User talk:Alphaville3467

Welcome!

Hello, Alphaville3467, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

You may also want to take the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit The Teahouse to ask questions or seek help.

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! Yann (talk) 16:44, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Yann, I'm just now reading all this stuff! Alphaville3467 (talk) 16:29, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

Hi Alphaville3467! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

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How to alert other editors

Hi again! here's a little guide to help you get in touch with other editors:

When someone is posting on your talk page you get an automatic notification. That notification is a small blue sign followed by a long yellow box at the top of your page (for most browsers and settings). In all other cases you have to alert the other editor in some way, either by "ping" or by mentioning them in a link. This will result in just the red sign notification on top of that users page. So even if you respond on your talk page you still have to alert the editor you are addressing. If you want to get hold of me you write {{ping|W.carter}} resulting in @W.carter: or [[User:W.carter|W.carter]] resulting in W.carter and sign with the four "squiggles" ~~~~ at the end and hit "Save". There are some more, but these are the basics. And when you ask something on someone's talk page, you also create a new section so your question don't get entangled in some other conversation. If you are having a conversation with another user on some page, it is also customary to add that page to your Watchlist in case someone in the discussion forgets to alert.

The policy is to leave an answer on the same page as the question, keep the conversation intact unless there is some reason for moving it elsewhere. Like complicated questions at the Teahouse can be continued on the appropriate talk page. w.carter-Talk 19:17, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, W. carter, this is all a bit confusing to me right now, but I appreciate your help very much. Alphaville3467 (talk) 16:27, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Links

If you have trouble finding the draft, here are the links: Draft:Gabriel Delmas and Draft talk:Gabriel Delmas. Just click on them. w.carter-Talk 11:05, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No need to hurry

I read some of the things you wrote and then deleted at the Draft talk:Gabriel Delmas, and I can understand that much of this is overwhelming right now. Yes, everything you write and save is archived and can be accessed in the page history. You can see it by clicking on the "View history" near the top on every page, and then select which version of the page you want to see by clicking on the links to different posts below.

The first thing you have to keep in mind is that "there is no deadline on the Wikipedia". Most of us who work here have jobs to do and we can't be glued to the screen 24/7. A draft can lay dormant for days or weeks and no one will think that's strange. Just because I answer as quickly as I can and give you a lot of things to think about, doesn't mean you have to do the same. I just don't want new editors to feel neglected by being late in my reply. I have another newbie that I help, and he usually makes an edit about once a week and that is perfectly fine. We have a lot of time here. ;)

Building an article is like building a house. When all the material is first delivered, it seems like an impossible job and you don't know where to start. But you take a cup of tea, sit down and think about it and then you start, one brick at the time. No one here is rushing you. Best, w.carter-Talk 10:56, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@W.carter:Thanks! But of course I know you're not rushing me! ;) The momentum to finish is coming from me, all from me. I usually work very quickly and I realize that that is not possible when the learning curve is so high, plus I'm being a bit perfectionist with my draft. But can I say please don't stop giving me tons of feedback? I need it and want it and appreciate it. By the way, I took a look at your article on Moa Martinson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moa_Martinson), it's wonderful! That is the kind of thing I'd like to do somewhere down the line ... and I can't imagine how long that would take me! But for now, I start from where I am. The draft is coming.... Alphaville3467 (talk) 13:34, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I like to chat/help when I have the time. And we have all started small. The first one I improved seemed to go on for ever, but now I don't flinch at projects like this. That took a bit more than a week. You will also get there eventually if you want to. I had very good mentors and guides here and I hope I can pass on some of their knowledge to you. See you, w.carter-Talk 13:45, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, this one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Svensson) is just so good. I like how how tight and articulate it is, how, even though it's very brief, you managed to capture his artistic vision with clarity and insight. You crammed a lot of things in there and I think (in some ways) this is harder to do than being able to write a fully fleshed-out article. It's kind of what I need to do with the Delmas bio. That other article would have intimidated me beyond belief....but it's terrific. ;) Yes, I think you're an excellent mentor for me, very happy you're helping me. Alphaville3467 (talk) 14:03, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright

An example of how strict the copyright-thing is here just happened at the Teahouse. Another new user added a copy of a text there to ask a question about it. The text stayed up for about three minutes before an administrator removed it. The removal is visible in the "View history" of the Teahouse.

Also, don't know if you have realized it, but all this chatting on different page you have done so far, has actually prepared you very well for writing your article. By now you can use much of the wiki-code, you know how to use the editing window, have found out that things inside "{{}}" can result in something else and so on. A recent survey showed that editors who were active on talk pages tended to write better articles than those who just worked by themselves. w.carter-Talk 13:11, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@W.carter: Well, I'm happy to have you helping me navigate the sometimes treacherous waters here at wiki! I'm actually enjoying this a lot more now, despite the never ending learning curve I have to straddle.

You deserve big props! Alphaville3467 (talk) 15:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]