User talk:Amaury/2020/February
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Dunno if you've seen this, so I'm bringing it to your attention. Found this from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#TV by the Numbers, so feel free to comment there... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm sure you'll remember this from before – but I'm quite sure the Liv and Maddie vandal is back. So you'll need to keep an eye on this. I think if they do it again, send 'em to WP:AIV – I've now given a level 4 warning. If AIV fails, next stop is WP:RfPP. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:51, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The other user is clearly wrong on their reversion – WP:Primary sources do not demonstrate notability. This is exactly like the whole Mack Chat nonsense. But I will let you handle this, as this is an article I don't care about... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:22, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: They've started a discussion now, if you want to comment. I'll be working on Zombies 2 to put an end to those idiots. Amaury • 20:27, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have commented. But, as I said – this is exactly like "Mack Chat". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- FTR, I don't intend to comment anymore over there on this, as this is an article I don't follow. But the point is, my "notability" argument is exactly the same as an "WP:UNDUE" argument – if it hasn't received independent secondary coverage, including it is definitely WP:UNDUE. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:46, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have commented. But, as I said – this is exactly like "Mack Chat". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
The Loud House: A Very Loud Christmas!
Should this be thought to be the film announced today, or should we assume these are two separate projects? Based off of this, I would assume the latter (More info from main PR). Magitroopa (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Probably best not to make assumptions and wait for more specific information to be released. Ping IJBall and Geraldo Perez as well to this discussion if they have specific thoughts. Amaury • 20:38, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm not seeing any reason this draft can't be moved into mainspace now. It looks to check-off all the requirements for WP:TVSHOW... Agree? --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:24, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: I'm hesitant because there's no exact premiere date, just July. Amaury • 22:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- As per WP:TVSHOW, you don't need an "exact premiere date" – it just needs to be scheduled. For example, when shows are picked up in May for the broadcast network's upcoming "fall TV season", that's good enough to qualify for an article, even though the show's "exact" premiere won't be announced for a couple of more months... So, I think it can be moved now. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:42, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- I'll take care of it when I'm done with work tonight. Amaury • 22:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- As per WP:TVSHOW, you don't need an "exact premiere date" – it just needs to be scheduled. For example, when shows are picked up in May for the broadcast network's upcoming "fall TV season", that's good enough to qualify for an article, even though the show's "exact" premiere won't be announced for a couple of more months... So, I think it can be moved now. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:42, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Done. I've had to put in a request at the Kamp Koral redirect, because it's fully-protected, but once that's retargeted to Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years we should be all done here. Incidentally, it looks like there's material at SpongeBob SquarePants#Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years that can also be added to the article, but I'm going to leave that to other editors... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:52, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Side Hustle
First I've heard of this: [1] I'm guessing this means that Bartels's days on Coop & Cami are numbered... Anyway, no article or draft for this yet. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:56, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: I'll start working on one. How do you think they'll write her off the series? I'm guessing an old style breakup. It's old school, but simple. Amaury • 17:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Why do you claim it's a Disney Channel series even though they are not credited anywhere? Only Canadian companies are credited. (And as for the infobox, Disney Channel could have stayed there if the series was co-produced in the US, but it isn't. The country of origin at the very end only lists Canada.) Luigitehplumber (talk) 20:12, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
Is this a crediting level thing? Because it looks like both Kees Hulst and Tillmon Galloway have been in enough episodes to qualify as "recurring". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:33, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: You're welcome to take responsibility for the edit, but this is Lado we're talking about, a user with a history of disruptive editing. See School of Rock. They also appear to have a language barrier. Amaury • 15:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- I will restore – unless they were credited as co-starring, they can/should be listed. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:05, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Just for the record, and I believe I may have said this somewhere before, all of Hunter Street's non-main cast is credited as co-starring, even the parents. Why? I don't know. Perhaps because things work differently where Hunter Street has been produced? Similar to how I Am Frankie credits all non-main cast as guest stars, even super minor roles, which led to our discussion. Amaury • 15:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- OK, if there's no crediting distinction (prob. because this is a Dutch show), then they should be listed. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure why they posted to the Talk page 20 minutes after I restored the content (and more than 20 minutes after we discussed this here...) – that clearly wasn't necessary. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:25, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- @IJBall: Just for the record, and I believe I may have said this somewhere before, all of Hunter Street's non-main cast is credited as co-starring, even the parents. Why? I don't know. Perhaps because things work differently where Hunter Street has been produced? Similar to how I Am Frankie credits all non-main cast as guest stars, even super minor roles, which led to our discussion. Amaury • 15:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- I will restore – unless they were credited as co-starring, they can/should be listed. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:05, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Premature closures at WP:AN/I
The discussion below was moved from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents: A heads-up, or perhaps just an oddity
Please stop randomly closing discussions at ANI. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:23, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: You may wish to clarify what you mean by random, because I see other non-admin users close discussions here all the time, at a much more regular basis than I do. If it's just that this or other discussions weren't completely finished, that's fine, but you were pretty vague there. Amaury • 05:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- You seem to lack the ability to tell when a discussion is done. If I wanted to close this discussion, I would have done it myself. You also should not be archiving discussions until at least 24 hours after the close. I don't understand why you've suddenly decided to become ANI's self-appointed non-admin clerk, but I suggest you stop. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: Suddenly? I've closed discussions here before. Besides this year, I've closed discussions in 2018, 2019, and so on. Now suddenly it's a problem? I wasn't aware resolved or closed discussions couldn't be archived until 24+ hours have passed, because I don't see it written anywhere, at least not on this board. A simple just a heads up—no pun intended with regard to this section's title—would have sufficed. And if only admins can clerk here, then why aren't other non-admin "clerks" being told to stop? While I'm not stating this as fact, it seems like it's just me that there's a problem with. Whether it's because of a couple of small mistakes while "clerking" or other reasons, I do not know. But if you'd like me to be gone from this board, consider your wish granted, I guess. Amaury • 05:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- There's no prohibition against non-admin closes. But this is the second time today you've unilaterally decided that an ongoing conversation I was trying to hold was done – earlier today, one of my replies actually got an edit conflict with your close. You seem to be doing a rather poor job at guessing when I'm done talking. Other people sometimes annoy me by needlessly pinging me while putting purple boxes around what I said, but they at least have the good sense to wait until I'm done talking. As for the archiving instructions, they're at the top of the noticeboard. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:30, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: Okay, the instructions I did miss because they're small and seem kind of like a side notice. Thanks for that. As for the other stuff, I apologize for upsetting you. I will say, though, it definitely wasn't random. I don't know what the second ANI that you were involved in is, so I can't comment too much on that one for now, but as for this one, it looked done to me since blocks were made, but I guess I needed to be more observant as this wasn't just a simple case of a, for example, WP:NOTHERE user being reported and then blocked, with nothing else to do afterward but to, well, close the discussion. I will work on reading the signs better. I'm sorry. Amaury • 06:38, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- There's no prohibition against non-admin closes. But this is the second time today you've unilaterally decided that an ongoing conversation I was trying to hold was done – earlier today, one of my replies actually got an edit conflict with your close. You seem to be doing a rather poor job at guessing when I'm done talking. Other people sometimes annoy me by needlessly pinging me while putting purple boxes around what I said, but they at least have the good sense to wait until I'm done talking. As for the archiving instructions, they're at the top of the noticeboard. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:30, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: Suddenly? I've closed discussions here before. Besides this year, I've closed discussions in 2018, 2019, and so on. Now suddenly it's a problem? I wasn't aware resolved or closed discussions couldn't be archived until 24+ hours have passed, because I don't see it written anywhere, at least not on this board. A simple just a heads up—no pun intended with regard to this section's title—would have sufficed. And if only admins can clerk here, then why aren't other non-admin "clerks" being told to stop? While I'm not stating this as fact, it seems like it's just me that there's a problem with. Whether it's because of a couple of small mistakes while "clerking" or other reasons, I do not know. But if you'd like me to be gone from this board, consider your wish granted, I guess. Amaury • 05:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- You seem to lack the ability to tell when a discussion is done. If I wanted to close this discussion, I would have done it myself. You also should not be archiving discussions until at least 24 hours after the close. I don't understand why you've suddenly decided to become ANI's self-appointed non-admin clerk, but I suggest you stop. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Closure of "User:Kenji1987 WP:NOTHERE" at WP:AN/I
In this edit you closed a slow-moving conversation less that 12 hours after the last comment, and after I explicitly requested it not be closed for the reason you gave. (Particularly, anything Kenji says should be viewed with skepticism, including the idea that they're stepping away (obviously, since they responded to my comment).) I request that you revert your close. --JBL (talk) 12:03, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Joel B. Lewis:
Done. My apologies. I made a couple of other bad closures yesterday, from what NinjaRobotPirate said, so let me know if there's anything else. Add: Although I did miss what you said about not closing it and only read the last few lines of text, which indicated it was resolved. Apologies again. Amaury • 15:23, 29 February 2020 (UTC)