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RE: Bob Guccione

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If you really believe that is not a picture of Bob Guccione (though I can assure you it is), please leave the photographer a Message So that he many answer any questions regarding it. But please do not redelete the image from the article, unless you plan on replacing it with another free image of Bob Guccione. Thank you, and welcome to Wikipedia! Nar Matteru (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, if you really don't believe that to be Bob Guccione, take it up with the photographer, not me I did not take the photograph, label it, nor was I the original poster of said image. But do NOT remove the photograph from the article again.
As for the picture, its obviously the same person, aged a bit from the circa 1970s pic you posted in response, the resemblance is definitely there considering the ways most people age. But, if you really truly believe it not to be Bob Guccione, take it up with the photographer, he can answer any and all questions regarding the photograph as he is the one who took it.
I hope this incident will not discourage you from further editing wikipedia as disputes like this do occur even with seasoned wikipedians.
Again, Please talk to the photographer to get this matter resolved.
P.S. I have removed the vandalism warning from your talk page as it's quite clear you did not act in bad faith, but do not remove the photograph again unless you plan on replacing it. Nar Matteru (talk) 22:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are only citing your opinion as to whether or not the person in the images is the same or not. You have no evidence that the person in the picture is not Guccione. Corvus cornixtalk 22:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello? My opinion? My evidence is in the following links, which I mentioned already. These are not pictures of Bob Guccione circa 1970 as Nar Matteru mentions above. Look at this picture from 2007: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.observer.com/files/imagecache/article/files/Deeds-BobGuccione1V.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.observer.com/2007/bob-guccione-never-heard-him-you-re-milbank-mansion&h=374&w=250&sz=21&hl=en&start=1&sig2=u7tGaepI2H2WgkWHHTZqkA&um=1&usg=__HBhPcjNZNuKDSjVAakLf06d1Rms=&tbnid=5NngudIZcAincM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=82&ei=aCC3SKyxDpTQebyH-JUD&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbob%2Bguccione%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN And this picture from 2004: http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/n_9815/ --Artista32 (talk) 22:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring specifically to one you left on my talk page. Those still look older, especially considering he looks to be in his 40s in them, and he was born in 1930.

The wrong picture that you keep inserting from the blog is from 2007, the same year the picture from the New York Observer I have listed above is from. So suddenly he looks younger in those blog pics from 2007, than the New York Observer pic from 2007 and the 2004 pic from NY Mag? --Artista32 (talk) 22:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your repeated assertion that something is or is not true. Does not make it so. Corvus cornixtalk 22:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, according to the photographer's response on his talk page, he was right after all. This was nothing against you, I just felt (and steal do) that one should not remove a photograph one feels is wrong without speaking with the photographer. Now that he is spoken up and confirmed your suspicions, the picture will be removed from the article. Again, I hope this incident has not discouraged you from editing Wikipedia. Always sucks when a new editor gets into a dispute so early. But hey, look on the bright side, you get to say you were right, when somewhat more experienced Wikipedians were wrong :D
This is what I get for blindly thinking that even established photographers never make mistakes with labeling and sorting their shit before it gets online. Nar Matteru (talk) 03:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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