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February 2010
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May 2010
[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Perfect Couples, please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This is particularly important when adding or changing any facts or figures and helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources for information about how to cite sources and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Can you please provide a source for the last names to the characters? It seems a little dubious since some of them are married. Logical Fuzz (talk) 22:14, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
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Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Scream 4. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Mike Allen 02:26, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Scream 4. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Mike Allen 00:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Please do not edit war over this. I hate reporting users because it takes up too much time, but if necessary I will. Ashley Greene was offered the role of Jill, the role was declined by her and the role went to Emma Roberts. No source has said that she has taken another role. When and if a source does provide that information then we can place her back in the cast. That Omg! article has no date, and other sources have pretty much said that "Robberts is in and Greene is out". Thank you. Mike Allen 01:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Filmographies
[edit]Please stop adding films to filmographies that have not gone into an active phase of production, specifically filming. Films in pre-production and in development are not listed in filmographies. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Heidi Montag
[edit]Regarding your edit summary here, telling other editors not to remove content simply because you don't want it removed violates WP:OWN. Unless an editor is blatantly vandalizing an article (you not agreeing with content being removed is not vandalism), all editors are free to edit and re-edit content, especially if it doesn't adhere to Wikipedia policy. If you really feel it necessary, go ahead and contact one of the many Wikipedia administrators about poorly sourced content on a WP:BLP being removed. You can also start a thread on the BLP noticeboard but I highly doubt you'll be happy with answers you get from any administrator you contact or whomever answers your complaint on the noticeboard. Have at it though. As for your "utterly stupid excuse" remark, that "excuse" is actually Wikipedia's reliable source policy. Following the reliable source policy is not optional. If you want to include this content, it is your responsibility to find a source that Wikipedia considers reliable to support it. Gossip blogs/sites such as celebuzz.com are not considered a reliable source. It doesn't matter if you think it is - the community has decided they are not reliable and cannot be used. If you want to debate that, look into changing community consensus regarding the usage of gossip sites as sources. Further, content that is likely to be challenged (such as the content you've been attempting to add) always needs to be sourced. It doesn't matter if it's been "confirmed" elsewhere. Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability. Pinkadelica♣ 16:19, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
File source and copyright licensing problem with File:CharlieBanks.jpg
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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:JamesFORDOLTL.jpg
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June 2010
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Please stop. If you continue to upload media files lacking copyright information,as you did with File:RexBalsom.jpg, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you are unsure of the correct copyright template, please refer to the list of image copyright tags or ask at the copyright question page. Eeekster (talk) 08:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
90210 - season 3.
[edit]Please do not revert my edits. It should be noted that it was announced that it was either of the three. Jayy008 (talk) 16:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
- I just did and realised where it's from. That source can't be used, it's from a fan site and fan sites are dis-allowed on Wikipedia, unfortunately, as sometimes they do provide accurate information. Please do not add the information back unless it's from a reliable media source or obviously The CW itself. Jayy008 (talk) 17:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I have reverted your edit on Naomi Clark. It's up for discussion about the image and can't be changed until a full consensus is reached (Wikipedia rules). Get involved on this page Jayy008 (talk) 17:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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- stop contacting me. why do you always follow everything i do? freak
- Stop uploading copyrighted images and using a fake licenses. These messages are automated, so I did not come here to add them. Mike Allen 22:26, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
go away
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September 2010
[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Robert Ford (One Life to Live). When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. — TAnthonyTalk 22:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Kelly Cramer Photo
[edit]Hey 5teevee5, I was wondering if you can change the image for Kelly Cramer like you did for Matthew Buchanan. You now, the white background that all ABC Daytime stars had? I really like Kelly's and it would look nice, probably a head-to-shoulder version and not a lower body version maybe. I don't have an account and was wondering if you can do that. Thanks a lot!
Here is the link of the picture that you can use if you do it:http://abc.go.com/shows/one-life-to-live/photo-details/kelly-cramer/555129/517098
Again, thanks a lot. 149.4.207.72 (talk) 14:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Changing and choosing images
[edit]Hello, 5teevee5. Could you discuss changing images, like either on the article talk pages or at WP:SOAPS, before making such mass changes? For example, most of the images for One Life to Live originally went by "the opening in the show format" because that had/has general consensus. Also, if you insist on changing images, make sure they are good images. I reverted your image for Todd Manning because it mostly shows the side of his face (and I prefer the one there now, as it contrasts well to the Roger Howarth as Todd Manning image), and I reverted your image for Téa Delgado because she looks sad (or upset in some other way) in that picture. Likewise, your Starr Manning image portrays Starr as upset about something, which is why I reverted you on that one. Your image for Blair Cramer, similar to your Todd Manning image, only shows the side of the character's face, but I didn't revert you there.
Regarding licensing: When it is a screenshot, you should use a screenshot license, not a promotional photograph license. Flyer22 (talk) 23:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree on the pictures of Todd, Starr and Blair. Though not on Tea's. Just because you think she looks "sad", doesn't mean she was. 5teevee5 (talk) 23:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree. Whether she looks sad or not, she clearly looks upset or deeply concerned about something. It is not a relaxed facial expression at all. I fail to see why this image is better than the previous one. If you would rather I bring other editors in on the matter, I will. But in the meantime, I highly suggest you restore the previous image or at least add one where she is making a relaxed facial expression or smiling. If the previous image is not restored or no alternate image is added, I will look for one, upload it...and add it. Hopefully, if it comes to that, you will approve of my selection. Flyer22 (talk) 02:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I alerted a few editors to this discussion, including the uploader of the previous Téa Delgado image. All are editors who edit the One Life to Live articles; I have hardly had contact with any of them (which should make their weighing in neutral), but I do see them around. WP:SOAPS is too inactive to alert editors there. Anyway, we'll see if we get their opinions on this. Flyer22 (talk) 02:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've asked two more editors (ones I don't remember having any interaction with) to give their opinions on this matter, since the previous ones I asked, like yourself, are not involved in heavy editing here at Wikipedia and clearly are not going to state a thing here. These other two are more active with heavy editing and are more likely to weigh in. If they do not, I will do as I stated before -- replace your image with one of my choosing. I will not be getting into a revert war with you over this. But I will not be sitting back and just letting you have your way because you want the images you want. A good portion of your images are still wrongly licensed, for example. Besides correct licensing, there are more important things to be done regarding soap opera character articles, such as making sure they are not just plot summaries, as I did with the Téa Delgado article and others. Too many of you fellow soap opera editors are worried about images and reverting semi-vandals instead of real-word heavy-editing, which is frustrating, to say the least, and is why so many Wikipedia soap opera articles are being deleted...and will continue to be. Flyer22 (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I do think the new image of Téa Delgado looks like she's worried about something. I just think there's no need to upload new images when perfectly good ones already exist. The old one was just fine, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. –anemoneprojectors– 20:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, those are my thoughts. I don't understand this constant changing of images. It's like a lot of the editors feel that the main images should be changed every few months.
- Well, I do think the new image of Téa Delgado looks like she's worried about something. I just think there's no need to upload new images when perfectly good ones already exist. The old one was just fine, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. –anemoneprojectors– 20:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've asked two more editors (ones I don't remember having any interaction with) to give their opinions on this matter, since the previous ones I asked, like yourself, are not involved in heavy editing here at Wikipedia and clearly are not going to state a thing here. These other two are more active with heavy editing and are more likely to weigh in. If they do not, I will do as I stated before -- replace your image with one of my choosing. I will not be getting into a revert war with you over this. But I will not be sitting back and just letting you have your way because you want the images you want. A good portion of your images are still wrongly licensed, for example. Besides correct licensing, there are more important things to be done regarding soap opera character articles, such as making sure they are not just plot summaries, as I did with the Téa Delgado article and others. Too many of you fellow soap opera editors are worried about images and reverting semi-vandals instead of real-word heavy-editing, which is frustrating, to say the least, and is why so many Wikipedia soap opera articles are being deleted...and will continue to be. Flyer22 (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I alerted a few editors to this discussion, including the uploader of the previous Téa Delgado image. All are editors who edit the One Life to Live articles; I have hardly had contact with any of them (which should make their weighing in neutral), but I do see them around. WP:SOAPS is too inactive to alert editors there. Anyway, we'll see if we get their opinions on this. Flyer22 (talk) 02:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree. Whether she looks sad or not, she clearly looks upset or deeply concerned about something. It is not a relaxed facial expression at all. I fail to see why this image is better than the previous one. If you would rather I bring other editors in on the matter, I will. But in the meantime, I highly suggest you restore the previous image or at least add one where she is making a relaxed facial expression or smiling. If the previous image is not restored or no alternate image is added, I will look for one, upload it...and add it. Hopefully, if it comes to that, you will approve of my selection. Flyer22 (talk) 02:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for weighing in. Flyer22 (talk) 20:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Neither image should be used for Tea, the rationale is not good enough. However, 5teevee shouldn't have uploaded a new one. It didn't add anything new. So stop reverting it now and let the old one stay. They are both promo pics to aren't they? A simple screenshot can replace these better. (Isn't the picture from the serial's official website any how? If so you're lying on the rationale, it didn't come as a promo for media and press use.) I'd also like to say, the storyline section is too long, cut it down by half. :)RAIN*the*ONE BAM 20:17, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- 5teevee5's image seems to be a screenshot to me, Raintheone. But the one you reverted to is of course a promotional shot. Right now, it has the wrong license. It needs a promotional shot licensing, which I will change it to in a moment. But you're saying, either way, the licensing still isn't good enough because it's a promotional shot instead of a screenshot? I'm definitely aware that we are allowed to get away with more, use-wise, when it comes to screenshots.
- As for the plot summary, yes, I understand how it is considered too long, especially the 2008 - present section (which is tagged as such). But it is often a difficult task to decide how to best present soap opera plot summaries, since soap operas (the daytime ones) tend to have many more episodes than primetime television shows and thus the plot summaries for their characters are going to be more detailed. I tried to make the plot summary as short as I could without cutting out any significant details. The section grew when the 2008 section was created and editors started adding stuff to it. Flyer22 (talk) 20:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've found because you can say more and edit the screenshot more, it manages to withstand a deletion nom easier. Anyway, as for plot, you just have to be ruthless. Quite a few of the British soap air five times a week. We just have to say it in the simplest form possible. I'll help if you like.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 01:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't mind you helping with trimming down the plot, though I would prefer you start with the 2008 - present section; starting with that section would also give me an example of your trimming style. In either case, if anything too significant is cut, I could always add it back in the simplest way possible. Flyer22 (talk) 07:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've found because you can say more and edit the screenshot more, it manages to withstand a deletion nom easier. Anyway, as for plot, you just have to be ruthless. Quite a few of the British soap air five times a week. We just have to say it in the simplest form possible. I'll help if you like.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 01:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- As for the plot summary, yes, I understand how it is considered too long, especially the 2008 - present section (which is tagged as such). But it is often a difficult task to decide how to best present soap opera plot summaries, since soap operas (the daytime ones) tend to have many more episodes than primetime television shows and thus the plot summaries for their characters are going to be more detailed. I tried to make the plot summary as short as I could without cutting out any significant details. The section grew when the 2008 section was created and editors started adding stuff to it. Flyer22 (talk) 20:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I don't personally like some of your image choices, but I can live with most. I'm more curious what your rationale was for changing them at all? I was never a huge fan of the opening credits shots but most of the ones you're choosing are practically profiles. What about just character portraits from the ABC site or something in certain cases? — TAnthonyTalk 03:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
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Adding Some More Pictures For OLTL Articles
[edit]Hey 5teevee5, I really like all of the pictures you uploaded for the OLTL articles and was wondering if you could upload more for the men like Brody, Rex, Ford, James, Nate, Cristian, Joey, John, and Cutter all being shirtless. Hey, that is partially what soaps are known for, right? I think that would provide more substance for the characters and would look really good! Thanks and please do so! 149.4.42.21 (talk) 17:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
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