User talk:Af122

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Hello, Af122, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:56, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

International Sign

Hi! I wanted to respond on your talk page:

With the sourcing and content, but it's very likely that the content without citations was not based on the sourcing on the page. My recommendation here is to search for the claims themselves and see if you can find sourcing to back them up. I'd also research the topic as a whole to see if there's any new information on the topic that isn't on the article. If you can't find any sourcing for the content then the content may need to be removed, as unsourced claims can be removed from the article.

I hope this helps - let me know if this answers your question or if there was something I missed or didn't go into enough. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

• Absolutely! As for the other sources, I'd just go ahead and ignore those and try to find new sources to back up the uncited claims. ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡) 20:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
• Sorry - that's me, that's just my main account! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Af122 (talk • contribs) 02:33, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

Af122, Wikipedia's Verifiability policy is core to the way the encyclopedia works. Assertions from the article like the ones you posted at Shalor's talk page need to be backed up. Good for you, for searching for citations for material in the article. Here are some links which may help you:

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

While you're searching, it would be helpful if you could tag the unsourced material in the article with the template {{citation needed}} to call out the fact that these paragraphs need citations. (In a similar situation, if a whole section seems to need more references, you can tag the top of the section right under the section title with {{Refimprove section}}.) These templates are a flag to other users that attention is needed at the article, and in case you get busy with something else, other editors can come in and follow up on what you started.

If, after a reasonable interval, you're unable to find references to justify the content, feel free to delete the content as unverifiable. If you end up having to remove the content, it would be helpful, although not required, to add a brief section to Talk:International Sign to explain what you did and why. Hope this helps, Mathglot (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks Mathglot! --Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) On a separate issue: the material you quoted said, ..has led to the emergence of a pan-European pidgin or creole sign. I question the use of the word creole here, as its existence would require children to have grown up creolizing a preexisting pidgin sign used by their parents or community. As someone who knows some ASL and has been exposed to FSL in France and read up on the European scene, this seems highly unlikely to me. While searching for references, see if you can find anything to justify creolization of European sign. If not, that word will have to come out. That a pidgin is, or has already formed in Europe would not be at all surprising, but would, like everything else in the material you quoted, require a reference. Mathglot (talk) 20:25, 26 October 2018 (UTC)