User talk:Иван Богданов~enwiki/Archive 1
OK, let me make this clear: If you continue what you are doing without responding to me, you will be blocked for vandalism. It's still vandalism if you immediately clean it up. --Golbez (talk) 18:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- I understand you're new, but to just remove comments from your talk page without responding to them is rude. As for the sandbox, it's at Wikipedia:Sandbox. Just edit it and have fun with it. --Golbez (talk) 20:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Seriously, please stop that. Do not continue to vandalize wikipedia - even if for moments at a time - for your own purposes. You are more than welcome to set up your own wiki to do this, but this is very annoying to people who watch articles for vandalism. --Golbez (talk) 20:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Non-constructive edits[edit]
Hi, Eric. Removing entire citations from articles, like you did to the List of sultans of the Ottoman Empire, is not a constructive edit, and is even tantamount to vandalism, even though you reinstered the citations minutes later. Please refrain from such behaviour in the future. If you wish to experiment, either create your own sandbox by clicking on this link, or click on "Show preview" instead of "Save page" when editing an article. Thanks. --BomBom (talk) 23:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Heads of staate of Gabon[edit]
Um, why are you reverting to the inferior version? ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 23:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- User:Therequiembellishere likes my version, so why do you continue to revert? ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 23:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Turning that into a redirect was a pretty bold move -- & per "be bold, but if reverted -- discuss", I'm reverting. Let's discuss this change. -- llywrch (talk) 03:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Okay. To begin, the material here has been on one page for quite some time -- which is why I was surprised to find you turned it into a redirect. What are your reasons for changing this? (PS -- Feel free to answer here, if you prefer.) -- llywrch (talk) 15:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also, would you mind not reverting that edit until we have reached some kind of conclusion? That would demonstrate good faith on your part -- & I would appreciate it. -- llywrch (talk) 16:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- What does the activities of the rulers (either by birth or otherwise) of Ethiopia have to do with putting them in the same list? Look, I'm asking this in a civil manner & I don't have that strong of an opinion either way, but unless you can present your reasoning in a manner that should convince someone who is opposed to this change, it's not going to fly -- even if that is the best solution for other reasons you don't mention. (If these reasons aren't provided, they can't be considered or discussed.) As I wrote above, I was surprised by this change & simply wanted to see why you thought this was the best solution: stating that those two people shouldn't appear on the same page is not a good reason, then flying off the handle because I wanted to know why you made this change doesn't persuade me that you do, in fact, have a convincing reason. Please try again. -- llywrch (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not repeatedly reverting your edits; I asked you to stop & discuss this, yet you went ahead & reverted me before we even began to talk. And that you wrote in your first response "Is that so big, complicated, giant problem? Next, what kind of conclusion you want? Maybe referendum among other users? I please you to stop reverting very resonable edits", then stating things in ALL CAPITALS is not incivility, but it leads me to suspect that you don't care about my opinion in this matter, & that you are unable to work with other people -- a skill you need to have to be a successful contributor to Wikipedia. These are impressions you need to consider when interacting with other people on Wikipedia: a lot of silly & embarrassing often start over a simple misunderstanding. There is also the matter that you need to consider that this is one of the principal list articles for Ethiopian history, & converting a major article like into a redirect without any previous discussion -- or even an announcement that you are considering doing this -- is going result in significant push-back, often far less civilly than this interaction has been. Had you simply right of the bat that you felt dividing this list was best because there should be one for Emperors & one for civil officials at the beginning, I'd have let it go. That would have been the mature thing to do. Instead we've muddled about ineffectively, with me asking a reasonable question & you acting like I've come along & trashed your garden. It's taken both of us too long to get to some kind of useful communication. I suggest that you look for a mentor for help with learning how to successfully interact with other people on Wikipedia. Good luck & good bye. -- llywrch (talk) 21:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll be blunt: I have no interest in discussing this matter further with you. Do not post to my Talk page again; I will revert it unread. And if I believe you are harassing me or stalking my edits, I will report you. -- llywrch (talk) 17:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- What does the activities of the rulers (either by birth or otherwise) of Ethiopia have to do with putting them in the same list? Look, I'm asking this in a civil manner & I don't have that strong of an opinion either way, but unless you can present your reasoning in a manner that should convince someone who is opposed to this change, it's not going to fly -- even if that is the best solution for other reasons you don't mention. (If these reasons aren't provided, they can't be considered or discussed.) As I wrote above, I was surprised by this change & simply wanted to see why you thought this was the best solution: stating that those two people shouldn't appear on the same page is not a good reason, then flying off the handle because I wanted to know why you made this change doesn't persuade me that you do, in fact, have a convincing reason. Please try again. -- llywrch (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also, would you mind not reverting that edit until we have reached some kind of conclusion? That would demonstrate good faith on your part -- & I would appreciate it. -- llywrch (talk) 16:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
De-escalate[edit]
Please don't unarchive someone else's talk page. Llywrch has made it clear you aren't welcome there, so unarchiving it like that can only possibly have the result of exacerbating the situation. Please confine any further posts to a relevant article talk page, and he can choose to engage you there, or step away, whichever he prefers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- List of Emperors of Ethiopia is a Cut and paste move, which doesn't give proper attribution to the editors that worked on Rulers and heads of state of Ethiopia. Can I suggest that you change this back to a redirect for now? If you gain consensus on the talk page, then splitting the article (which I think is what you want to do) can be done fairly easily, and with proper attribution. I also note that the way you phrased your comment on Talk:Rulers and heads of state of Ethiopia makes you look bad, and people are less likely to take you seriously; see my comments on my talk page. Why not just make the request, and leave Llywrch's name out of it completely? --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)