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Hi I'm trying to create a company page and then w few pages on the team members. this is my first try so I wandted to find out how to create pages on people - I can only edit the page I'm working on so the company page. AndyCytrycki (talk) 09:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm trying to create a page on a company. And then a few pages on the team. Now I can only see User page and there the page I'm working on - how can I create the company page and the team members pages? Thnak you AndyCytrycki (talk) 09:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

please only ask your question in one place. ltbdl (talk) 10:14, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

sure thing - I'm a new user still learning. AndyCytrycki (talk) 10:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you clarify what you intend to do a little? What do you mean by "the team"? Do you mean the people who work for the company? Are you working for the company, whether as an employee, as a contractor, or in any other capacity? JBW (talk) 10:17, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. I'm Head of PR in the company. I wanted to create a page on the company - a brief description - just like i.e. Citibank has its page - with the history, that it does etc. As well as add the bios of the Management - CEO etc - exactly the same as other companies do. AndyCytrycki (talk) 10:21, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you really can't see the difference between the way the article Citibank is written and the way you have written about your business, then you are unlikely ever to be able to write in the neutral way required for Wikipedia. My guess is that you are probably being perfectly sincere, and really can't see the difference. It seems that many people who work in marketing/advertising/PR/etc spend so much time, day after day, year after year, reading and writing promotional language that eventually they become desensitised to it, and honestly cannot see the promotional character of writing which hits other people in the face as soon as they look at it. A consequence of that is that such people often find it very difficult, or even impossible, to adjust to writing in the neutral way required for Wikipedia, even if they sincerely intend to do so. JBW (talk) 10:45, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Experience has unfortunately shown that most (but not all) people with experience in PR cannot be taught to write a proper article, because they are so completely oriented to writing advertisements or quasi-advertisements that they honestly cannot see the difference between that and a proper encyclopedia article." -- User:DGG" --Orange Mike | Talk 16:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After your first message I fully understand what you meant about the differences - and for me it wont be a problem - I just wasn't sure on the policy - know its clear to me. The only thing I want to be sure of is - if I write a page on the company - that will be fully as a description and without any marketing aspects will it be posted. I didn't say I don't see the difference.

I just wanted to find out how and is it possible to create such pages. As I said there is a page on one of the members of the team. I also looked up different bios - and see the box that the text is advertisement. AndyCytrycki (talk) 10:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You keep using that bullshit term "team". There is no "team". I finally figured out that it's a euphemism for management of the company. Use of marketing junk verbiage like that will finally get you blocked for attempting to commit marketing here. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:41, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Wikipedia for promotion or advertising

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. You have in fact already been told editing for promotion is unacceptable, but the very brief mention of it may have been lost to your attention amongst the other material posted above, so I thought it might help you to give you a more prominent warning about it. Be careful: if you continue to post promotional material then you may be blocked from editing by an administrator. JBW (talk) 10:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some advice on getting started as a Wikipedia editor

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