special:Diff/1091653609[21] followed by 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in this wave of revert by User:Doublebkkfc and the last revert in this wave on Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada here: Special:Diff/1091653686[22].

I think that User:Doublebkkfc has been able to continue to revert after this IP can’t, it was a surprisingly seamless continuity.

That’s too incredible to be a coincidence.

And that makes me think this is sockpuppetry by User:Doublebkkfc, logging out and using IP to edit instead but also revealing by using an account to continue reverting after IP wasn’t able to do.

The interested question if it is not a sockpuppetry:

Where have User:Doublebkkfc been?

Why User:Doublebkkfc is able to revert in 2 minutes?

Why User:Doublebkkfc know which articles should be reverted next?

6 reasons why I think IP 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D is User:Doublebkkfc’s sockpuppet[edit]

1. Patterns of revert are the same –– 2nd wave of revert by this IP and wave of revert by this User are the same pattern: starting with Governor of Bangkok articles Chadchart Sittipunt to Chamlong Srimuang and then Prime Minister of Thailand articles Prayut Chan-o-cha to Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada but during 2nd wave of revert by this IP User:ToBeFree has block this IP so this IP can revert on Prime Minister of Thailand articles to Pridi Banomyong and then this User coming in, only 2 minutes after, to continue to revert on Prime Minister of Thailand articles, 5 articles left, from Thawi Bunyaket to Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada.

2. A surprisingly seamless editing –– after IP was blocked by User:ToBeFree only 2 minutes after this User coming in to continue to revert an unfinished task from IP. It was too incredible to be a coincidence.

3. Both are using same method to revert –– User:ToBeFree and this IP are using same method undo method to revert the articles to be their preferred version.

4. Both are interested in Football related articles –– before this IP was reverted my edits this IP just edited in Football related articles such as AFC U-23 Asian Cup and BG Stadium surprisingly matches with edits from User:Doublebkkfc that have been done in Football related articles too such as Thai League 1 and BG Pathum United. Especially BG Stadium, that was edited by this IP, is the home of BG Pathum United, that was edited by User:Doublebkkfc.

5. This user knows this IP’s gender –– User:Doublebkkfc refer to this IP as him[23]. Why User:Doublebkkfc khows this IP’s gender? this IP can be male, female, or LGBTQIA+.

6. Geolocation of this IP is in Bangkok, Thailand –– The data from whois indicates that this IP is in Bangkok, Thailand surprisingly matches with bkk (acronym of Bangkok) in User:Doublebkkfc’s name.

Aftermath[edit]

On 6 June 2022 User:Iamike, the one who inspired me to add an ordinal number in an infobox, had done 7 reverts in Governor of Bangkok articles: 1a, 2a, 3a, 4a, 5a, 6a, and 7a.

On 7 June 2022 That 7 reverts were all reverted back by User:Doublebkkfc, again, here: 1b, 2b, 3b, 4b, 5b, 6b, and 7b.

Thank you a lot for reading this till the end.

  1. ^ like this
  2. ^ User:Iamike added ordinal number (17th) to Chadchart Sittipunt, newly elected Governor of Bangkok. (Timestamp: 09:56, 31 May 2022)
  3. ^ User:Iamike added ordinal number (16th) to Aswin Kwanmuang, Ex-Governor of Bangkok. (Timestamp: 09:59, 31 May 2022)
  4. ^ User:Iamike added ordinal number (15th) to Sukhumbhand Paribatra, Ex-Governor of Bangkok. (Timestamp: 09:56, 31 May 2022)
  5. ^ I added ordinal number (14th) to Apirak Kosayodhin, Ex-Governor of Bangkok. (Timestamp: 19:25, 31 May 2022)
  6. ^ I added ordinal number (1st) to Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada, 1st Prime Minister of Thailand. (Timestamp: 15:12, 1 June 2022)
  7. ^ User:Doublebkkfc was reverted on Chadchart Sittipunt (Timestamp: 00:26, 2 June 2022)
  8. ^ User:Doublebkkfc was reverted on Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada (Timestamp: 00:34, 2 June 2022)
  9. ^ “Hi, Doublebkkfc. I am here to oppose about all my edits, added ordinal number, that you revert. Because all of President of the United States wikipedia page have an ordinal number before their title such as Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. In addition all Thai wikipedia pages about Prime minister of Thailand and Governor of Bangkok have an ordinal number too. As you can see. So I am going to revert all your edits, removed ordinal number, back to mine Regards MayThe2nd (talk) 17:26, 2 June 2022 (UTC)”
  10. ^ I reverted back by using Manual revert method on Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada (Timestamp: 17:28, 2 June 2022)
  11. ^ I reverted back by using Manual revert method on Chadchart Sittipunt (Timestamp: 18:44, 2 June 2022)
  12. ^ This IP using undo method to revert my edits on Chamlong Srimuang with an edit summary: not need (Timestamp: 04:46, 5 June 2022)
  13. ^ This IP using undo method to revert my edits on Prayut Chan-o-cha with an edit summary: not need (Timestamp: 04:54, 5 June 2022)
  14. ^ Hi. I am here to oppose about all my edits, added ordinal number, that you revert. Because all of President of the United States wikipedia page have an ordinal number before their title such as Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. In addition all Thai wikipedia pages about Prime minister of Thailand and Governor of Bangkok have an ordinal number too. As you can see. So I am going to revert all your edits, removed ordinal number (not need), back to my revision. Regards MayThe2nd (talk) 07:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  15. ^ using Manual revert method on Chamlong Srimuang (Timestamp: 07:49, 5 June 2022) with an edit summary: “revert because all of President of the United States wikipedia page have an ordinal number before their title such as Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. In addition all Thai wikipedia pages about Prime minister of Thailand and Governor of Bangkok have an ordinal number too.”
  16. ^ using Manual revert method on Prayut Chan-o-cha (Timestamp: 08:14, 5 June 2022) with edit summary: “revert because all of President of the United States wikipedia page have an ordinal number before their title such as Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. In addition all Thai wikipedia pages about Prime minister of Thailand and Governor of Bangkok have an ordinal number too.”
  17. ^ This IP using undo method to revert my edits on Chadchart Sittipunt with an edit summary: Reference from UK Prime Minister Infobox (Timestamp: 15:01, 5 June 2022)
  18. ^ This IP had been partially blocked from editing certain areas of the encyclopedia to prevent further disruption due to edit warring by ToBeFree (Timestamp: 15:08, 5 June 2022)
  19. ^ This IP using undo method to revert my edits on Pridi Banomyong with an edit summary: Reference from UK Prime Minister Infobox (Timestamp: 15:07, 5 June 2022)
  20. ^ Thawi Bunyaket, Khuang Aphaiwong, Plaek Phibunsongkhram, Phraya Phahonphonphayuhasena, and Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada
  21. ^ User:Doublebkkfc using undo method to revert on Thawi Bunyaket (Timestamp: 15:10, 5 June 2022)
  22. ^ User:Doublebkkfc using undo method to revert on Phraya Manopakorn Nitithada (Timestamp: 15:10, 5 June 2022)
  23. ^ Special:Diff/1091745772 when I was asked User:Doublebkkfc about this IP 2001:FB1:5C:A161:4CB1:9A9A:CF93:680D (Timestamp: 03:31, 6 June 2022)
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