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Happy editing! Cheers, Cassiopeia talk 06:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
May 2023
[edit] Hello, I'm Cassiopeia. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Tony Ferguson, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 23:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Akaan237, Not only your edit is unsourced and pls note that the fight method is as per Sherdog based on Wikipeidia MMA guidelines. Pls do not interpret the method yourself. Cassiopeia talk 23:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did at UFC 249, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 23:59, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- I added the essentialy sports analysis of the fight where they clearly state the fact that Ferguson have been koed due to the several punches and not just one. And also TKO means that most likely fighter took a lot of damage. Is it worthy now? Akaan327 (talk) 03:09, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also i was thinking that the reliable source is not needed when the subject is that obvious. And i am sincerely apologising for thinking that. Akaan327 (talk) 03:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also, how can you tell me I'm wrong that Ferguson was koed due to the several punches because i don't have a source for it, meanwhile you didn't give any reliable source neither? How can you prove your point that he was koed due to the one punch and not a few? Akaan327 (talk) 03:15, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Akaan 32, Thank you for the message above and I have reverted your edit again. Pls understand that this is Wikipedia and for any editors want to edit Wikipedia need to adhere to Wikipedia guidelines and policies and not subject to our interpretation or even the subject interpretation (primary source) and the accepted source is independent, reliable source for verification. Since Wikipedia is about verification so our opinions even we witness the event ourselves that would considered primary source which can not be used for verification (since you and I and every editor in Wikipedia is enormous anonymous) regardless the true - pls see Wikipedia:But it's true!. And again, pls note the fight record is as per Sherdog based on Wikipedia MMA guidelines- see Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts. Pls do not change the info again. Cassiopeia talk 06:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, i'll change it next time, since you do not see sport analysis as a reliable source. Because i'm sure the written information is not true at all. By the way, which reliable sources on mma topic besides sherdog do you personally know? MMA junkie? MMA News? Or MMA.com? Because i need some. And also how does the credibility of a source is decided? By whom? I didn't change that many MMA articles before, so i don't know. Akaan327 (talk) 06:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Respectfully, Akaan327. Akaan327 (talk) 06:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, i'll change it next time, since you do not see sport analysis as a reliable source. Because i'm sure the written information is not true at all. By the way, which reliable sources on mma topic besides sherdog do you personally know? MMA junkie? MMA News? Or MMA.com? Because i need some. And also how does the credibility of a source is decided? By whom? I didn't change that many MMA articles before, so i don't know. Akaan327 (talk) 06:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Akaan 32, Thank you for the message above and I have reverted your edit again. Pls understand that this is Wikipedia and for any editors want to edit Wikipedia need to adhere to Wikipedia guidelines and policies and not subject to our interpretation or even the subject interpretation (primary source) and the accepted source is independent, reliable source for verification. Since Wikipedia is about verification so our opinions even we witness the event ourselves that would considered primary source which can not be used for verification (since you and I and every editor in Wikipedia is enormous anonymous) regardless the true - pls see Wikipedia:But it's true!. And again, pls note the fight record is as per Sherdog based on Wikipedia MMA guidelines- see Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts. Pls do not change the info again. Cassiopeia talk 06:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- For MMA fighter fight record we used Sherdog. On fight announcements, fight results, other info which we changed or add the content in the article (body texts), we can use MMA junkie, MMA News, Cageside Press, MMA Fighting, Sherdog, MMA Mania, Bloody Elbow, Lowkick, TSN (Canada), Fight News Australia (Australia), Combat (Brazil), EUrope Sport (Holland), MMA PL (Poland), MMA Viking (Northic), La Sueur (France), Asian MMA (Asian) and any major newspapers in the world.
Do take your time to observe regular, experienced mma editors edits so you could be familiar the norm and how to edit mma events and mma fighters' pages first. Do read a few time the message below (MMA related articles) and do pop by my talk page if you need help or any clarification for I am here to help. Welcome to Wikipedia and mma community. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 08:27, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Huge thank you for that! It will be very useful for my next amendments. I wouldn't exactly say that I'm new for mma community. But I'm also haven't seen pride and early UFC era. I became interested of martial arts for five or four years at least. And also i did already changed a few mma articles before and have read about mma topic on Wikipedia. So i did know about using sherdog stats in terms of record. But i wonder why does UFC use the different stats? For example UFC says that Ferguson has 26 victories. Meanwhile here's there only 25. What stats do they use? Akaan327 (talk) 08:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- I did change it. Sending links to the both MMA Junkie and sport analysis. I think the info should be changed due to the more sources claiming Tony lost because of the several punches than saying he got koed due to the punch. I guess now it's safe. And also can you please answer my question above? I wish to know where UFC are getting their stats from. Akaan327 (talk) 08:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]MMA info
[edit]Greetings. Since you have edited a number of pages of MMA related articles in Wikipedia, pls see the below info so you may understand how things work here.
- Pls visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts and read through the MMA Wikipedia guidelines.
- When a bout is announced which stating "finalizing, in work, rumors, verbally agreed, in the press, this means the bout is not official yet. Wait until it official before place it under the "Announced bouts" section of the event page.
- When a bout is announced in the press, editors put the match up in the "Announced bouts" section (inline citation is needed)
- When UFC.com / its local web site (pls check the reference beneath the fight card table in the Wikipedia page), the editors would remove the bout in the "Announced bouts" and place it in the "fight card" section.
- When a fighter pulls from a fight (due to injury/or by UFC/ visa issues and etc), we placed the info in the "Background section" (inline citation needed) and remove the injured fighter name and put "TBD".
- When a injured fighter has been replaced, editor put the info in the background section (with inline citation). If the new match up has not been shown in the UFC.com fight card, then we will removed the match up from the fight card and place it back to "Announced section". If the match up already shown in the UFC.com then jut put the replacement fighter in the fight card section.
- When the event named has been announced (such as UFC Fight Night: dos Santos vs. Tuivasa) then we place the info in the background section (with inline citation). If UFC.com has shown the event names (Fight Night events or UFC on ESPN) such as UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Medeiros or UFC on ESPN: Reyes vs. Weidman, then editor would move the article and article talk page name accordingly and not before, except the flagship event such as UFC 187, UFC 242 and etc.
- No colour box in the fighter's page infobox at event fight card page. No title eliminator in the fight card or body text in fighter page or event page. No (c) - champion on the event fight card unless the fighter is the current champion of the weight division.
- "method" in the fight table is as per Sherdog.com as per WP:MMA guideline and please do not interpret the method yourself even if the method is incorrect as Wikipedia is all about WP:verification and not the true.
- Info box as per Sherdog. No other nick names or else we would have many nicknames pop up every time there is a internet meme.
- Reach as per UFC.com as Sherdog dont have the info. Pls provide inline citation.
- Stand - need to provide inline citation. IF you can find source to support it, leave it blank
- Style - "The style parameter should only be used in MMA fighters that have participated professionally or in international competitions in other combat sports (i.e. boxing or kickboxing) and who are notable in said sports and deserve an article for their merits in these other sports (i.e. Antônio Rogério Nogueira, Alistair Overeem). It is suggested to MMA editors that they actively remove the style parameter in infoboxes of MMA fighters that do not meet these criteria." Leave style for modern mma fighter as they have to train several combat disciplines.
- No Flag icon on info box or fight table.
- Info could be obtain from Sherdog on Info box - need to support by sources such as teachers, belts, notable relatives, university, occupation outside fighting career and etc.
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Cassiopeia talk 06:14, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
January 2024
[edit] Please do not add or change content, as you did at Yoel Romero, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 16:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
April 2024
[edit] Hello, I'm Mellk. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Genghis Khan, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Mellk (talk) 12:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)