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Proposed deletion of Jianpi Wan

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The article Jianpi Wan has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No evidence of notability.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Tim Song (talk) 09:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


> To address the issue of Notability, an additional source from the Publishing House of Shanghai University of Traditional Chinese Medicine has been included in the References, as shown below:

Jianpi Wan ( Simplified Chinese:健脾丸) is a blackish-brown pill used in Traditional Chinese medicine to "invigorate the spleen function and improve the appetite". [1] It tastes slightly sweet and bitter. It is used where there is "weakness of the spleen and stomach marked by epigastric and abdominal distension, anorexia and loose bowels". The binding agent is honey. Each pill weighs about 9 grams.

The original formula was first published in Zhengzhi Zhunsheng (Standards of Diagnosis and Treatment). [2] It is known as the "Pill for Invigorating the Spleen".

Chinese classic herbal formula

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Name Chinese (S) Grams
Radix Codonopsis 党参 200
Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae (stir-baked) 白术 (炒) 300
Pericarpium Citri Reticulatae 陈皮 200
Fructus Aurantii Immaturus (stir-baked) 枳实 (炒) 200
Fructus Crataegi (stir-baked) 山楂 (炒) 150
Fructus Hordei Germinatus (stir-baked) 麦芽 (炒) 200

See also

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References

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  1. ^ State Pharmacopoeia Commission of the PRC (2005). "Pharmacopoeia of The People's Republic of China (Volume I)". Chemical Industry Press. ISBN 7117069821.
  2. ^ Zuo Yanfu, Zhu Zhongbao, Huang Yuezhong, Tao Jinweng, Li Zhaoguo. "Science of Prescriptions", Publishing House of Shanghai University of Traditional Chinese Medicine. 2002. ISBN 7810106503. page 320.

(talk) 00:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Jianpi Wan, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jianpi Wan. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Tim Song (talk) 09:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Responses on deletion page:

Jianpi Wan

   * The primary indication why this article is notable is that it has been notable enough to be published in full in a number of reputable sources, including those given in the references, namely:
1. . State Pharmacopoeia Commission of the PRC (2005). "Pharmacopoeia of The People's Republic of China (Volume I)". Chemical Industry Press. ISBN 7117069821.
2. Zuo Yanfu, Zhu Zhongbao, Huang Yuezhong, Tao Jinweng, Li Zhaoguo. "Science of Prescriptions", Publishing House of Shanghai University of Traditional Chinese Medicine. 2002. ISBN 7810106503. page 320.
The secondary indication why this article is notable can be obtained when we do a Google search on "Jianpi Wan". Such a search yields thousands of hits.
IMHO, an article cannot be proved to be un-notable just because thousands of its kind exist. For example, "dog" and "apple" are notable, even though there are thousands of animals and thousands of fruits. 弟 (talk) 02:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
   * Weak keep. The information is reasonable for an encyclopedia to include, and it is described in appropriate sources, so it meets the general notability guideline. The article could be merged with similar ones, I suppose, but Chinese classic herbal formulas is the only article I can find that would be a reasonable target, and it really is not reasonable to bloat that article with descriptions of each and every formula. In the end, I think that a separate article is the right solution. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:20, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
   * Note: Why the canvassing/campaigning-esque invites by the article creator?: [1], [2]. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
         o Thanks for the note on canvassing/campaigning-esque. I've written to canvass, not to campaign (in the Wikipedia sense of the term). If you think that is campaigning, i'll shorten the canvassing note to make it acceptable.
         o In addition, the invite serves to notify those who have contributed to the area of alternative medicine, and thus may have an interest in the discussions, given that a number of articles in this area have been deleted. 弟 (talk) 02:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
               + To me, "Now this article makes the formula available in both languages, so that a deeper understanding can be achieved." indicates bias—i.e., implies that the article should be kept. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
                     # Point taken. Thank you for pointing it out, as it helps me to set my boundaries. 弟 (talk) 00:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
   * Keep. The article is referenced, and FWIW, referenced concoctions can in the future all have their own articles. We do have articles on aspirin, morphine, and heroin for instance. Ngchen (talk) 18:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
       Yes, but we also have articles on the individual herbs used in the concoction. The more apt analogy, IMHO, would be having articles on Tylenol PM (it's now a redirect). I don't think inclusion in a pharmacoepia is sufficient to confer notability. The second source seems to be a textbook on TCM prescriptions. From the ref it seems like a rather brief mention. As such, I think it falls on the relatively trivial side of the line. Tim Song (talk) 20:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
           When a formula is important enough to be published in a national pharmacopoeia indicates that it is not published in the pharmacopoeia alone. It is published in full in the second reference, and other books, such as "Chinese Herbal Medicine: Formulas & Strategies" by Dan Bensky and Randall Barolet (ISBN 0939616106), and "Formulas of Traditional Chinese Medicine" (方剂学 fāngjì xué) by Long Zhixian (General Chief Editor), Li Qingye (Chief Editor of Chinese), Liu Zhanwen (Chief Editor of English), Academy Press (学苑出版社 xuéyuàn chūbǎnshè), Beijing University of Traditional Medicine. 2005. ISBN 7507712702. 弟 (talk) 01:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
   * Keep. I think many of the formulas on Chinese classic herbal formula are noteworthy enough to have their own pages. I agree with WhatamIdoing , having separate pages for the formulas is probably the best idea. I think if the formula was borrowed by Japan as a kampo formula, then it most likely is guaranteed to be noteworthy enough. Jianpi Wan isn't a Japanese kampo formula. So then I'd look to where it was first published. It was published in the Standards of Diagnosis and Treatment (證治準繩 Zhèngzhì Zhǔnshéng) by Wáng Kěntáng (王肯堂) in 1602. That text is on some lists as a Classical Medical Text. I figure if it was first used in 1602 and is still in use, then it's noteworthy enough. Dreamingclouds (talk) 23:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
   * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 20:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
   * Keep. Any medicine of even the weakest effect should be notable. Benjwong (talk) 03:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Health Canada

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The following formulas, including Jianpi Wan, are "Licensed Natural Health Products" in Canada, and are found in the website of Health Canada, http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ and http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/index-eng.php

Licence Number Product Name Licence Holder
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80007854 Ba Zhen Yi Mu Wan Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd.
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80006099 Bai Zi Yang Xin Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80006102 Baifeng Wan Classical Remedia Ltd.
80008422 Bao He Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80010845 Bao He Wan; Stomach Harmonizing Pill Classical Remedia Ltd.
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80001539 Gui Pi Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
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80003654 Jia Wei Xiao Yao Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80007145 Jia Wei Xiao Yao Wan Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd.
80003880 Jian Pi Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80008922 Jian Pi Wan; Stomachic Pill Classical Remedia Ltd.
80001263 Jin Kui Shen Qi Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
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80007999 Jing Zhui Tong Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
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80007510 Liangfu Wan Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd.
80000856 Liu Wei Di Huang Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80002271 Liu Wei Di Huang Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80005888 Liu Wei Di Huang Wan Classical Remedia Ltd.
80007125 Liu Wei Di Huang Wan Classical Remedia Ltd.
80008786 Long Dan Xie Gan Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80006256 Long Dan Xie Gan Wan; Dragon Gall And Liver Cleanser Pills Classical Remedia Ltd.
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80008324 Nu Ke Ba Zhen Wan; Bazhen Wan; Women Eight Treasures Pills Classical Remedia Ltd.
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80006925 Qi Ju Di Huang Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80008959 Qi Ju Di Huang Wan; Lycii-Chrysanthemum Earth King Pills Classical Remedia Ltd.
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80007280 Qing Fei Yi Huo Wan Wing Quon Enterprises Ltd.
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80011224 Shen Tong Zhu Yu Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
80001603 Sheng Mai Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
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80001383 Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
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80002348 Zi Sheng Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd
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80005266 Zuo Jin Wan T.C. Unicorn Ltd

References http://webprod.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/search-recherche.do?lang=eng http://webprod.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/info.do?lang=eng&licence=80008922 http://webprod.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/info.do?lang=eng&licence=80003880 http://en.tcm-china.info/materia/patent/patent/75805.shtml (Beijing Digital Museum of TCM)

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