User talk:Aspensti/Archive1
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Your VandalProof Application
Dear Aspensti,
Thank you for applying for VandalProof! (VP). As you may know, VP is a very powerful program, and in fact the just released 1.3 version has even more power. Because of this we must uphold strict protocols before approving a new applicant. Regretfully, I have chosen to decline your application at this time. The reason for this is that at this time you do not meet the minimum requirement of 250 edits to mainspace articles (see under main here). Please note it is nothing personal by any means, and we certainly welcome you to apply again soon. Thank you for your interest in VandalProof. - Glen 20:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Concorde
The Wikipedia convention is that, at the very least, British English spelling is to be used for British articles.
Given the comment you removed explaining this, I can only consider your edit to be deliberate vandalism.
If you persist in vandalising the wikipedia, then I will contact Administrators with the aim of getting your account suspended.WolfKeeper 11:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Wolfkeeper, you were wrong to call it vandalism; it is only arguably vandalism if you neglect WP:AGF, which I know is sometimes hard. But it is in breach of a policy I already showed you, Aspensti, so you were wrong too. As I already said, Aspensti, please stop editing this article to U.S. English. Wolfkeeper got that right. It is obviously an article about a British topic, so quite correctly takes the British spelling. (copied to both talk pages) --Guinnog 00:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Stub template
What was your intention in creating Template:Mcgillicutty-stub? --Guinnog 11:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Fine, I've deleted it. --Guinnog 19:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Because as I've said at least three times to three different people (including Mitchazenia just yesterday), the infobox is not for listing every junction on the parkway. The infobox is meant to be just a quick summary of the route, and ideally less than one screen long. If you dispute the 10-junction limit, then you are more than welcome to join a more centralized discussion at WT:NJSCR. -- NORTH talk 22:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry my error. --ArmadilloFromHell 17:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Image tagging for Image:Richardchristy.jpg
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help
I need some help with something about an image. Maybe I am using the wrong tag or something.
- Please be more specific. Can you tell us where you are using the image, and what tag you are currently using, and what you are trying to achieve? Please put the {{helpme}} tag on this page when you reply. Cheers, Tangotango 15:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Heres the situation. I added an image to Richard Christy. The previous image showed 4 or 5 people, and was zoomed way out, you couldnt tell who was who. The person this article is written about is a personality on the Howard Stern Show. It has been discussed on the radio show about Richards promotional photo which was posted on the howard stern website, as well as Richard christys personal website, as well as richards personal myspace profile, which even includes code for you to use the image in question for promotional purposes. As I dont know who photographed the photo, I can not say who owns it, as I am sure its a combination of both Richard Christy and the photographer. HOWEVER, its already been pointed out that its a promotional photo used for this type of purpose. The tag I used was {{promotional}}. Some bot called me on not having a source, so I added 2 links to the aformentioned websites. Now there is some other tag on there and I dont know how to handle it. Perhaps I am using the wrong tag. Fill me in. Aspensti 15:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- The problem is not the wrong tag, but that someone thinks you may be using the wrong image. The promotional photo is non-free-use copyrighted, and Wikipedia tends to avoid using non-free-use copyrighted material. The Fair use criteria specify the circumstances in which using non-free-use copyrighted material is allowed, and a user believes that it fails the first criterion; that is, they think that it would be possible to find or create a free-use alternative (presumably, they think would be possible to take a photograph of Richard Christy and put that in Wikipedia instead, or to find someone who had taken such a photo and persuade them to use a free licence). Under the current image-deletion rules it will be deleted if noone finds a free-use version within a week; what licence was the previous image under? (If the previous image was free-use, you could try editing that to give a better view of the relevant person and using that instead, because free-use pictures can be edited.) As the template says, if you don't think it's likely that a free-use picture can be found you can change the {{Replaceable fair use}} on the image page to {{Replaceable fair use disputed}} to register your complaint. Hope that helps; feel free to ask me on User talk:ais523 or to put {{helpme}} back up if you have any further questions.
- The Original images that was up there, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bubba_visits_stern_2006-04-27.png, was a screen shot from Howard TV. Which is a pay service on digital cable. Howard Stern has mentioned numerous times on his radio show that he hates when his screen shots and clips are used on youtube and web sites like that or wikipedia. So, when the discussion about Richards promotional photo came up and how he LOVES the publicity, I figured what better picture could be used than the one he specifically had taken to use for promotional use and publications. Certainly a newspaper wouldnt need permission to use a publicity shot. I'll add the other template as I feel at this point, the only other shots available of Richard are on the Howard Stern website, which, though I know the name of the photographer, those photos are there for entertainment purposes on their website, not for things like this. Aspensti 00:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- The problem is not the wrong tag, but that someone thinks you may be using the wrong image. The promotional photo is non-free-use copyrighted, and Wikipedia tends to avoid using non-free-use copyrighted material. The Fair use criteria specify the circumstances in which using non-free-use copyrighted material is allowed, and a user believes that it fails the first criterion; that is, they think that it would be possible to find or create a free-use alternative (presumably, they think would be possible to take a photograph of Richard Christy and put that in Wikipedia instead, or to find someone who had taken such a photo and persuade them to use a free licence). Under the current image-deletion rules it will be deleted if noone finds a free-use version within a week; what licence was the previous image under? (If the previous image was free-use, you could try editing that to give a better view of the relevant person and using that instead, because free-use pictures can be edited.) As the template says, if you don't think it's likely that a free-use picture can be found you can change the {{Replaceable fair use}} on the image page to {{Replaceable fair use disputed}} to register your complaint. Hope that helps; feel free to ask me on User talk:ais523 or to put {{helpme}} back up if you have any further questions.
- Heres the situation. I added an image to Richard Christy. The previous image showed 4 or 5 people, and was zoomed way out, you couldnt tell who was who. The person this article is written about is a personality on the Howard Stern Show. It has been discussed on the radio show about Richards promotional photo which was posted on the howard stern website, as well as Richard christys personal website, as well as richards personal myspace profile, which even includes code for you to use the image in question for promotional purposes. As I dont know who photographed the photo, I can not say who owns it, as I am sure its a combination of both Richard Christy and the photographer. HOWEVER, its already been pointed out that its a promotional photo used for this type of purpose. The tag I used was {{promotional}}. Some bot called me on not having a source, so I added 2 links to the aformentioned websites. Now there is some other tag on there and I dont know how to handle it. Perhaps I am using the wrong tag. Fill me in. Aspensti 15:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
You might want to try the help desk. We at bootcamp are clueless. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 03:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you, I have posted on the help desk, I would appreciate it if I could get a simple answer to my problem here or there. Aspensti 13:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I've removed the {{helpme}} tag from this page, as you are requesting help on the help desk. Hope you don't mind. Cheers, Tangotango 15:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, I read your notice on the help desk. Have you tried to contact Christy from his website? If he's the owner on the copyright, you could try to get his permission to use it or ask him for a picture that he could freely release to the public. If he loves publicity as much as you say, this shouldn't be too hard to convince him. —Mitaphane talk 16:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Be careful that you ask for a release under a free licence and not just permission for Wikipedia; see Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission. --ais523 16:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
WP:FUC violation
Your recent change to Fergie (singer) was reverted because you violated WP:FUC. Please do not add copyrighted images to articles unless you provide a detailed fair-use rationale for their use. Thanks. --Yamla 21:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- no problem, corrected Aspensti 22:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Fergalicious cd.jpg
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Thanks for uploading Image:Fergalicious cd.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. When you use a generic fair use tag such as {{fair use}} or {{fair use in|article name}}, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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What are you talking about?
You said: "If you read the whole description page on Image:Fergalicious cd.jpg you can clearly see the rationale for fair use, its right there, Im not sure what more your looking for, if you look at all the other CD covers used on Fergie (singer) they all use simuliar rational and those images are fine, whats the difference?"
- As I have specifically pointed out, WP:FUC requires that the fair-use rationale specifically list which article it is for. The fair-use rationale for that image does not. If you find other images which also fail WP:FUC, please mark them appropriately. --Yamla 23:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of The Broker (truck)
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- This article needs nothing. There is a very small amount of information availvable about each individual Monster truck on the USHRA series. I created the article a number of years ago because I found an obvious absence. The article should remain, just because you dont find it notable doesnt mean that thousands of fans dont as well. Aspensti (talk) 05:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Star Wars invitation
I have noticed that you are listed as a member of the Star Wars WikiProject, which has been defunct for a long time. I would like to inform you that I am attempting to revitalize it. As such, I would officially like to invite you to participate in the project once again. If you are interested, please sign your name at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Star Wars#February 2009 Roll Call. Hope to see you soon! Firestorm (talk) 04:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Mob Wars
I have reverted your addition to the page. It may not be vandalism, but it violates the policy, WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not a game guide. Do not add it again, or I will seek administrative help. Wikipedia is not supposed to read like a guide of any type.— Dædαlus Contribs 04:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- See here.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Daedalus969 is correct from judging by this edit here. We don't place detailed minutiae about games in articles. You may also want to read Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Thank you, MuZemike 20:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Its not the edit or the article that I care about, its the principal...WP:NOT is revering to manuals or guides, walk through's, ect. What were discussing here is a summary, which in essence is the EXACT opposite of a step by step guide.Aspensti (talk) 20:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed. Re: this edit, no, I do not. Perhaps you should read the articles on Halo: Combat Evolved, and note that no where in the series of articles is there a list of weapons, the damage they do, their fire-rates, etc. By the way, a guide can be more than step-by-step instructions, it can be detailed information on weapons and items, which is not allowed here at WP, again per NOT.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Luckily, I don't really care. but the reason your using to enforce your version of the article isn't very clearAspensti (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, it is quite clear. Wikpedia is not a game guide, and that information is clearly guide like in nature. There is something you must remember, and that is that guides are not always step-by-step instructions. Have you ever read a game guide? They have more than instructions, they also have detailed information on weapons and items. This detailed information is not relevant here, and not allowed per WP:NOT. Please trust me, I've been here awhile longer, and I know the policies better. Look at any video game article and you will see the same, only in game-specific wikis, which are not apart of the WIkimedia Foundation, have that kind of detailed information.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, NO, I've been contributing here long than you have, I'm just here to add information and make corrections, not be the Wikipedia Police.Aspensti (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- But that is besides the point, please see here, where several others agree with me. The information addition is a violation of WP:NOT, end of story.— Dædαlus Contribs 21:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please see this edit, in which the admin whose page you posted a reply to agrees with me.— Dædαlus Contribs 02:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, NO, I've been contributing here long than you have, I'm just here to add information and make corrections, not be the Wikipedia Police.Aspensti (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, it is quite clear. Wikpedia is not a game guide, and that information is clearly guide like in nature. There is something you must remember, and that is that guides are not always step-by-step instructions. Have you ever read a game guide? They have more than instructions, they also have detailed information on weapons and items. This detailed information is not relevant here, and not allowed per WP:NOT. Please trust me, I've been here awhile longer, and I know the policies better. Look at any video game article and you will see the same, only in game-specific wikis, which are not apart of the WIkimedia Foundation, have that kind of detailed information.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Luckily, I don't really care. but the reason your using to enforce your version of the article isn't very clearAspensti (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Daedalus969 is correct from judging by this edit here. We don't place detailed minutiae about games in articles. You may also want to read Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Thank you, MuZemike 20:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
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RE:Madden Curse
The Madden Curse section has been the center of debate for over two years. The section originally had its own page at Madden Curse, but after a discussion on the article's talk page, “[1]”, three other experienced editors from the NFL projected voted to completely rewrite and redirect the article. The decision to redirect the article was strictly based on Wikipedia's policies, most notably WP:NPOV and WP:SYN. In a nutshell, simply listing injuries suggests that the curse exists, or establishes that there is a link between injuries and cover appearances. Mentioning various injuries and mishaps in the section creates a synthetic claim that the aforementioned correlation actually exists. As a result, the section was to only include a few brief examples of the alleged curse, and its perception in the media.
Last year, an IP, who was later permanently blocked for being a sock puppet, attempted to restore the elongated revision of the page. I reminded editors on the talk page that the revision was not only against the consensus, but also against Wikipedia's policies. I reverted the page after no one even bothered to comment in the discussion. Wikipedia is not a democracy, and has rule to regulate and maintain content. Granted, Wikipedia is not a Bureaucracy, editors are welcomed to discuss changes to material within the guidance and observation of policies. I apologize for not getting back to you immediately. I am a Grad Student and often swamped with class and real life work. Thanks for your understanding.-- StarScream1007 ►Talk 19:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
- The discussion on the talk page of the original Madden Curse [2] article it was decided to Merge the information with the Madden NFL article, not to remove it or reduce it. There is no reason to allow 2 references but not 6 or more. The "Madden Curse" is brought up every season because every season the player on the cover of the game gets injured. Its interesting and notable and based on most of the talk discussions, most editors find the information worthy. I'm not sure why you're going so far over this, all this information enriches the article and it harms no one. It also doesn't detract anything from that core of the article. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 21:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
- For all intents and purposes, lets continue this discussion on the Madden NFL talk page. It's pointless to continue the same discussion in two separate places. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 07:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- Very well, I will continue there —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 17:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- For all intents and purposes, lets continue this discussion on the Madden NFL talk page. It's pointless to continue the same discussion in two separate places. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 07:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
sig
My colleague, your sig is unreadable and confusing. Please consider changing it. DGG ( talk ) 00:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- With all due respect, I appreciate your opinion about my sig, but I like it that way it is. The font is Wingdings, if you mouse over the sections of it, you can see what the links are. Thanks for the notice though! —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 01:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Just so you know, Aspensti, in Firefox, and perhaps other browsers, it doesn't show up as a Wingdings kind of font, but as just perfectly readable text. Also, don't assume people can mouse over and see the links. I'm not totally sure mobile web browsers and the like do this. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 05:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
"grammar"
You converted "Black" to "black" in Kwanzaa, with the comment We're kidding right? Fixing poor (possibly intentional) grammar pertaining to the capitalization every time the word "black" is used.
Grammar and orthography are here unrelated, so your edit summary makes no sense. If you want to change "Black" to "black", explain why at Talk:Kwanzaa and get agreement before doing it. -- Hoary (talk) 23:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Black is a color or an adjective. Unless used in the title of a book or movie it is not a proper noun and therefor should not be capitalized. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 23:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Make your point at Talk:Kwanzaa, not here. And get agreement for it. -- Hoary (talk) 23:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Its really not something that needs approval or a consensus. Proper grammar is proper grammar. I didn't write the language. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 23:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Careful; you're now bordering on being disruptive to prove a possibly correct point, which is the wrong way to go about it. (But your grammar argument doesn't hold very well; "Black"-as-proper-noun vs "black"-as-adjective isn't really a grammar issue, it's a usage issue.) --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:40, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, even if its a usage issue, its being "used" incorrectly, and by me fixing it, I'm not being disruptive, I just editing the article so that it is correct and doesn't look as though it was written by a group of people who don't grasp the syntax of the English language. Oh look at that, I capitalized the E in English! —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 23:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- For somebody so keen to make orthographic choices that demonstrate an awareness of syntax, you demonstrate a beguilingly "maverick" pattern of apostrophe use. This is a minor delight in a talk page, but better avoided within articles. -- Hoary (talk) 00:28, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- You have a point about the subject? Or perhaps you're going to nit-pick everything to portray that I don't qualify to be fixing spelling or grammar errors? Either way, that has nothing to do with the incorrect usage of capital letters in Wikipedia articles. Your suggestion was to bring the subject up on the talk page, which I did, but I'm trying to find out from you why there should even be a discussion about it? —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 00:46, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- I look forward to your measured, thoughtful, and (where relevant) syntactically well informed comments on that talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 00:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- Are you actually an ass or do you just come off that way? —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 02:45, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you carry on making personal attacks I will block you from editing. Gwen Gale (talk) 03:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- Really? And I thought I was defending myself. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 21:34, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you carry on making personal attacks I will block you from editing. Gwen Gale (talk) 03:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- Are you actually an ass or do you just come off that way? —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 02:45, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- I look forward to your measured, thoughtful, and (where relevant) syntactically well informed comments on that talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 00:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- You have a point about the subject? Or perhaps you're going to nit-pick everything to portray that I don't qualify to be fixing spelling or grammar errors? Either way, that has nothing to do with the incorrect usage of capital letters in Wikipedia articles. Your suggestion was to bring the subject up on the talk page, which I did, but I'm trying to find out from you why there should even be a discussion about it? —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 00:46, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- For somebody so keen to make orthographic choices that demonstrate an awareness of syntax, you demonstrate a beguilingly "maverick" pattern of apostrophe use. This is a minor delight in a talk page, but better avoided within articles. -- Hoary (talk) 00:28, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, even if its a usage issue, its being "used" incorrectly, and by me fixing it, I'm not being disruptive, I just editing the article so that it is correct and doesn't look as though it was written by a group of people who don't grasp the syntax of the English language. Oh look at that, I capitalized the E in English! —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 23:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Careful; you're now bordering on being disruptive to prove a possibly correct point, which is the wrong way to go about it. (But your grammar argument doesn't hold very well; "Black"-as-proper-noun vs "black"-as-adjective isn't really a grammar issue, it's a usage issue.) --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:40, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Its really not something that needs approval or a consensus. Proper grammar is proper grammar. I didn't write the language. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 23:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Make your point at Talk:Kwanzaa, not here. And get agreement for it. -- Hoary (talk) 23:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
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