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Happy editing! Davide King (talk) 23:12, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This, more specifically the false equivalence of "[q]uibling about sources is what Holocaust deniers are famous for [sic]", is a personal attack, straw man, non sequitur, ad hominem, etc. Ironically, the concept of Communist genocide is used to trivalise the Holocaust ("Introduction" to The Holocaust/Genocide Template in Eastern Europe and "Unacademic academics: Holocaust deniers and trivializers in post-Communist Romania") and push the double genocide theory.

Either way, none of your comments addressed the argument the article is giving undue weight to a few author or non-experts who proposed the concept, that it is filled with original research and synthesis, and violates NPOV and RS/AC by acting like this is a mainstream or widely accepted view, theory, and/or concept within academia and scholarship (even Conquest "did not write about mass killings under Communist regimes, he wrote about the Red terror, the Holodomor and the Great purge in the Soviet Union. He treated these as separate subjects and did not develop a theory of mass killings under Communist regimes. We should not put together a group of events and create an article when no one else has." And "[n]either [The Black Book of Communism and Rummel] are directly about mass killings under Communist regimes: the first one was about the evils of Communism in general, while the second was about mass killings by governments in general. There are numerous good sources for each of the events discussed in this article, but none that connect the killings in the various countries as having a common cause."), or as "an uncontroversial academic theory."

If you have actual, logical reasoning for why the article does not violate any of this, then it should be easy to do so rather than spamming about how bad Communism was and how many deaths happened under it, which no one denies on the talk page. Your argument boils down to this, that since killings happened under Communist regime indeed happened, then we must cover them, even though there may not be a literature about it that ties all them together as the current article does and this does not address the aforementioned policies and guidelines violations; and that "[t]he purpose of an encyclopedia is to educate and inform, in this case it is the MOST important education and information, that concerning the danger of genocide, or in this case, the euphemism 'mass killing'", but that is not what Wikipedia is about and what Wikipedia is not, and it still does not answer the violations of original research, synthesis and NPOV, which are "non-negotiable, and the principles upon which it is based cannot be superseded by other policies or guidelines, nor by editor consensus." Davide King (talk) 23:13, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]