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July 2010[edit]

Please do not reinsert trivia to articles as you did in the following two edits: [1] and [2]. Sottolacqua (talk) 11:57, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From the Trivia page linked by the above:

"What this guideline is not There are a number of pervasive misunderstandings about this guideline and the course of action it suggests:

This guideline does not suggest removing trivia sections, or moving them to the talk page. If information is otherwise suitable, it is better that it be poorly presented than not presented at all. This guideline does not suggest always avoiding lists in favor of prose. Some information is better presented in list format. This guideline does not suggest the inclusion or exclusion of any information; it only gives style recommendations. Issues of inclusion are addressed by content policies. [edit] Not all list sections are trivia sections Main page: Wikipedia:Embedded list In this guideline, the term "trivia section" refers to a section's content, not its name. A trivia section is one that contains a disorganized and "unselective" list. However, a selectively populated list with a relatively narrow theme is not necessarily trivia, and can be the best way to present some types of information."

The information in my edits were added in sections where numerous other "facts" or "trivias" regarding the films achievements at the Academy Awards were already present. All the information including the information that I added can be verified and the trivia guidelines as quoted above do not disallow such information being posted especially when it it relevant to the section in which it is placed and indistinguishable in subject to the content already present in this section.

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article The Silence of the Lambs (film), please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources for information about how to cite sources and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Even if sourced, this is trivia. Please discuss your edits on the article Talk page. Rodhullandemu 15:27, 27 July 2010 (UTC) _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Copied and pasted from the section of the page that I had added to. Highlighted in Italics are examples that fall under identical definitions of trivia that my addition does. None of these have been removed:[reply]

"As of 2008 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King had won more cultural awards (79) and nominations (117) than any other single film in history.[3] Some of those awards and nominations include:

On 27 January 2004, the film was nominated for eleven Academy Awards: Academy Award for Best Picture, Directing, Adapted Screenplay, Original Score, Song, Visual Effects, Art Direction, Costume Design, Make-up, Sound Mixing and Film Editing. On 29 February, the film won all the categories for which it was nominated and was the first fantasy film to win the Best Picture award. The film tied with Ben-Hur and Titanic for the most Oscars won by a single film, and broke the previous record for a sweep set by Gigi and The Last Emperor, which both received nine awards.

None of the ensemble cast received any acting nominations, making this film one of three which were nominated for Best Picture with no acting nominations (the others are 1995's Braveheart and 2008's Slumdog Millionaire).

The film also won four Golden Globes (including Best Picture for Drama and Best Director), five BAFTAs, two MTV Movie Awards, two Grammy Awards, nine Saturn Awards, the New York Film Critics Circle award for Best Picture, the Nebula Award for Best Script, and the Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form. It is the most honored fantasy film in history.[46] ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Also from the Silence of the Lambs page are other examples of "trivia" that have not been removed highlighted in Italics:

Jonathan Demme won an Academy Award for Best Director. Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins both won Oscars for their roles as Clarice Starling and Dr. Hannibal Lecter, respectively. The film won additional Oscars for Best Adapted Screenplay and Best Picture. The Silence of the Lambs is only the third (and most recent) film to win the five most prestigious Academy Awards (after It Happened One Night, 1934 and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, 1975).

The film is second in the department of most Oscar nominations for a horror film (7) tying the record previously set by Hush... Hush, Sweet Charlotte in 1964; The Exorcist is in first place with 10 nominations.

Edit warring[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Silence of the Lambs (film). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Sottolacqua (talk) 15:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Sottolacqua (talk) 15:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Advice[edit]

When other editors are reverting your edits it's time to discuss them. Please see WP:BRD. Also, it's worth taking a look at WP:POINT. I suggest you take a short break to familiarise yourself with some of our editing policies; and the above warnings should be taken seriously- they are not idle threats. Cheers. Rodhullandemu 15:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I have taken into account your policy on Trivia. Bearing this in mind rather than make the addition that I had originally intended I have chosen to remove all similar instances of Trivia on both pages.

That's only your opinion. Wikipedia is a collaborative project and requires consensus to develop in the case of disputed material. Unilateral removal of material, especially sourced material, without even attempting to negotiate consensus is disruptive. It isn't too late to start again, but bearing in mind the above advice. Rodhullandemu 16:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt consider it my opinion. I considered it perfectly reasonable for the information that I removed to have been present on the pages that they were, however they were all categorised in identical terms to the information that I was trying to add so if one is deemed inappropriate than it stands that the rest should be deemed the same. I don't mean to be petty about it but my edit was removed without agreement and, as has been pointed out by the first editor, it was not the content of the material that was in question but its categorisation. The material was also removed without noting similar instances of "trivia" that were evident in the sentences preceding and following the edit.

Signing posts[edit]

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. Sottolacqua (talk) 17:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Done Anotoriousbug (talk) 11:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]