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Historical rankings of presidents of the United States[edit]

Further Reading decisions
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RJensen "poor reason" to drop "The criteria is not 'notability'" Book ranking big city mayors within scope
Superb Owl drop - I flagged with: [excessive citations] 2+ citations/year (20+ citations for 10 year-old publication, 40+ for 20 yo, etc.) I flagged all under 2+ citations/yr with: [importance?] and listed the citations/yr count in the description (may have to use source editing mode to see) Only sources exactly covering this topic (presidential rankings). I flagged those that differed significantly with: [relevant?]
  1. Nicholas Curt (2012)
  2. Murray + Blessing (1994)
  3. Thomas A. Bailey (1966)
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Independent State Legislature Theory[edit]

The theory has been described as being 'fringe' and opponents fear it would enable election subversion by concentrating power in gerrymandered state legislatures or the conservative US Supreme Court which would weaken and threaten American democracy.

Moore v. Harper was proponents of a gerrymander pushing this theory in order to implement rules without approval of the State Supreme Court.

District lines for geographically-based legislatures of the U.S. already disadvantage one party because of wasted votes resulting in an efficiency gap, which can widen further with unchecked gerrymandering.[1][improper synthesis?] These geographic efficiency gaps do not exist in statewide races like those for governor, state supreme court justice, or for ballot initiatives which are more representative of the will of the voters in that state.[original research?]

Political equality[edit]

How many constitutions have political equality as an ideal?

Discuss sortition? deliberative democracy? or keep very high level?



Governance Archaeology[edit]

Governance archaeology seeks to understand the myriad combinations of ways in which people have governed themselves throughout time.[2] A goal in this endeavor is to better understand the full range of options available to modern humans and, to the extent possible, some of the opportunities and pitfalls of different governance characteristics.[3][2]

Glossary of Terms for the Collective Governance Database[edit]

Communities Units of governance and shared culture
Institutions Specific institutional structures within a given community
Mechanisms Within institutions, patterns of governance practice (for example, jury, council, voting)
Culture Within communities, patterns of shared values and norms (for example, solidarity, ritual, supernatural belief)
Time Situates the community in history
Place Situates the community geographically
Size Approximate number of members in the community at the specified time and place

See also[edit]

Political system[edit]

Political system

Room for discussion of Democracy vs. Republic?

Note rarity of democratic nations going to war with each other compared to less democratic governments.

Concentration of political power*[citation needed]
System of government Most power is allocated by: Most power is held by: Modern governments Examples
Democracy Sortition Everyone equally (universal suffrage) None None
Hybrid None Athens, Venice, Florence
Republic Elections Aristocrats, Upper class, Corporations, etc. see: Democracy Index, V-Dem, etc.?
Hybrid
Autocracy Might (e.g. coup) Small inner circle (Dictator, Monarch, General(s), One-party state leadership)
Disputed

*WCAG 2.1 Issues...find consensus on content and another way to display Graphic(s) brainstorm: visualization of power concentration

Citizens Assembly[edit]

Power entrusted to sortition
Randomly-selected body Time frame Independent Power? Scope Set by: Permanent? Highest Ratio of all Decision-makers Chosen By Sortition vs. Election
Juries in the U.S. 1789?- Yes Judges Yes
Citizens' assemblies 1970's?- No Politicians?* No*
Athens Yes Sortition? Yes 9:1 sortition?
Venice Yes Sortition? Yes
Florence Yes Sortition? Yes

*except in regions in Belgium

Improve sourcing:[edit]

Sample size determination literature also provides an important contribution when determining how many participants are needed to give sufficient confidence that their decisions are very likely representative of the population. More participants means more confidence, but with greatly diminishing returns.[citation needed]

a Citizens' assembly are "like couples counseling for a nation."[4]

Hélène Landemore describes Citizens' assemblies as places where "experts are on tap, but they are not on top."[5]

First permanent citizens' assembly, know as the people's senate in the German-speaking region of Belgium.[6]

Tocqueville was very positive about citizens' juries and very negative about the campaigning leading up to an election.[7]

Hannah Arendt interest in participatory democracy[8]

Dr. Oliver Escobar and Dr. Stephen Elstub. https://www.newdemocracy.com.au/2017/05/08/forms-of-mini-publics/ - website doesn't have a wikipedia page, but links to useful info. They edited a 2019 book on deliberative democracy that's inaccessible by normal means: https://www.elgaronline.com/display/edcoll/9781786433855/9781786433855.00007.xml?tab_body=pdf-copy1

Cost/benefit

Sortition[edit]

Talk Page[edit]

Per WP:Criticism ("In most cases separate sections devoted to criticism, controversies, or the like should be avoided in an article because these sections call undue attention to negative viewpoints.") I am integrating the the arguments and the most notable sources unless we think this article should be an exception.

Comparison to Elections[edit]

Suffrage[edit]

Discussions of suffrage (who gets to participate) tends to be similar, though sortition might enable further enfranchisement of younger people and noncitizens since they will have adequate time to study the particular issue and the fear of them being less knowledgeable than others would be largely alleviated.

Outcomes[edit]

Many (how many?) examples of policies recommended by advisory policy juries/citizens' assemblies get rejected by elected officials or by referenda.

While the reasons for each failure depend on many unique factors, the gap between what juries recommend and what elections allow may be evidence that sortition provides very different policy outcomes than one would get by voting-based systems like elected representatives and referenda.

If the difference is inherent to elections vs. sortition, then the question becomes, which system would provide better policy outcomes?

Cost[edit]

Republic[edit]

A republic is a system of government where people choose representatives through elections to make decisions in the public's interest.[9][10][11] In contrast, a democracy might rely primarily on sortition (e.g. juries) to make decisions by a representative sample of the public while an autocracy concentrates power in very few hands.

Democracy vs. Republic debate[edit]

While the term democracy has been used interchangeably with the term republic by some, others have made sharp distinctions between the two for millennia. "Montesquieu, founder of the modern constitutional state, repeated in his The Spirit of the Laws of 1748 the insight that Aristotle had expressed two millennia earlier, ‘Voting by lot is in the nature of democracy; voting by choice is in the nature of aristocracy.’"[12] Additional critics of elections include Rousseau, Robespierre, and Marat, who said of the new French Republic, "‘What use is it to us, that we have broken the aristocracy of the nobles, if that is replaced by the aristocracy of the rich?’"[13]


While democracy commonly refers to elections in modern times, it is far less common to see the term 'Republic' refer to the process of sortition, even if early hybrid examples used the word Republic in their title.


"The French Revolution, like the American, did not dislodge the aristocracy to replace it with a democracy but rather dislodged a hereditary aristocracy to replace it with an elected aristocracy, ‘une aristocratie élective’, to use Rousseau’s term. Robespierre even called it ‘une aristocratie représentative’...It derived its legitimacy no longer from God, soil or birth but from another relic of the aristocratic era, elections...The fiery revolutionary Jean-Paul Marat denounced the aristocratisation of the popular revolt and took up the cause of the more than eighteen million French people who were not given a vote. ‘What use is it to us,’ he wrote, ‘that we have broken the aristocracy of the nobles, if that is replaced by the aristocracy of the rich?’"[14]

"Democracy is not government by the best in our society, because such a thing is called an aristocracy, elected or not. That is one option, but then let’s change here and now what we call it. Democracy, by contrast, flourishes precisely by allowing a diversity of voices to be heard. It’s all about having an equal say, an equal right to determine what political action is taken."[15]

"The American and French revolutionaries thought state business too important to be left to the people and by opting for an elected aristocracy they gave priority to efficiency over legitimacy. Nowadays we are paying the price for that. Discontent is rife and the legitimacy of the electoral-representative system is being noisily called into question."[16]

"Montesquieu, founder of the modern constitutional state, repeated in his The Spirit of the Laws of 1748 the insight that Aristotle had expressed two millennia earlier, ‘Voting by lot is in the nature of democracy; voting by choice is in the nature of aristocracy.’ The elite character of elections was clear to him from the start. In contrast, he claimed, ‘the casting of lots is a way of electing that distresses no one; it leaves to each citizen a reasonable expectation of serving his country.'...We find similar ideas in the famous Encyclopaedia compiled by Diderot and d’Alembert in the 1750s. In the entry headed ‘aristocracy’ we read that the drawing of lots was not suitable for the aristocracy (‘Suffrage must not be given by lot; only inconveniences would result from it’). It was better to appoint a senate. ‘In that case, one might say that aristocracy is in a way, in the senate, democracy in the body of nobles, and that the people are nothing.’ The authors make it clear that the aristocracy has a responsibility for the people and in the entry for democracy they largely adopt Montesquieu’s arguments."[17]

"The two most important books about the political philosophy of the eighteenth century agree that sortition is more democratic than election and that a combination of the two methods is beneficial to society."[18]

Bernard Manin summarizes the situation as, "'at the same time that the founding fathers were declaring the equality of all citizens, they decided without the slightest hesitation to establish, on both sides of the Atlantic, the unqualified dominion of a method of selection long deemed to be aristocratic.'"[18]

Unicameralism vs. bicameralism[edit]

Switches from unicameralism to bicameralism[edit]

Switches from bicameralism to unicameralism[edit]

Main article: List of abolished upper houses

Choices made by new constitutions[edit]

Books[edit]

  • Nicholas Baldwin and Donald Shell, eds., Second Chambers (New York: Routledge, 2016)
  • Arend Liphart, Patterns of Democracy: Government Forms and Performance in Thirty-Six Countries, 2nd ed. (New Haven, CT:Yale University Press, 2012)
  • Samuel C. Patterson and Anthony Mughan, Senates: Bicameralism in the Contemporary World (Columbus: Ohio State University Press, 1999)
  1. ^ Mordfin, Robin I. (2017-09-25). "Proving Partisan Gerrymandering with the Efficiency Gap". University of Chicago Law School. Retrieved 2023-10-20.
  2. ^ a b Carugati, Federica; Schneider, Nathan (February 28, 2023). "Governance Archaeology: Research as Ancestry". Daedalus. 152 (1): 245–257 – via MIT Press Direct.
  3. ^ KQED Forum.Toward a Moral Political Economy May 9, 2023. 15:11-18:57.
  4. ^ David Van Reybrouck. How to Fix Democracy (podcast). 14:13. November 24, 2021.
  5. ^ David Van Reybrouck. How to Fix Democracy (podcast). 12:11. November 24, 2021.
  6. ^ David Van Reybrouck. How to Fix Democracy (podcast). 16:55. November 24, 2021.
  7. ^ David Van Reybrouck. How to Fix Democracy (podcast). 18:50. November 24, 2021.
  8. ^ David Van Reybrouck. How to Fix Democracy (podcast). 20:03. November 24, 2021.
  9. ^ "Republic | Definition of Republic by the Oxford English Dictionary". Oxford English Dictionary. Retrieved 2022-05-10. A state in which power rests with the people or their representatives; specifically a state without a monarchy. Also: a government, or system of government, of such a state; a period of government of this type. The term is often (especially in the 18th and 19th centuries) taken to imply a state with a democratic or representative constitution and without a hereditary nobility, but more recently it has also been used of autocratic or dictatorial states not ruled by a monarch. It is now chiefly used to denote any non-monarchical state headed by an elected or appointed president.
  10. ^ "Definition of Republic". Merriam-Webster Dictionary. Retrieved 2017-02-18. a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch
  11. ^ Pettit, P. (2019). Republicanism. In E. N. Zalta (Ed.), The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2019 ed.). Retrieved February 23, 2023, from https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/republicanism/
  12. ^ Van Reybrouck, David. Against Elections (p. 75). Seven Stories Press. 2016.
  13. ^ Van Reybrouck, David. Against Elections (p. 85). Seven Stories Press. 2016.
  14. ^ Van Reybrouck, David. Against Elections (p. 85). Seven Stories Press. 2016.
  15. ^ Van Reybrouck, David. Against Elections (p. 133). Seven Stories Press.
  16. ^ Van Reybrouck, David. Against Elections (p. 129). Seven Stories Press. 2016.
  17. ^ Van Reybrouck, David. Against Elections (p. 74). Seven Stories Press. 2016.
  18. ^ a b Van Reybrouck, David. Against Elections (p. 75). Seven Stories Press. 2016.