User talk:Ariadnaroca1995

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Ariadnaroca1995, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Draft:FM Group, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:FM Group[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Draft:FM Group, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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COI[edit]

You have an obvious conflict of interest and you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Ariadnaroca1995. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Ariadnaroca1995|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message. Also read the following regarding writing an article

you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:

significant coverage in
independent,
multiple,
reliable,
secondary sources.

Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.

you must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.
there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
you must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply[edit]

Please add your messages to the bottom of the talk page, or they may be overlooked.

I deleted your article because

much of the text was unreferenced or sourced to sites that were not independent third-party sources such as affiliated pages, interviews, press releases and advertisements
To show notability you need to tell us about the company beyond what it sells, with hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits
it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. You included in-text spam links to your own pages, and examples of unsourced or self-sourced claims presented as fact include: luxury residential property... one of Scotland's leading real-estate developers... its speciality remains the provision of luxury housing, often in historic locations... done important work... offers a private beach, restaurant and marina... offers the possibility to buy real estate, giving buyers the opportunity to get a return on their investment by renting their property to visitors and so on, lots of opinions, not many real facts.

The fact that other articles have not been deleted doesn't help you, either they met the criteria or they should be deleted as well. See What about article x?. Also note that many articles would have been accepted before the notability guidelines were made stricter.

If you try again, you must follow the detailed guidance in my first message. See Tesco as an example of a decent company page.

If you want to reply, you can do so on my talk page. You can alternatively leave a message on this page, and I will know you have done so if you start it with my user name, User:Jimfbleak and sign it with four tildes ~~~~ when you post it. That will send me an alert. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ariadnaroca1995 (talk) 11:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC) Hi Jim,[reply]

Thank you for the quick response. I did not mean to sound promotional with terms of "luxury" property luxury residential property... one of Scotland's leading real-estate developers... its speciality remains the provision of luxury housing, often in historic locations...

This is how FM Group has positioned itself in the market (luxury property) and most of the locations they use are historic (either baronial castles or A-listed buildings). I have also referenced this to newspper articles that are 3rd party and external links to FM Group.

Another one you have mentioned: offers a private beach, restaurant and marina... offers the possibility to buy real estate, giving buyers the opportunity to get a return on their investment by renting their property to visitors and so on, lots of opinions, not many real facts.

This is something that is a fact. In their resort there is a private restaurant, private beach, private marina and you can buy real estate to get a return on investment.

Nevertheless, I will definetely rephrase everything and leave details that sound promotional out. Could it be possible to get back the draft so I can edit from there as there were a lot of sources and links made to other wikipages which I believe would still be relevant.

Ariadnaroca1995 (talk) 11:55, 13 September 2019 (UTC) Hi Jim, I have just added the COI to my user page. Is it alright to access my draft again so I can keep editing, please?[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: FM Group (October 30)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chenzw was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Cited sources do not provide substantial coverage of the organisation.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:FM Group and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:FM Group, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Chenzw Talk 10:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ariadnaroca1995! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Chenzw Talk 10:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: FM Group (January 8)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CNMall41 were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

"Humble beginnings" is not an encyclopedic term. The history also leaves out the company's administration which I was able to find in an a quick online search. Both of these show the draft is not written from a WP:NPOV which is a requirement of Wikipedia. The references also do not meet WP:ORGCRIT which is the first hurdle this draft must meet.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:FM Group and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:FM Group, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

CNMall41 (talk) 00:22, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:FM Group concern[edit]

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:FM Group, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:22, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:FM Group[edit]

Hello, Ariadnaroca1995. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "FM Group".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 22:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:FM Group[edit]

Hello, Ariadnaroca1995. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "FM Group".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]