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Speedy deletion declined: Adonis Durado

Hello Amortias. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Adonis Durado, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a valid claim of significance, so it passes A7. Without understanding the legitimacy of those awards it's difficult to tell if it would survive an AFD. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 19:34, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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CarlosRojas77 continues deleting legitimate sources in "El Clásico"

Hi again, we have this problem again.

My source is from a legally-registered company named "EDICIONES DIGITALES DEL DEPORTE SL", dedicated to sports media.

It's a media company legally registered within Catalonia, Spain. According to wikipedia standards (and IN A SPORTS ARTICLE!), It's a 100% legitimate source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cid Campeador3 (talkcontribs) 21:33, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi, if someone disputes a source as reliable then it has to be taken to the talkpage for discussion. There has to be consensus gained to decide if a source is reliable or not. The best way of doing this is through a Request for comment which will request editors who are on its mailing list to come and comment on the discussion to help gain consensus. Amortias (T)(C) 21:36, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Im actually getting irked. I have messaged three admins now on this very issue and taken this to Arbcom. I dont really that have much of a problem being given a warning on edit warring because I don't expect those who issue them to read every detail of what is occurring. Read the talkpage on El Clasico. I have asked for input from other editors to gain consensus on the article, and to meet neutrality and accuracy. You can help btw. As for locking the page....please do, I've requested it yesterday before CambridgeBayWeather told me to see how the page goes. The issue is laid out in talk...we have Barcelona and Madrid fans going back and forth (look at the edit history)...one of the most vandalised pages on this site, both sets of fans detest each other and the bias is inevitable. I have removed biased General Franco comments from Barcelona fans, I have removed biased censorship to the 11-1 game from Madrid fans. My requirement is simple....reliable, neutral and accurate sources. That's it. I have used The Independent and The Guardian....I have then requested that any Spanish sources (who are notoriously biased toward either team) are verified for these three requiments. I support neither team, infact both teams keep taking players from my own team (Liverpool FC). I don't care what their history is so long as what appears in the article is accurate. I have requested that the page is locked, and any edits are discussed in talk and consensus reached. I also believe that neither set if fans should be allowed to edit the page one look at the edit history answers why. I've done my best...I first edited the page at the beginning of last month, and every single edit has been to maintain neutrality and report as accuately as is possible. Any assistance would be welcome. (and anyone else on board too frankly). User:Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 21:45, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Carlos Rojas77, myadvice (as per above) would be to make a [WP:RFC|Request for comment]] as this will then push it out to multiple editors who are on the mailing list for this service. Although these decisions are not binding in the polcy sense of the word it does make it easier to enforcesanctions against parties who kowingly go agsint the decision of these processes. I believe at present this would be the best way forwards. As there is some involvement on my part I would be best not getting involved in the decision makign process outside of an RFC. If one of these is raised i will certainly be willing to put in my two cents towards the discusion. Amortias (T)(C) 21:59, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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Rob Stone

Hi Amortias, I'm new to editing wikipedia pages and I just received your message regarding my edits to Rob Stone's page. Could use your help with this page. I work for Rob Stone and I noticed that his page says: "The neutrality of this article is disputed. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved." I would like to resolve this, would you be able to help me?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joycefdm (talkcontribs) 20:08, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joycefdm, the best way fo making changes to the article would be to go to the talk page of the article and click the new section button. Insert {{requested edit}} on the first line of the new section then state what you want to change, it would need to be in an I want to change X to Y format. The main reasons for this are that as you are employed by the article namesake there would be a conflict of interest in you editing directly, by posting the request on the talk page in question this will give an uninvolved editor chance to review and implement your edit to the article whiel makign sure it remains within the guidelines for editing. Amortias (T)(C) 20:40, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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removed content regarding "decreased risk"

Removed the content regarding decreased suicide risk because the section read like a pharmaceutical company advertisement and was inappropriately in the wiki article regarding increased risk NOT decreased risk. Perhaps a new article should be started for this PHARMA advertisement? Maybe we have enough on television? In fact the information cited in the content I removed was from an article sponsored and with data SUPPLIED by the pharmaceutical industry. Here is the footnote from the very article the section cited and used.

"Additional Contributions: Data were supplied by the National Institute of Mental Health (Treatment for Adolescents With Depression Study), Wyeth, and Eli Lilly and Co.

Financial Disclosure: Dr Gibbons has served as an expert witness for . . ."Wyeth, and Pfizer Pharmaceuticals in cases related to antidepressants and anticonvulsants and suicide. Dr Brown directed a suicide prevention program at the University of South Florida that received funding from JDS Pharmaceuticals. Dr Mann has received research support from GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis"

Hi, if this is the case then you can remove the information but you will need to explain why in the edit summary box so other users are awae of the reasons for the removal. Amortias (T)(C) 17:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

I left message as you suggested in edit summary reason box and was again undone. Told I was edit warring although i gave explanation which was cogent What do now?

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