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Charity episodes

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@AnemoneProjectors: Good news I heard back from BBC Archive and they managed to find some more info out about Charity episodes they haven't managed to find all writers/directors but more than we had thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 16:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Kelvin,

Thank you for your enquiry.

I have been able to find some of the requested details regarding the EastEnders charity sketches:

  • Children in Need - Pudding Lane - (Runtime Director/Writer) 26 November 1999
    • Runtime part 1 - 5’42”
    • Runtime part 2 - 5’00”
    • Runtime part 3 - 3’42”
    • Runtime part 4 - 3’00”
    • Runtime part 5 - 5’23”
    • Writer - Tony Jordan
  • 2001 Comic Relief - EastEnders Special - (Director/Writer) 16 March 2001
    • Runtime part 1 – 8’21”
    • Runtime part 2 – 4’10”
  • 2003 Comic Relief special - EastEnders Special (Director/Writer) 14 March
    • Runtime – 8’03
    • Director – Karl Nelson
  • Children in Need - Peggy Vs Lauren - (Director/Writer) 18 November 2005
    • Runtime – 6’43”
    • Writer – Catherine Tate
  • Children in Need - East Street - (Director/Writer (possibly Darren Little) ) 19 November 2010
    • Runtime – 14’39”
  • Children in Need - The Walford Apprentice (Director/Writer) 16 November 2012
    • Runtime – 4’21”

There were no further details regarding the other Directors/Writers.

I hope you find this information useful for your research.

Kind regards, BBC Archive

@Kelvin 101: hi, I didn't know you were asking for this information, but great that we found out who wrote Pudding Lane and Peggy Vs Lauren and who directed the 2001 Comic Relief special. — anemoneprojectors 08:00, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Additional info:

The ‘Oz Enders’ sketch from the 21/11/2003 Children in Need show had the following runtimes:

  • Part 1 – 4m 29s
  • Part 2 – 5m 2s
  • Part 3 (live) – 6m 39s

Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 18:06, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That's 16 minutes and 10 seconds in total, so should be 16 not 15 minutes in the table. I've changed it. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 10:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kelvin 101: Just wondered what you thought about the inclusion of some of the charity specials where they sing and/or dance. When it's the actors on the CiN or CR stage then it shouldn't be included in my opinion, but I just recently watched this year's Children in Need special which was filmed on the set and some of them were sort of in character, like I think Mick and Linda. Can we get together a list of them and see what we think? If clips are available online. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 17:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@AnemoneProjectors: Hi yeah sure originally I was in favour of it but like you say it would depend on whether they were portraying their character or if it was just themselves performing. I have put together a list below. Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 19:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Children in Need

Additionally

Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 19:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also

Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 20:55, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So I finally got around to checking these out. I would say we should include the following because they were recorded on the set
I'm not sure about included The Big Albert Square Dance ("Get Lucky" dance medley, CIN 2013) or GreaseEnders (CIN 2014) because they appear to have been recorded live, but that can be discussed, and if they're not live it's fine. I haven't looked at the making-of videos yet so maybe watching those might help me to decide.
I don't think we should include Top Hat (CIN 2015) or the CIN special 2016 as, although they start off pre-recorded on the set, the cast perform the rest live on the CIN stage.
"Fairytale of New York" is taken from EastEnders Christmas Party so shouldn't be listed separately, I don't know if EastEnders Christmas Party needs to be included at all. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 13:53, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wiki has CIN pages from 2004 onwards and nothing is missing apart from in 2010 they did a countdown of their top CIN moments and it says in 2001 Shaun Williamson did a Queen skit so we need to find that to see if it should be included. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 14:04, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking through the CIN clips and found these better, additional and related videos:

I'll put in the ones we can, but the behind the scenes stuff, interviews and live performances by bands from the set don't need to be listed. Thinking we should include the Big Albert Square Dance and Grease-Enders. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 18:01, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lauren's Diaries

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@Kelvin 101: Hi, do you think the "Happy 18th Lauren?" episode is actually considered an episode of Lauren's Diaries? A few reasons I think it might not:

  1. Here and here although it's categoried or tagged as Lauren's Diaries, it's named differently, with "Exclusive drama" instead of "Lauren's diary" or "Lauren's video diary" like all the others
  2. On Nickie Latham's Linkedin she has called it an "EastEnders spin-off episode" and talked about Lauren's Diaries separately
  3. It was broadcast separately from the other episodes.

I'm inclined to remove it from Lauren's Diaries. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 11:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@AnemoneProjectors: Hi yeah good point, the way it's worded does make it seem separate. The reason I thought it was part of the Lauren’s Diary was that the video on the BBC's YouTube channel names it as that but maybe it's just an mistake.
but there is more evidence to suggest its separate. Also looking at the series name we have it written as "Lauren's Diaries" but I think it's actually just called "Lauren's Diary". Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 12:38, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Individual Lauren's Diaries are labelled "Lauren's Diary" anyway, it's the whole series that is Lauren's Diaries so that doesn't make a difference. It's the things I already said that make it different. I believe I added it as Lauren's Diaries in the first place because of how it was listed in the blog, but even at the time I wasn't 100% sure because of "exclusive drama". If the person who wrote it lists it separately, then it's probably separate. I think we should ignore how it's named on YouTube. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 13:40, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Or we can leave it where it is. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 13:54, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kelvin 101: The reference you provided just now makes me think we should leave it in as it's in 4 chapters. Also, I removed the list because the list is in Lauren's article, so might that need updating? Thanks. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 15:09, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source

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Just dropping this here - it relates to "Naked Truths", "Slaters in Detention" and "Last Tango in Walford". Can't really be included in this article but if any of them ever get an independent article, this could be useful. 14 weird EastEnders, Emmerdale and Coronation Street spin-offs you may have forgotten from the Metro. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 18:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did use it actually :-) — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 18:44, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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