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AfC notification: Draft:Turkpidya has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Turkpidya. Thanks! ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:17, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the comment! I have add the source and the citation for the section. Abdalla Bayoumi (talk) 04:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Turkpidya has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Turkpidya. Thanks! LittlePuppers (talk) 05:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Turkpidya (November 26)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by NotAGenious was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Your submission reads promotional. Things like "The platform serves as a rich source of information" and "The team focuses on producing high-quality content in various fields" have to be removed. See WP:NPOV. Also, there is no need for a list of languages in the prose, these can be added to the infobox to the language= parameter.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Turkpidya and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

NotAGenious (talk) 07:40, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abdalla Bayoumi! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! NotAGenious (talk) 07:40, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Turkpidya (November 27)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ratnahastin was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Turkpidya and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Ratnahastin (talk) 13:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

November 2023[edit]

Hello Abdalla Bayoumi. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:Turkpidya, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Abdalla Bayoumi. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Abdalla Bayoumi|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DoubleGrazing,

Thank you for your message and for ensuring compliance with Wikipedia’s guidelines. I would like to clarify that I am not being paid by anyone, for my contributions to the Draft:Turkpidya or any other edits on Wikipedia.

I am committed to upholding the principles of neutrality and verifiability in all my contributions.

I appreciate the importance of transparency and the concerns about paid advocacy on Wikipedia. Please rest assured that my editing activities are in line with Wikipedia’s policies and the spirit of volunteer-based contribution.

Thank you for addressing this concern, and I hope this clarification is satisfactory.

Best regards,

User:Abdalla Bayoumi Mas12514 (talk) 17:23, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DoubleGrazing,

I would like to clarify the use of my two Wikipedia accounts, Abdalla Bayoumi and Mas12514, and how they align with Wikipedia's guidelines for legitimate alternative accounts. Abdalla Bayoumi is my primary account for general editing and article contributions. Mas12514, on the other hand, is utilized mainly for administrative tasks such as monitoring changes and participating in community discussions. This account setup helps me manage and organize the high volume of email notifications and updates I receive from Wikipedia, allowing me to keep these communications separate from my primary email to avoid distractions in other areas of my life.

This approach is intended to maintain focus and efficiency in my contributions to Wikipedia. It is in no way an attempt to mislead or violate Wikipedia's policies regarding the use of multiple accounts.

To address any concerns about conflict of interest, I wish to clarify that as Abdalla Bayoumi, I am not receiving any form of payment for my contributions to Wikipedia, including the editing and creation of the Draft:Turkpidya page. My involvement is driven by a personal commitment to enriching the platform and adhering to its principles and guidelines.

Best regards, Abdalla Bayoumi (talk) 17:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The sources give this website's creator as Abdullah Habib. Source #2 (TRT World) states that Habib's real or full name is "Abdalla Khaled Ahmed Mohamed Bayoumi" (emphasis added). Your username is Abdalla Bayoumi. Given this rather obvious connection, would you like to elaborate on the matter? Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:19, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DoubleGrazing,

I acknowledge the connection between my Wikipedia username and the individual mentioned in the TRT World article – I am Abdalla Khaled Ahmed Mohamed Bayoumi. My contributions to Draft:Turkpidya stem from personal interest and knowledge, not financial gain. I have not received any payment from Turkpidya.

While I recognize this may appear as a potential conflict of interest, I am not engaged in paid editing. Hence, using the

This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by {{{employer}}} for their contributions to Wikipedia.

tag does not seem applicable. I am open to alternative ways of disclosing this connection to satisfy Wikipedia's guidelines and maintain transparency.

Your guidance on this matter would be appreciated.

Best regards, Abdalla Bayoumi (talk) 18:37, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is anything "potential" about your COI, that much is pretty clear. Whether or not this comes under our paid-editing rules is perhaps debatable; per WP:PE, I would say it does:

An editor has a financial conflict of interest when they write about a topic with which they have a close financial relationship. This includes being an owner, employee, contractor, investor or other stakeholder.

In practical terms, whether you declare generic COI or the specific paid-editing COI, either way the outcome is the same, meaning that you cannot publish this article directly yourself but must instead put it through the AfC review process (which you're doing already anyway), and once it is published (assuming) you cannot make substantive edits to it but must make edit request via the talk page.

If it were me, I would declare paid, just to be on the safe side. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:47, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your guidance. I wasn't aware that it's possible to declare a conflict of interest (COI) without it necessarily being related to paid editing. Understanding this, I agree that declaring a COI aligns better with my situation and Wikipedia's policies.

Could you please guide me on the correct procedure for declaring a COI in this context? I want to ensure I follow the proper steps to maintain transparency and adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines.

Your assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated.

Best regards, Abdalla Bayoumi (talk) 18:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will post a new message below with instructions for disclosing general COI. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, for your guidance, I have declared a COI in the talk page. Abdalla Bayoumi (talk) 19:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Hello, Abdalla Bayoumi. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Turkpidya, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:55, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Turkpidya (November 29)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Lightoil was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The draft is still too overtly promotional for me, for example: By 2023, Turkpidya reached over 5 million visitors from 190 countries, offering content on Turkey's economy, culture, and tourism. In addition to its informational role, Turkpidya has made an impact on the Turkish economy. In 2021, the platform generated a commercial volume and added value to the Turkish economy that exceeded 57 million Turkish Lira. serves only to promote this encyclopedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Turkpidya and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Lightoil (talk) 02:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Turkpidya (November 30)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Eternal Shadow was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Tone is improved, still has issues such as the first section about the development having WP:PEACOCK terms.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Turkpidya and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Eternal Shadow Talk 06:22, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Turkpidya has been accepted[edit]

Turkpidya, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

Sionk (talk) 19:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]