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HEY, need some help!

User Wereith has deleted thousands of images per a misinterpretation of WIKI policy. They have edited my user boxes and EVERYBODY ELSES because I used a wiki approved seal of a WV county??? When I checked their contributions, all they have done is remove thousands of images, today. WTF is going on here?Coal town guy (talk) 21:00, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I assume you mean File:Seal of Raleigh County, West Virginia.png, which is in fact tagged as fair-use, so it can't be used in userspace. Acroterion (talk) 21:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
OK, thats fine, but this person has deleted thousands of images, using AWB........are we to assume they nailed it every time? I am cool if they did that. BUT, raw math tells me, I dont think so...Coal town guy (talk) 21:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hard to tell. Note that they didn't delete anything, they just removed the links. In general it's nicer to ask folks to remove them themselves rather than just swoop in and nuke it. Acroterion (talk) 21:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
THAT is precisely my contention. I am waaay cool with fair use. Matter of fact, some of the images for some WV articles are MY images I granted fair use to so that they could be used on Wikipedia, which is swell. My ONLY pet peeve is, I am waaay OK with a policy, I am NOT ok with a person doing a set of actions and their "description" is a policy link. Thats an edict, and THAT PISSES ME OFF. You and ALMOST every admin on Wikpedia have done an incredible job and I mean that, at saying, oh by the way, here is why. Thats cool. That is a welcoming transmission of knowledge. The edict stuff, thats bullcrap in the most major form.Coal town guy (talk) 21:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually policy is fairly clear and is nonnegotiable, would you have preferred that I also quote the policy that I linked to? Restrictions on location. Non-free content is allowed only in articles (not disambiguation pages), and only in article namespace, Every single file that I have been removing has been non-free, feel free to review my edits to confirm that, but I can assure you that my actions where just to bring pages into compliance with policy, please also see WP:OWN, you do not own any page on wikipedia. Werieth (talk) 22:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Policy is clear and non-negotiable, but it's usually kinder to educate other editors and to leave a note do explain what you did and why. Acroterion (talk) 00:28, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Ah I see, I shall reply on your talk page...Coal town guy (talk) 22:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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Beast Coast Movement article

The Beast Coast Movement is a viable and legitimate hip-hop movement currently gaining steam. I understand the deletion of the article due to lack of substance, but the problem stems from my lack of experience and knowledge in creating a Wiki page. Any help around this movement would be greatly appreciated because I firmly believe this requires a page on Wikipedia.

scrape.it

I understand. Then tell me what you think of other articles promoting software is. If that's not promotion then I'm curious to know how you are able to clear identify my case vs the array of other wikipedia articles linking directly to a for-profit website where as mine goes to github. Please help me understand because overall experience on wikipedia has been highly unpleasant, no communication or counter arguments are allowed, solely based on the discretion of individuals without any credentials or knowledge in the area. I highly think this is undemocratic process and there's nothing stopping me from believing that the article was deleted because wikipedia moderators with commercial interests in the existing for profit, non opensource solutions.

It's very simple. Don't use Wikipedia for promotion, no matter how benevolent the cause. No technical judgment is implied or made. Accusing those who enforce non-promotional policy of bad faith is unlikely to help your cause. Acroterion (talk) 16:08, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Did I say you were motivated by a possible commercial interest? No I did not, I just said that there's simply no way of knowing that you are not working for any of the other companies and simply trying to squelch new upcoming projects. How is the scrape.it article different from any other wikipedia in that category linking directly to their sales page? How do you feel about commercial software openly promoted on wikipedia and successfully able to evade it? What excuse will you come up next?

If you keep making personal attacks and accusations of bad faith, you can expect to be ignored. Acroterion (talk) 16:20, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Tell me this is not promotion?

Tell me what makes this article a non promotion? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrapy

What's different about it, it links directly to the original company?

So when somebody that's not me writes an article and links to the website it's okay?

Help me understand, I'm just trying to follow your logic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Depta99 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it promotional, but it's got no evidence of notability and no sourcing. Some Google searching indicates that it has some coverage, but overall, it's nothing I'd cite as an example of a good article. Note that the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument carries no weight: we are concerned with your article and your intentions with respect to Wikipedia. You might also wish to review the notability guidelines: has your project received press coverage, which could be used to provide the sourcing and evidence of notability that all Wikipedia article must have?Acroterion (talk) 16:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes it does as a matter of fact and maybe if the article was still up there I could link other sites talking about Scrape.it

request

merhaba, please remove urdu wiki links from european islam by country articles, these are wrong. Thanks in advance i tried but..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by عرفان ارشد (talk • contribs) 08:53, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I think you mean the Wikidata links - what is the correct link? It might be better to talk to an editor who reads Urdu for this. Acroterion (talk) 13:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

User talk:206.45.41.185

Hi Acroterion, please revoke talk page access, tq. Arctic Kangaroo 14:02, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

And, ironically, they're edit-warring at every opportunity over something that apparently happened a month ago. Talkpage access removed. Acroterion (talk) 14:03, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Rangeblock needed. Arctic Kangaroo 14:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Eric Loomis

Hi, could you delete that? 98book (talk · contribs) re-created the page. Thanks, —Mikemoral♪♫ 01:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Deleted and blocked for 48 hours to make the point a bit more clear. Acroterion (talk) 01:58, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for handling that. —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:04, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Whitley (artist) deletion

Hi, just came across the Whitley song "More than Life" on Pandora and was looking for a discography. Surprised to see there was a page that is now deleted, I've never heard an artist that didn't have a wikipedia page. Any thoughts on un-deleting it? Can't see what was there so I have no idea on completeness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whitley_%28singer%29&action=edit&redlink=1

BR Nathan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wren337 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

This is all there was: "Whitley is an Australian singer. He has made 2 albums: The Submarine and Go Forth Find Mammoth." Obviously, there's no bar to re-creation, so have at it if you want. Acroterion (talk) 20:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Spotted Horse Wyoming

Local lore states it was named after a Native American Leader. I am disposed to say yes. BUT, thanks for the pic. I am dam proud to have started this article. By the way, if you ever bicycle to there from Gillete, be prepared to piss syrup for about a week. EGAD, the heat is killerCoal town guy (talk) 23:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't too hot when we were there in 2007, but it was a handy place to stop and stretch our legs - nothing much for 50 miles in either direction! They were gearing up for the overflow from Sturgis, a mere 150 miles away - you can just see the "Welcome Bikers" banner. Acroterion (talk) 01:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry to be abrupt, but I was confused when my article about my cousin was taken down, please could you explain to me why? and I am in no way in disrespect or disrepute over this, but more confused to such, Guido Espinoza — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuidoDuke (talk • contribs) 22:00, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Please review The guidelines for notability. Small parts, even in West End productions, would not qualify. Biographies must be sourced, particularly where minors are concerned, and sources must support the assertion of notability. Wikipedia isn't a place to publicize individuals who are not already notable. Acroterion (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks for letting me know i will wait a bit longer till he is knowledgeable to others :) Guido Espinoza — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuidoDuke (talk • contribs) 22:21, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Your input is requested

Greetings, Acroterion/Archive Q2 2013! If we have not met, I'm AutomaticStrikeout. I've come here to ask you to take part in the survey at User:AutomaticStrikeout/Are admins interested in a RfB?. I am trying to gauge the general level of interest that administrators have in running for cratship, as well as pinpoint the factors that affect that interest level. Your input will be appreciated. Happy editing, AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 01:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

One of the best choices I can think of for crat is Acroterion...but I dare say that I wouldn't want him to seek more flags as it would leave him less time to article writing.--MONGO 01:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but I have no interest at all in being a 'crat. Others who enjoy that sort of thing are welcome to it. Acroterion (talk) 02:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

WV County templates, HELP

Hey, need some help. Someone had edited the County template for Monroe County. They had 

| collapse_state = {{{collapse_state|{{{1|}}}}

. I edited it back to 

| collapse_state = {{{collapse_state|{{{1|}}}}}}

. Before this, the entire Monroe county template was gone, as was the list of all Monroe County data from each location. I cant tell if it was a bot or not, but whoever sent the bot need to be more careful here.Coal town guy (talk) 02:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

The Banner (talk · contribs) appears to have made a test edit without actually checking to see if the edit was beneficial. I think you fixed it. Acroterion (talk) 03:16, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
I just checked the other counties, its OK for nowCoal town guy (talk) 03:21, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Utah, CA nrhps etc

I've been coming across and admiring your past work developing NRHP material in Utah and California counties. You've really made info about a lot of the western U.S. remote NRHP places accessible to the world, by those contributions. :) I'm adding some more to List of RHPs in Inyo and others, by the way.

Please see discussion Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington County, Utah#merge/reconfigure with separate Zion NRHP list?. I think that moving the Zion NRHP list back into the Washington County Utah list could make sense, tho keeping it as a separate section. --doncram 16:35, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I've responded at the discussion page; seems like a redirect to Washington County with some expanded description could be feasible. Acroterion (talk) 01:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

User talk:206.45.84.7

FYI, the IP has twice now ([1], [2]) removed the Shared IP notice, contrary to WP:BLANKING and WP:DRC. I did reference those in my initial addition of that notice ([3]), and WP:BLANKING again in my restoral ([4]). Perhaps a short range-block is in order, if the removal of the Shared IP notice continues? Cheers, JoeSperrazza (talk) 01:53, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

I saw that: in general I prefer not to argue about that sort of thing unless it's useful that the host be identified, and I don't consider it a block-worthy offense. Contrary to policy, yes, but not in and of itself worth blocking. Note that reversion of such a notice is not exempted under 3RR. Acroterion (talk) 02:05, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I have no problem with a notice if it were to happen that this is a shared IP.. but it's not, until I choose to discard of it. What's suspicious is your contribution history, you are only going after me for some reason, out of all the IPs in the world. And I never even heard of you. How can I do wrong to someone I never encountered, I have no clue. What's your motive joe. 206.45.84.7 (talk) 02:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Notice joe is going after me or IPs I have used for spam notices, but not doing it to the other IPs he comes across, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:77.68.143.62&oldid=548683022. I suppose he's bored and decides to pick a random target to troll, by agitating with unnecessary templates. 206.45.84.7 (talk) 02:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I've granted you some grace in this case, so I'd strongly advise you to drop it. Acroterion (talk) 02:44, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Serial killer infobox

Why do you want to preserve redirects from "Infobox serial killer" to "Infobox murderer"? Indirect jumps cost time and memory overhead, putting an unnecessary burden on Wikipedia's servers. Moreover, the casual reader doesn't see the names of templates; they don't impart any useful information. If the subject of the article is a serial killer, it should be so stated in plain text in the article.71.92.247.84 (talk) 01:13, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Then say so in the edit summary. How are other editors supposed to know that it was a redirect? I didn't, but I'm reverting my changes now that I understand what you were doing. Acroterion (talk) 01:18, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: "Please explain the apparently coordinated edits with Illini1234"

Hello, The owner of the bus company Suburban Express primarily serves UIUC Students, who call themselves Illini. He recently has been sueing or threatening to sue a number of posters on Reddit.

I created a new Wikipedia account because I didn't wish to be sued (even though my edits are factual and referenced).

I believe that Illini1234 is another student who had the same feelings. He may have seen my username when creating his. We are not the same person (And I'm willing to personally verify my identity in non-public ways). I did see his edit and move my reference, but it was not "coordinated" in any particular way.

For what it's worth, I believe that the controversy section should be there. Would you help me correctly word it such that the given references support it? Or could you explain how I would better reference it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IlliniStudent (talk • contribs) 14:56, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. You should work out your proposed edits on the article talkpage, and must stick to published reliable sources as defined by WP:V and WP:RS. Opinion columns and personal analysis of court records are not reliable sources. So far, the only reliable source that has been presented is the Daily Illini article (not the opinion column). It would be best if there were multiple independent sources, since a single article in the university newspaper falls short of supporting the notability of the incidents and issues. Please remember that Wikipedia is not a social media platform, and that regardless of what's happening on Reddit or Twitter, you can't present your own analysis of events or court records. A defamatory statement about a driver has already been removed from the article talkpage - see WP:BLP. Please remember that WIkipedia isn't a platform for shaming individuals or companies, nor is it appropriate as a host for ephemera. I'd suggest waiting to see if the issue is significant in six months' time, or if it is covered in major newspapers - see WP:NOTNEWS. See the comments of other contributors at Talk:Suburban Express. Acroterion (talk) 15:10, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Something is not right

I do not like the behavior of a user and they appear to be letting many other editors know their dislike.....with, a gusto. User Greg Bard???? Just seems, waaaay above the norm. Many thanksCoal town guy (talk) 17:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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delete iq offices page

what was wrong with it? It is a place that exists and should be on wikipedia. Can you please explain the take down.

Best,

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidgeneratecreative (talk • contribs) 22:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 22:03, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Please don't delete the article titled "Kristina Dickerson"

The article is about my girlfriend who is really having the worst of times and this will cheer her up. No one will use this name and if you want after two days I can delete it but please leave it up for one day. That is all I'm asking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheInsaneDoctor (talk • contribs) 01:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

You might consider flowers and a nice dinner as an alternate approach. Please don't put it back in article space: it's safe in your userspace for now. Acroterion (talk) 01:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Ameristraila

This sir, is not a Hoax. Reddit has created a sort of... alliance, and in the last two days it has gained already 10,000 members and growing quickly. While it might just be in good fun, it is actually pretty inspiring. Please see here reddit.com/r/ameristralia.

Thank you for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.206.222 (talk) 03:06, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Unless it gets significant notice in major third-party publications, it's not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Acroterion (talk) 03:09, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Do you hate freedom? 58.179.52.215 (talk) 06:41, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Deleting a non-notable joke page is not tantamount to hating freedom.--Mr Fink (talk) 13:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Ameristralia page

Please provide a clear, well-defined reason for deleting the Wikipedia page related to Ameristralia. We are a laid back bunch, and only wish to be (if only unofficially) recognized. Take care! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.69.243.232 (talk) 06:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia documents pre-existing notability: it does not create it. See the general notability guidelines. Any topic that receives significant notice in multiple third-party publications with a reputation for fact-checking may be included. You should also review WP:MADEUP, which applies here on a larger scale. Acroterion (talk) 11:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Would you consider redirecting Ameristralia to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93United_States_relations? 98.110.172.156 (talk) 14:49, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
No: a Reddit meme has no bearing on US-AU relations. Acroterion (talk) 14:51, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Especially since there is no evidence that "Ameristralia" has had even the least effect on US-AU relations.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Category warring....No, I am not kidding

At the agreement of another editor Catalyst 321, I come to you with a less than pleasant situation and BEG for your help. We have a singular user Greg Bard who has a vendetta, or a bug that died up his ass, your choice. EVERYONE else has pretty much tried to say, hey local law is a function of local government, county. BUT OH HELL NO. This has devolved and become a real fecal tsunami with many editors and one man, trying his best, to not listen and be damned rude about it. IF you are able, PLEASE take a look.

As fate would have it: war of edits on County Gov in USA. Do you think it needs a lock? The back and forth on the one man remove the local gov crusade is getting mighty thinCoal town guy (talk) 16:14, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree that this county government edit war is getting ridiculous, but since I've already commented on part of the dispute, I'd probably be considered involved. I do think someone neutral needs to settle this though. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 19:17, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Are you OK if I consult with Acroterion(sp?). I think his level thinking would help this along. I will of coutrse mention your name as well because, it is starting to get a tad over te top and halfway up the other side.Coal town guy (talk) 21:56, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Category warring: it's what all the cool kids are doing these days (re:American women novelists). I'm getting ready to head out and will be away for a little while: I'll look at it more closely once I have a little time. Looks like a consensus is developing.

There is one, BUT NOT for the singular person in question, hence my message to you. MANY thanks if you take another look!Coal town guy (talk) 23:06, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Gregbard seems to feel that the category is an appropriate place for a discussion of the devolution of rights from state to local government. While the position appears to be technically correct in the strictly legal sense (states have all rights not specifically reserved for the federal government and can allocate them as they see fit), I fail to see why such a dissertation is appropriate by implication in a category, or that a category description is the place to present a summary of state and local legal relationships, sourced or not. Categories are a form of housekeeping for the encyclopedia, not a means of presenting a hierarchy of legal authority. Has Gregbard done anything since the 19th in this area? Acroterion (talk) 00:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
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If you want help, you need to dial it back a little: it's over the top to get that upset over a category. Don't repeat your last outburst: seriously. Acroterion (talk) 01:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, he has. There are several editors being canvassed. I estimate, myself, Orlady, Nyyttend etc etc etc . I am unable to be non emotive here and need to steo back. I apologize to you in utter sincerity. BUT the edit warring is real and Gregbard is qupting the case law incorrectly. He also does not try to get a consensus. It is as you gathered, annoying. I would, very much appreciate, any look you could give. Many thanksCoal town guy (talk) 01:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm looking at it as inappropriate use of original research, edit-warring against consensus, and inappropriate expansion of categories so that they resemble articles more than the basic framework expected of categories. Acroterion (talk) 01:15, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
I would concur. For reasons I would rather not explain, I became rather emotive, I have editied my comments on the main discussion page for this as well as well as apologized to all involved. I would however request, that you please consider that editors who I respect greatly are getting it in the teeth for no good reason here.Many thanksCoal town guy (talk) 01:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
That's fine, best to disengage. That said, has something happened since the 19th to cause concern? Acroterion (talk) 01:23, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, he told Orlady to "BACK OFF" and has initiated a raher unethical downtalking about them. ON many user pages, AFTYER the 19th. Repeatedly. I, as you guessed, did not like that. Also, on a non related note, I found out that I am one of 12 people left alive from my town, not Whitby, sorry. Number 13 was a friend. I thought the editing would help, it did not. I will take a break and be back Monday. However distraught I am, I am sincere in my assesment of the activity since 4/19. Coal town guy (talk) 01:29, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I've not found that distractions help much in that kind of situation. I'll see what's going on at Orlady's talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 01:34, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Dont forget to look hereCoal town guy (talk) 01:46, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
I did. The reading's rather grim, but I don't see any traction for Gregbard's idiosyncratic view that local government is really state government (the short answer would be: it depends, and varies from state to state and county to county). I specifically don't see any actual, you know, sources, just assertions of superior knowledge. And as I've previously said, when did categories become appropriate places for such arguments? In any case, I've had a long week and will look in tomorrow. Acroterion (talk) 01:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Gregbard complained about Orlady at ANI and is now having his own behavior examined. I've commented, and will probably have more to say. As always, caution and temperance is advised at ANI: as Gregbard has illustrated, when you complain about someone at ANI, your hands must in turn be squeaky-clean. Acroterion (talk) 11:56, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
My previous replies on this topic were correct for content and spirit, but as I freely admit, I am rather emotive. Had I remained NON emotive I could have possibly commented, BUT I did not and thus, I full understand why I should keep it toned down. That being said, it is nice to know that while emotive, I did indeed note what other editors, far more capable than myself, also saw. I very much appreciate your professionalism here, and regret, I was not able to do so. Many thanksCoal town guy (talk) 12:50, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

InnoMen Productions

Hi, I just want to know what else I'm missing to make the article accepted. I referenced from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dischan_Media . Do I need to do anything else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helrouis (talk • contribs) 12:48, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied on user's talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 12:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Ameristralia redux

Hello, Acroterion

I noticed that you marked the page Ameristalia for deletion under "G3. Pure vandalism, and blatant hoaxes." I was wondering if you could revive the page and allow myself and others to edit it including information explaining that it is actually a joke, listing it under fictional countries, or something similar. I only contact you because I am unfamiliar with normal un-deletion policy, and feel that if I go through the normal route to request it be un-deleted it will be dismissed and there will be nothing I can do. I would very much appreciate it if you could respond on my talk page.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giavoto (talk • contribs) 22:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 01:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Final Beginnings

There is no such person as "Gorhedz Brunken", and there is no information about the movie. Alex2564 (talk) 21:57, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

You're certain that there's no Slovenian filmmaker by that name? Why did you tag it as an attack page? Acroterion (talk) 21:59, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Suburban Express

Hello Acroterion. After noticing at least one IP removing sourced content at Suburban Express with no discussion on Talk, I went ahead and semiprotected the article for two weeks. I became aware of the issue through WP:COIN#Suburban Express. If you believe this is excessive, feel free to modify. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 23:20, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Ameristrailia

Thank you for responding to my previous message.

I realize now that I, foolishly, went along with the crowd without thinking about the fact that this hadn't received any external coverage. I'm green and I haven't learned even a fraction of the information I need to judge critically here on Wikipedia. Maybe it will gain coverage in the future, but for now "Ameristrailia" will be rightfully laid to rest.

Again, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giavoto (talk • contribs) 05:45, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem, no apology needed. We get a lot of memes, people promoting their YouTube channels, garage bands, gaming clans or non-notable companies, and the answer is essentially the same: show us three national newspaper articles that cover the topic in moderate detail. No harm at all in asking. Acroterion (talk) 11:53, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

So three similar articles were just released on different news websites...can we count any of these?

Site 1 Site 2 Site 3

Best Regards,

Xybris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xybris (talk • contribs) 11:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Getting there, but all three articles are mainly concerned with the petition; I suspect that most editors would consider the petition inconsequential and would want coverage of the meme itself, rather than the petition. Nevertheless, as an assertion of notability, it would probably not get speedy-deleted. Acroterion (talk) 11:36, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Psychotronic weapons

I really would appreciate it if you would read over the Psychotronic weapons page. The sources are anything but fringe, and the Russians themselves have described the program, and its purpose numerous times. These statements have come from Defense Minister's and Putin himself, as well as US military analysts over the last 2 decades. Not acknowledging this on Stalking, and then pointing to Psychotronics (which appears, whether or not the entirety of the page is, to show psychotronics is a "paranormal" invention of a scientist from the 60s) certainly doesn't provide an accurate picture of the situation.

If you look at the talk page for Psychotronics it's clear that when I got there, the editors themselves admitted they didn't really know what the term was relating to. I took that as a sign that I could help, and provided a number of military sources to define it--it's difficult being in a position where you are "new" and have knowledge about a specific subject, and a group of people who admit they aren't familiar with the subject continually deride you for answering their question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damonthesis (talk • contribs) 16:19, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll take a look when I get a chance: I'd gotten rather tired of batting the same ball around, so I'll wait until I'm feeling a little more patient. Thanks for the apology on the protection, though I really don't expect new editors to be able to accurately parse article histories and protections, so I wasn't especially put out by your belief that I had protected the article. In the meantime, some advice (which Guy Macon has stated concisely at the bottom of the ANI thread): ANI and AN3 are concerned with editor behavior, not with content, and your attitude toward other editors and toward criticism are what's at issue in those places. Content is discussed on the article talkpages or a dispute resolution. Wikipedia is based on consensus, and so far the consensus of editors on the articles you've touched has been united against your proposals (Note that I say "your proposals", not "you."). Don't argue content at ANI or AN3: nobody will pay attention to that. The best thing to do is to lay back, digest what you've heard, and think about consensus-building rather than confrontation. Acroterion (talk) 17:16, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Abandoned French railway

Knowing of your interest in things Parisian, I thought I would direct your attention to the Chemin de fer de Petite Ceinture. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 14:05, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I've laid eyes on it and ridden on the part that's used by the RER. It's a nice little relic. An offshoot from the Petit ceinture ended at a freight yard whose air rights were occupied by Les Olympiades, which was where we had classes the year I was in Paris, before it moved to La Villette and became the École nationale supérieure d'architecture de Paris-La Villette. Acroterion (talk) 00:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Devil's Cigarette Lighter

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Courtney Saint (username: MEDLMobile) Author of Hang w/

Hi Acroterion,

I just created a Wiki page for 'Hang w/' an app that my company has created and I noticed that it has recently been removed by you. As this is my first attempt at creating a Wiki page, I was wondering what it was that I did wrong for future reference. I understand that it was taken off due to 'unambiguous advertising' and that was one of the very things I was trying to avoid; my goal was to act as a third party to simply inform readers about what 'Hang w/,' providing a basic description of what 'Hang w/' is, its functionality, describe its UI, and give credit to those who created it, MEDL Mobile. Hang w/ has recently surpassed over 100,000 users and has reached the top 30 on the iTunes charts. Hang w/ is also endorsed by several celebrities including KASKADE, Coco Crisp, Jamie Kennedy, and Ali Landry. If you could, would you mind reinstating my 'Hang w/ page so that I can make any adjustments that you suggest to make it a better page on Wikipedia? Also, because I did spend some time on it, I dont want to loose the work I put into it. Again I am sorry and I would really appreciate the feedback and to have 'Hang w/' reinstated.

Thanks,

Chandler Sant

Please feel free to respond to my talk page. —Preceding undated comment added 19:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Replied on user's talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 20:29, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

My articles

Hello, do you know how I can find articles that I've created? I mean list of articles that created by me. --NovaSkola (talk) 00:00, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Go to your contributions, look at the bottom toolbar, and there should be a link for "Articles created". You may need to be patient if you've done a lot of them. Since you've made more than 100 articles you'll have to tell it not to truncate: looks like you've done 150 new articles [5]. Acroterion (talk) 01:58, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I was searching google but couldn't find this toolbar. --NovaSkola (talk) 12:28, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Questions about TWA 800 edit

Hi,

I edited the TWA 800 page today and you reverted my change. The reason I saw was that it was a promotion. I added a media reference to a movie with something to say about the crash of TWA 800. I am not a part of that movie's staff or care one way or another about the success or failure of the movie. I watched the movie and, from it learned more about TWA 800. I went to Wikipedia to find out more. It didn't reference the film, and I thought that that was something lacking the Wikipedia article. I added it.

Since you don't believe it should be there, please explain. It is, indeed, media that makes a very specific reference to TWA 800.

Sincerely,

Bob D. San Francisco — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.88.144.155 (talk) 02:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

"Soapboxing" might have been a better summary. The conspiracy theories associated with TWA 800 are discussed neutrally elsewhere in the article. The "in media" section (which is something that is generally discouraged on Wikipedia these days and really ought to be removed in its entirety) is not a place for soapboxing on "control of the media" or to describe "military responsibility for the accident" as a fact. If the movie is notable and deserving of an article, it might be included with a neutral summary. You should discuss this on the talkpage with other editors first, and there ought to be an article on the movie first, assuming it passes the appropriate notability guidelines. Acroterion (talk) 02:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the "in media" section: such sections are discouraged in featured content reviews, and it was mostly unsourced. Any documentary that discusses the event would be more useful as a source (assuming it passes muster as a reliable source), and dramatizations are rarely notable enough for an article. As for the movie, it was just released: let's see if it gets any notice in the media. Acroterion (talk) 02:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation. I do not see a difference between my entry and the others, but I see your point about the "in media" section. I need to better understand the goals of Wikipedia, and of the standard procedures for editing the content. I'm not so good at reading through procedures and prefer to just try it. It makes me trust Wikipedia a little more to hear that it is not a free-for-all, but a collaborative enterprise.

I am left with an unanswered question. "Shadows of Liberty" brought up TWA flight 800. After learning about the crash from the film (not a dramatization by the way), I went to Wikipedia as a resource. It provided information and associations that I found very useful for answering my questions. If someone arrived at the TWA 800 page shouldn't they be able to see the association with another viewpoint. I guess (now I'm answering my own question) that you want a group of editors to agree that "Shadows of Liberty" is an important thing, and that once that page has been established that it can, and should, be referenced on the TWA 800 page.

No response necessary unless you feel I'm still not getting it or something.

-Bob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobdinsf (talk • contribs) 16:42, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Your summary is on the mark: consensus rules, and notability must be established and agreed upon for the movie to be discussed on Wikipedia in general. I think if it does appear on its own, it would be worth a mention there: not having seen the movie, I gather it's a sort of meta-criticism that uses TWA 800 as an example among others, so I doubt it'd be more than a peripheral topic with respect to TWA 800, but I certainly wouldn't rule it out. The errant missile theory was regarded as unsupported by the NTSB report, which would obviously be the most authoritative source: the movie is more concerned with the reportage than the facts of the event? There is room elsewhere in the article if a consensus develops.
As for the section, there was a purge of "in popular culture" sections a few years ago, as consensus developed that they were, generally speaking, a mess that grew and grew to overwhelm more encyclopedic content, becoming coatracks to support tangential discussions or unsourced discursions. Some "in media" sections still persist, but they're slowly disappearing. Acroterion (talk) 16:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

John Pincus Syndrome

Hello there my name I am a grandson of the late John pincus and I have been working on writing an article on my late grandfathers discovery. Unfortunately the article i posted last night was deleted and i havent quite finished working on it i also havent got it all saved so i would appreciate it very much if you could send me a copy of the whole article so i can save it.

Thank you in advance

Joseph Pincus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ymesh (talk • contribs) 11:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

About Catrack

Sir,

I create the official page for my company Catrack Entertainment Private Limited .. The Information used was taken from our official website http://www.catrack.com/ Please let me know why was the page deleted.

Regards, Hardik Trehan Executive Director Catrack Entertainment Private Limited — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardik392 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Blocked as an advertising-only account. Acroterion (talk) 15:35, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Daisy Diamond

Hi, I was thinking of creating an article about the film Daisy Diamond and now I see there have previously been some problems - relating to copyright? Would be grateful for more details of this. Picknick99 (talk) 08:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Suburban Express Concerted Vandalism

Hello Acroterion, A social media campaign by a blogger (negatedvoid - reddit moderator in www.reddit.com/r/UIUC) has overflowed to wikipedia. It appears that negatedvoid and friends are enjoying recent attention they've been getting, and they have repeatedly removed years-old informative content and replaced it with their self-promoting trash, which mostly relies on low quality journalism (student newspaper as opposed to, say, Chicago Tribune) and blog posts. I urge you to roll the page back to pre-social media campaign state http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suburban_Express&oldid=542659074 and protect it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thenightchicagodied (talk • contribs) 09:45, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

If you believe that the content of the article doesn't reflect reliable sources, that the content is not a neutral representation of sources, or that the the sources themselves are not reliable, please take your concerns to dispute resolution if you can't resolve them on the talkpage. Since there's no edit war or violation of biography of living persons policies, this isn't a matter that administrators can (or are supposed to) resolve. You might also look at the reliable sources noticeboard, though it's always best to discuss this on the talkpage first, without making claims of "vandalism." Acroterion (talk) 11:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

My Account

My account was left logged on a public computer and someone I guess just decided to attempt to get me banned I apoligize for those pages being made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debdeb18 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

That's pretty much what I thought - it was obviously entirely different from your normal editing. Happy editing, and remember to log off! Acroterion (talk) 22:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Wild Mary Sudik

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the revert. Trolls make me laugh. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 08:22, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

ColinScott

It said to contact this page if I wanted to make a Hang w/ page because someone else had made one but it got deleted. Can I make a new page?

Colin — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColinScott (talk • contribs) 03:48, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

You can: please review the advice on creating your first article, and remember that apps rarely qualify for articles. You'll have to show notability and referencing through independent media see WP:NOTE. The version I deleted amounted to advertising, so be careful of promotional language, and remember that you can't copy material from external websites to Wikipedia. Acroterion (talk) 12:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Mount Vernon

Hi Acroterion...anything to add here? The article is fortunate to get the attention of Giano and Malleus...about all I can do is provide some book refs if they want some. Has there ever been a structural/engineering report done of how the mansion was built and what was added when, etc.?--MONGO 23:17, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I suspect there are archeological surveys and conservation studies. I'll look around and comment at the talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 01:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Image Question

Hey Acroterion, hope all is well with you. I was working with User:JamesBWatson on an image question (but I think he is offline now), so I bring my question to you. James said I could upload an old 1940s matchbook image under Public Domain (which I thought I could do). Problem is, the uploader asks for the "original author of [the] work". I have no clue what to put. There isn't an identifying mark on the matchbook or anything in the discription of the eBay auction (which is where I found the image). Is there a way around the "author" field or am I stuck? I'm thinking "stuck". - Neutralhomer • Talk • 22:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

"Unknown" is always an option. Acroterion (talk) 01:08, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
That's what I put. :) I got some help from User:Matthew from IRC while asking him about the Great ToolServer Outage of 2013. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:59, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Wheeler No. 1 Oil Well

Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:01, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing the content from my talk page. I have a strange feeling that I'm being stalked. The warning that the IP refers to regards an edit I made way back in 2009 on a little used article and, while I do have a userbox pointing to my website on User:AussieLegend/Userboxes, I can't believe anyone would go to the extremes this IP has. Most people would just remove the links and be done with it. --AussieLegend (✉) 13:31, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

It did seem a little odd, given an apparent absence of prior interaction. I'll keep an eye out. Acroterion (talk) 13:41, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Question

If I create accounts, do administrators know my ip address? How to know my ip address if I create accounts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fceefyahoo.ca (talk • contribs) 23:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

In a pinch, administrators can find out your IP when necessary. You can find out what your IP is by signing out of your account, then looking at the top right corner of the page.--Mr Fink (talk) 23:34, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Jackson Barnett No. 11 Oil Well

Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:10, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

deleted article

I published an article about the biography of Steven D. Waldman and you deleted it so i need more clarification about the main cause because the article in its new version that i published doesn't contain any external links and it describes only the D Steven and its career — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nad.ooo90 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

It was written in an overtly promotional tone and contained direct copies of material posted elsewhere under copyright. The subject appears to be notable, but the material you posted read like a promotional resume rather than an encyclopedia article. WIkipedia doesn't accept advertising for people, things or companies under any circumstances, and you may not copy non-promotional, objective material published elsewhere on the Internet into Wikipedia unless you can clearly prove that it is your content. I see that you have been blocked for repeatedly ignoring this advice. Acroterion (talk) 13:38, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

GOOD NEWS!!!

THIS is complete because GNIS has an entry for all of those places now........I was able to finally get a response, so Viacova, Woodbay, Battleship, etc etc are now in GNIS....YAY......Thought you might like to knowCoal town guy (talk) 01:58, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for blocking the ip vandal. The vandal was blanking his own talk page and me and someone had to revert it back. Thank you DDreth . —Preceding undated comment added 02:29, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

In the future please remember that users can blank everything but the IP identifier template and declined unblocks for current blocks. It's pointless to just revert over and over again, and wastes everybody's time, not to mention exposing you to accusations of edit-warring. It also feeds the troll. Acroterion (talk) 02:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Wheeeee!

I just wanted to (now that you showed me and I remembered!) make a section to say a very hearty and sincere "Thank you SO much" for the links to my archives, and showing me the stupid stuff I forgot. I still have forgotten tons, but at least I can make sections on talk pages now! Thanks to you. :) (That's a smiley face, if I could ever remember how to make them I would make a real one.) Anyway, so happy you're still here!!! And thank you so much for your amazingly speedy replies when out of the blue I am back after over 3 years! I really felt honored, truly. Thank you. Now I just wish that I could edit pages, but anything I've tried says it has to be reviewed first, so I just gave up trying, because I don't know what that meant... but I digress. Hope your night is happy! Ariel♥Gold 03:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome, I'm glad to see you back - you were a voice of sanity, and I just happened to see your name go by and looked in Saturday night to see if you really were back. I've left a note on your page concerning the reviewer right - you're a reviewer now, so you can edit review-protected articles and have it go live immediately, or accept and decline edits by non-reviewers. Acroterion (talk) 11:50, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

why....

why did you cut my article.............. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15carriez (talk • contribs) 03:11, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

As I explained on your talkpage, it was a copyright violation. Translation doesn't make it any less of a copyright problem. Please use external websites as references, not as direct sources of text. Acroterion (talk) 03:15, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

But Wikipedia even deleted my article in my sandbox... I have to use it to show teacher my work although you thought it is not copyright...Do you know how can I get back my article..because I really need it... Thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15carriez (talk • contribs) 03:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

That's because copyright policy applies everywhere in Wikipedia, including userspace. Don't copy anything into Wikipedia, translated or not. I can email you the deleted text if you wish. Acroterion (talk) 03:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes,please..Thanks.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15carriez (talk • contribs) 03:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Please enable your email in your user preferences, and I'll send it. Acroterion (talk) 03:30, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Done..thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15carriez (talk • contribs) 03:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Article text sent. Acroterion (talk) 03:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

RE: Tim Young B.Sc., M.P.A. auto biographical entry submission

Here is my blog, I am a higher education expert and have been for nearly 15 years now however new to Wikipedia that I am. Sorry! I am a noob. Anyway there is my blog, with some writings I pulled from the state's largest newspaper, the state's largest liberal blog, the newspaper in Eugene at the University of Oregon where I went to school and served under the governor on the Oregon State Board of Higher Education. I am a local expert and have my masters in public administration.

This is my linkedin profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tdy12345

I started the recycling program at PSU, started it, and was in charge of billion dollar budgets on the state board of higher education. I have been working with our state treasurer on a $6b dollar deal for an endowment for grants for needy student in our state, a revolutionary idea of using state bonding authority for student grants.

If this is a matter of collecting all the various links that I am published and citing them I can do that. Thank you so much for your time and the work that you do. This seems overwhelming to me all that goes into this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Young, B.Sc., M.P.A. (talk • contribs) 02:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

First of all, it's generally frowned upon to write about yourself. Second, no biographies have one's degrees in the article title: I wouldn't be described as Joe Acroterion, B.S., MArch, assumng I was notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. Which brings me to point 3: you don't appear to be sufficiently notable for inclusion. You're a great guy, you do good work, but you need to have been noticed by major third-party media, preferably on a more-than-local scale, and to be considered important enough that several publications have spent some time to write about you. Please read WP:BIO for more on the notability of individuals. Acroterion (talk) 02:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVI, May 2013

Full front page of The Bugle
Your Military History Newsletter

The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here.
If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 13:13, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Heading home for a few days

Hey, just a FYI, I shall ne visiting the homeland, Southern WV, in McDowell and Raleigh Counties. IF you want a pic let me knowCoal town guy (talk) 17:59, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Actually, if you go past the World War Memorial (Kimball, West Virginia), a recent picture would be good, or anything listed on National Register of Historic Places listings in McDowell County, West Virginia and National Register of Historic Places listings in Raleigh County, West Virginia that's not illustrated, badly illustrated, or which has an old picture. That would be great! Acroterion (talk) 20:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Should be able to. I am getting back to Jenkinjones, Anawalt, Vivian (yup needs one) , Gary and on the way to Gary I believe I go through Kimball. Day 2, after I sleeeeeep, will be Beckley and Wildwood (yup, we need one there as well) AND some other places which are not historic, but cool to see. As a NOTE: the Switchback store in McDowell County is gone, its a lot of earth with weeds, nothing is there at all now.Coal town guy (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Sounds great, thanks for asking, and have a good time. Acroterion (talk) 01:03, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

deletion of photo digitization

hi just curious to know the reason for deletion of my article photo digitization . is it because i mentioned the names of companies which are doing that activity . though i named 3 companies 2 from us and 1 from india . if i remove the names of companies will it be considered ?

will appreciate a response which will help y understanding on submission of article


regards

shane — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdrtindia (talk • contribs) 04:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

First of all, Wikipedia isn't a how-to guide. The article was inappropriate for en encyclopedia on that basis alone. Wikipedia isn't a host for articles on how to change your car's oil, play Minecraft or advice on photo preservation. It was also unsourced. Third, it inappropriately promoted photo scanning services. Articles that provide advice with links to service providers are regarded as advertising pretending to be an article, and are deleted. Acroterion (talk) 04:29, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

My Sandbox

We locked my sandbox when I moved, since I knew I wouldn't have access, could you unlock it and semi-protect it, so I can figure out the problem with my signature? Whenever is fine, I've been transcribing for the afternoon, and I'm sick of the computer, so... no ruch. Thanks Acro!!! Ariel♥Gold 22:46, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Done. I'm not the right person to ask about sig coding, or any code at all, so I can't help much there. Acroterion (talk) 22:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Revision deletion

I have been using Wikiversity for a university project and I would like to have the history deleted, as instructed by my professor. I uploaded vhdl code in the past which should not be for online access. The page is http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer_Architecture_Lab/SS2013/GROUP4_ASSIGNMENT3 and I would like only the current version to be available. Please notify me with regard to the above. Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikotleas (talk • contribs) 09:14, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't have admin permission at Wikiversity. You'll have to contact a local admin there. Acroterion (talk) 10:11, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


Jews

Context: You accused me of disruption, however that was not the case. I, without the power that you have was fighting disruption as best that I could. I do not have the ability to edit the page Jews. An editor and an IP address had decided to add to the top of the Jews a doubt box, these boxes have always been inappropriately, and disproportionately put on pages relating to Jews throughout Wikipedia.

In many cases there are angry arguments with anti-Semites, I read these all the time, never joining in. It always annoys me though, because it should. In one case a decent person, I can show the case, had to argue with seemingly a dozen editors, that Simon Wiesenthal is a valid source for anything on Wikipedia, when Aryan books are used as valid sources elsewhere. They should not even be compared. I have and want nothing to do with those arguments it is your encyclopedia not mine, never will be. But why should someone have to go through that long argument with a deep bigot, it terrorizes all the good editors away (I said good not necessarily smartest).

However, on the actual page Jew itself, to brazenly accuse the whole page of the same thing which EXISTS HIGHER UP on the page, on Christian and if you would like I can show it on hundreds of other pages, from Mormon to pages about Japan, to the historicity of the Iliad. But even if I were to reduce it just to the Bible, it is used for Jesus, Christian, Catholic a few hundred thousand others, none of which received the doubt box nor should they, in my view or seemingly in almost all other editors views even I'm assuming at least some atheist's ones, except for when it comes to the page Jews. Every point I had made is valid on that page, and it is the original offender that needs to prove why the Jews should receive scrutiny all pages do not, in fact even more so for the Jews. Taking the book the Jews had used as a source for their history since at least the time of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Especially seeing how the Jews are easily the most criticized of the major religions already, and have been called the most persecuted people. The burden of proof is on the one doubting a "featured" page on this encyclopedia for years. I have never been a fan of how this Encyclopedia treats Jews (and gives them no protection, so that will remain my perspective, it is not soapboxing, because he painted the article with a broad brush which is a valid criticism, and I did not), but what I just wrote is soapboxing.

All I did was call bullshit on bullshit. There are many other arguments that can be given, but again it has been sitting on the page Christian without scrutiny, you really have to be extremely biased not to realize I'm in the right and there is no argument, except with my style. But I have no desire to edit extensively. I feel Wikipedia is a step back for the Jews (Encyclopedia wise, which is so so so so sad, Encyclopedias magically in the past 20 - 50 years have actually almost been fair to the Jews), when it should have been a step forward, and I have felt that way for years. And will evangelize that thought to anyone on earth with even a small conscience, and have. Again someone had to have a one month argument against a terrorist, about whether Simon Wiesenthal can be used as a reliable source, case against Wikipedia closed. He won but will he not be intimidated from then on? He will be. I hope there will one day be a terrorist free competitor to Wikipedia, which is real free speech, when minorities are protected more than the big boys, not less.

One day I will gather the courage to write what I just wrote, maybe better on Jimmy Whales page, with a few hundred thousand pieces of evidence I have noted over the years stored in my head. If I can convince somebody else too, because I am not necessarily the best writer, that would be good too.Yan Eggerland (talk) 16:48, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to say but what is stored in your head is worthless to Wikipedia...we need reliable sources...furthermore, Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Feel free to click on the blue links provided to help you understand our purposes here.--MONGO 17:33, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
You need to back up your opinions with sourced material from reputable scholars. As you know, Jewish-related topics are targets for some of the worst abuse on Wikipedia, so we keep the lid screwed down pretty tightly. The tolerance for soapboxing and accusations against other editors is almost nonexistent, so it's vital that you depersonalize your discussions and that you provide a concise, sourced exposition of your proposed changes. At the time you were warned the talkpage was being hit by virulent anti-semites and by an even more disruptive long-term vandal who views everybody else (and I mean everybody) )as an anti-semite. I have no opinion on the content, but I will take action to stop a flame war. Acroterion (talk) 19:24, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Dave Laxton entry

As a member of the Prescott Visitor Bureau I would simply ask that you stop deleting this entry. Dave was born here and is a well known resident. Come see us some time, I'll introduce you to him. Thanks, Sam Thomas

Please respect Wikipedia's standards for inclusion, and stop edit-warring. Acroterion (talk) 20:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

Hello my friend, Just wanted to say sorry you are having a few probs, but your friends are still with you. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 22:53, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, just some nuisance for someone who mistakes The Encyclopedia Anyone Can Edit for therapy. I appreciate the thought, hope all is well with you. Acroterion (talk) 23:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

2602:306:c518:6c40::/64

Hello. In the future, when it's clear an IPv6 user is IP-hopping, and the first four fields of numbers in all the addresses are the same, don't be afraid to place a rangeblock at the /64 level.--Jasper Deng (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I was trying to figure out IPv6 rangeblocks and was interrupted by dinner preparation. I'd sort of reached the same conclusion, and it's good to have it confirmed by someone more familiar with the subject. Acroterion (talk) 23:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

One's own talk page

I'm puzzled by this edit of yours, restoring comments that an IP deleted from his own talk page. Your edit seems to contravene WP:BLANKING; have I perhaps misunderstood something here? -- Hoary (talk) 11:57, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I restored an active block notice. I realize that it's permitted to remove an active block notice from one's "own" IP talk and had a lapse of memory on block notices vs.declined unblock notices. I believe I noticed some of their abuse-in-lieu-of -block-notice and a better course would have been to blank the abuse and remove talkpage access, but I was being distracted by RL activities. Acroterion (talk) 12:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Article proposed for deletion. Request for retaining.

Dear Sir, I wrote the article Directory Indian Wind Power which you have proposed for deletion.

The reason quoted is "Unremarkable Directory".

I have not understood this reason and would like to know from you after elaboration. I shall be grateful. That may give me idea as to how I should improve the article.

Also while going through the listed 'reasons of recommending article for deletion', on wikipedia, I did not see this particular reason 'Unremarkable Directory'.

There are following points submitted in support of the request: 1. the article is subscribed with sole intention to bring the Wikipedia important information about availability of a standard publication of repute 2. you may see that there was no entry on 'publication on wind power' on a page of Wind Energy on Wikipedia, and hence the author got encouraged to subscribe this information. If this entry is removed there, would be no information on that section at all.

Thus, this unique information may kindly be allowed not to be deleted for benefit of all stake holders of wind power industry.

A point has been raised recently assuming that the article intends to promote the Directory. It may be seen, that no where the original source of sale of the directory has been mentioned in the entire article. Thus the neutrality favors the fact that it has been written only for information sake.

You may notify on my talk page.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsaraf1 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Vsaraf1 (talk) 12:08, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Vsaraf1 (talk) 12:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


There is no indication of how the publication is significant enough for inclusion in the encyclopedia. This is done by reference to non-trivial notice in major third-party publications. Most books, publications, directories, etc. are not eligible for inclusion, and while the article is neutrally written, it appears to be present on Wikipedia in order to promote the directory, which is not in accordance with the purpose of Wikipedia. Acroterion (talk) 13:49, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


Alright. I only have few more links to share where the Directory has been quoted or referred. http://news.easybranches.com/2013/03/14/directory-on-indian-windpower-2012/

http://www.worldofwindenergy.com/wind_resources/research-and-analysis/directory_on_indian_windpower_2012.html

http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=hi&sl=en&u=http://www.indiacore.com/bookstore-ic/details/de-ipdi/ipdi134.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dreview%2Bof%2Bdirectory%2Bindian%2Bwind%2Bpower%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D636


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/research-and-markets-idUSnBw8BH4gpa+130+BSW20130313

It is widely read document and its feedback if not much seen on Web, some may be seen as extracts rewritten on the website http://www.cecl.in/cecl.in/outreach/directoryfeedbk.html#feedback.

Thank you for interest.

Vsaraf1 (talk) 13:31, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

The first two mentions are trivial, the third is a sales link, the fourth is a press release. None of them are useful in establishing notability: in general, any such publication would have trouble establishing notability: it's a directory, not a literary work, or an influential work of non-fiction analysis and commentary. Directories, of any kind, tend to be inherently non-notable. Notability requires substantial discussion in independent publications, not summary or mere mention or repetition of press releases. Acroterion (talk) 15:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Back from WV

Hey, Got Back. Here is a list of the new stuff as well as what I replaced from from what looked to be google earth shots Oak Hill Train Depot Fayette County ,Mt Hope Office Fayette County ,Peerless Co Store Vivian in McDowell ,Wildwood Residence at Beckley Raleigh County,Caretta Co Store McDowell,Pageton Company Store McDowell ,Algoma Co Store McDowell and Whipple Store in Scarbro, Fayette CountyCoal town guy (talk) 15:06, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

The store pictures are great! Acroterion (talk) 02:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
This was a very tough trip. I put in about 1000 miles in 3 days, so I am shot physically, I wanted to ask, do you know if there was ever any mention of Glen Rogers in the National Historic Places Listing??Coal town guy (talk) 13:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

RevisionDelete request

Could you please delete a revision made to User:SarekOfVulcan on 01:27, 6 May 2013 made by‎ 108.45.142.234? That time, their user page redirects to the page "Shithead", which I think is very gross, insulting, and offensive. Thanks 2001:0:4137:9E76:5F:DD4:B31D:C4C6 (talk) 21:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't fall within the guidelines for revdel -- simple reversion is sufficient. (Besides, I wouldn't swear the reverted version was inaccurate...) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Your motives do you credit, but we've all been called much worse names - on the Internet Shithead is close to a term of endearment. Sarek's right, it's not an occasion for revdel. Acroterion (talk) 00:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Avahura

According to the Wikipedia article, "A hoax is an attempt to trick an audience into believing that something false is real." The page on Avahura does not meet this criterion so I do not understand why you have deleted it. Babysabre (talk) 05:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Here's a more direct summary: don't make stuff up and post it on Wikipedia. Acroterion (talk) 11:07, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Apologies

I thought they were just copying a sentence from a Wikipedia policy and pasting it here as a form of trolling. - Amaury (talk) 14:54, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

It was a legitimate question in my opinion, so I restored it and left a more detailed explanation on their talkpage. I don't think that user was trolling, but they had friends who were, as you'd noticed. Acroterion (talk) 14:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Gotcha. Thanks. I even see you blocked their friends. - Amaury (talk) 15:16, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Tenmei AFDs

I am going to be 100% honest with you. I clicked through a link produced by Ansei (Tenmei's alternate account he used without telling anyone for half a year after he was banned on his first) of one of the various idioms and found that Tenmei was the original author and found it was in a poor state not really fitting for an encyclopedia article as it merely defined the phrase. I put it up for AFD. I then went through his article contributions to see if he made other such articles and put them up for AFD. As far as I know, Bueller 007 found my AFDs and did the same. I am not tag teaming, as Tenmei/Ansei accuses, nor was there any WP:POINT, WP:HARASS, or WP:DISRUPT intentions, as accused by Colonel Warden. For the handful of AFDs I made, I legitimately believe that they do not meet the guidelines for inclusion on this project.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Tenmei's at present an editor in good standing, no? I really don't see "merely defined the phrase" in those articles, and your argument seems to boil down to "I don't like it" (I won't insult you by blue-linking it). The subjects look to me like they can sustain articles, they're sourced (no, I haven't gone through the sources), and I think the AfDs are making a point about the author, not about the content. It's not an appropriate use of the AfD process, and while I won't accuse you of harassment, I think they're unacceptably pointy nominations. Acroterion (talk) 15:47, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
No, he is not. Tenmei is currently under an indefinite topic ban. It is only because of this that I've come across his behavior that was previously found by the community (paragraph 3) and ArbCom to be obstructive to collaborative editing, and it is this large collection of articles that he uses in this particular behavior.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
<ec>Looking at the Tenmei/Ansei business, I see some obvious issues of disclosure of alternate accounts. I see you're talking to EdJohnston about that, and I agree that it's exasperating. However, I don't see a reason to delete the content, or if you're trying to make a case for deletion on grounds that they were avoiding sanctions when the articles were created, then you should make that case on its own, rather than resorting to the dicdef argument. If it's a clear violation of an ArbCom sanction, you know where AE is. Acroterion (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I really don't think that learning the hard way is a suitable article though.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
It's easily the weakest of the bunch. I haven't commented on Gosei, since I haven't go the time to assess its currency or notability. Acroterion (talk) 16:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
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