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August 2021[edit]

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Come on ma dude, that is not a personal attack. He's putting false information in prostitution in Afghanistan and citing The Pakistan Frontier, which is run by a racist Pakistani claiming that 7,000 Afghan citizens (young females) are used in India as prostitutes. I did research on the internet and learned that this is propaganda and FAKE NEWS found on twitter, [1] which cites this unreliable news report. That report explicitly states that the prostitutes are all Indians and Hindus.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 22:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
STOP LYING!! THE REPORT SAYS THAT ONE WOMAN WAS A SUSPECTED AFGHAN NATIONAL!! If you're only here to try to distort Wikipedia you should find another website to edit. I don't care whether this impugns your honor; you cannot provide evidence to falsify the report, so you're resorting to lies!! Buckshot06 (talk) 08:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Be polite. When someone possesses an Indian identity card (Aadhaar), it means that individual is Indian from India.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 08:26, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're still trying to deceive the readers of this site. That woman was the senior woman/owner; of the twelve arrested women one [was] was a alleged Afghan national. The police suspected the Indian identity was fraudulent, and were going to follow up. Also, you just tried to say above that the article said 'prostitutes are all Indians and Hindus.' Those words DO NOT APPEAR on that page!! Stop lying!! Buckshot06 (talk) 08:43, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This incident took place in 2017. Go bring evidence that she was convicted of forgery. If an Indian police suspects forgery we the world suppose to find it as forgery? Are you not aware of the famous Indian scammers? [2] [3] [4] [5] All prostitutes in India are obviously Indians. The Indian news report states this:

Suspected Afghan national, arrested during a raid on hotel, presents Aadhaar as ID proof - Although the woman goes by an Indian name', police became suspicious of her nationality when she spoke with a strong foreign accent. Police are probing the antecedents of a woman they suspect to be an Afghan national but has an Aadhaar card, a unique identification card issued by the Indian government only to its citizens, in her name. The woman was caught on Sunday night when the police bust a prostitution ring operating in Sector 39. Sixteen persons, including 12 women, one of whom is allegedly an Afghan national, were arrested in the raid at a guest house. The woman produced an Aadhaar card when the police asked for an identity proof. Although the woman goes by an Indian name and claims to be married to an Indian, the police became suspicious of her nationality when she spoke with a strong foreign accent. When questioned about her nationality, the woman insisted she was an Indian, but the other arrested women said she was from Afghanistan. The Aadhaar card of the arrested woman states her name as Jaspreet Kaur, wife of Parminder Singh, a resident of Mehrauli in South Delhi. Police said they got suspicious by her mannerisms and facial features. A case was registered at the Sadar police station in this regard. The matter is being investigated by the police....

— Hindustan Times
Jaspreet Kaur and Parminder Singh are indisputably Indian (Sikhs/Hindus/Punjabis) names. What does all of this has to do with prostitution in Afghanistan? That information should be in prostitution in India.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 09:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"All prostitutes in India are obviously Indians." Absolutely wrong. See Prostitution in India#Foreign prostitutes. This is a suspected Afghan national, running a suspected prostitution ring. Police are dubious of her Indian identity documents - she could have quite possibly had a false name. Frontier source says that thousands of Afghan women were trafficked to India for prostitution. This story just corroborates the Syed Nazakat story saying that Afghans are involved in Indian prostitution. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:57, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
India is not like USA, Canada, UK, Australia, UAE, etc., where people from all over the world have residency. India is a nation of over 1.3 billion Indians. The 657,800 prostitutes in India obviously have to be Indian prostitutes. The non-Indian prostitutes in India are very few. In order to prove your case you have to cite a reliable source. Those are fake news made up by Pakistanis. Today fake news is more than real news. If there were any prostitutes from Afghanistan in India, this would have been in official media, especially in the media of Afghanistan. The only thing I found was that two Uzbek women from Uzbekistan were working as prostitutes in India. [6] [7]--39.41.92.164 (talk) 11:48, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw this where you wrote "this impugns his honor". Why would you say that about me?--39.41.92.164 (talk) 12:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite. I said it was *my guess* that you were a regional user who felt that the idea of Afghan women prostitutes in India impugned his honor. I guessed this because of your adamant saying that Afghan prostitutes in India, if real, would have been widely discussed in Afghanistan, which is not borne out by the widespread stigma the practice has in Afghanistan - such sex work is seen as intensely shameful - and your opposition to Pakistani sources. Of course, it was only a guess.. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I only reject The Pakistan Frontier because it plainly doesn't qualify as a reliable source. [8] [9] A single individual could be living anywhere in the world and make such a website to report propaganda and fake news. You're a long-established Wikipedia user so you should know this. About its 7,000 prostitutes report, to me that is like reading a headline saying there are 7,000 Israeli orthodox Jewish women or Saudi Muslim women involved in prostitution in India. About the small number of Afghans residing as refugees in India, they are ordinary respectable Afghans and would never get involved in prostitution. They are only there so they can be resettled in Western countries. They know very well about how the immigration laws work. Most are financially supported by family and relatives who are already in Western country. Those who don't know the Afghan affairs think they're in India due to poverty but India has much more poverty than Afghanistan.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 03:13, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. John B123 (talk) 21:32, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of responding here like a normal civilized human you went to report me like an oppressor. If you know that The Pakistani Frontier is clearly an unreliable source for Wikipedia purposes then why are you wasting your time trying to edit war over a petty issue? I want to see reliable sources and you can't find any so you lose.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 22:46, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I will be carefully and repeatedly "reporting you like an oppressor" for each and every of your infringement of Wikipedia's rules for at least six months to come. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:48, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I like you, you entertain me.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 09:27, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Grand. If you continue to attempt to distort sources on Wikipedia, you will in time probably face administrator action, including being WP:BLOCKED from editing. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:57, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's you who is doing that, and it's you who will be punished.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 11:48, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not distorting sources. You are constantly trying to say that a particular source, Pakistani Frontier, is 'fake,' sometimes because 'it is written by Pakistanis.' You have not tried to justify this by anything else that because Pakistanis created it. You have not tried to justify this at WP:Reliable Sources Noticeboard or anywhere else. This constant attack simply because of the origin of the source does not fit our rules. Stop the attacks on a source merely because of its origin. If you continue breaking our rules, you may face administrator action. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
See my above reply.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 03:26, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of taking shots at each other, why don't you move this discussion about sources to the article talk page where other editors can participate? Liz Read! Talk! 03:23, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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