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Göktürks

Hi, i want to add the flag of Gokturks from the Turkish wiki but do not know how. Would you help adding the image? Cheers E104421 17:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. E104421 20:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, There is an image in the Turkish people article info-box shoving Fatih, Kanuni, Ataturk and Sezen Aksu. I propose instead of Sezen Aksu, it's better to insert an image of world-wide recognized Turkish musicians such as Pekinel sisters or Idil Biret ,... I tried to change the picture but failed, you can see from the edit history. If you agree, lets do it. If you're any other proposals, you're welcome! E104421 13:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I was blocked cause of edit warring on Eurasian nomads related articles. Now, turning back to the info-box. Yes, i also support the idea of having more woman in the info-box. Lets choose the candidates. In my opinion, Pekinel sisters, Ayla Erduran, Gulsin Onay, Yasemin Dalkilic (world record-setting free-diver), Sevgi Soysal (writer), Muazzez Ilmiye Cig (sumerolog), Sabiha Gokcen would be suitable. In addition to these, i also support having Aziz Nesin's photo. Regards. E104421 12:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Lets make the total number of images in the info-box twelve. My list is as follows 1.Mehmed II 2.Suleiman the Magnificent 3.Atatürk 4.Oktay Sinanoglu 5.Nazım Hikmet 6.Aziz Nesin 7.Sabiha Gökçen 8.Pekinel sisters 9.İdil Biret 10.Cahit Arf 11.Yasemin Dalkilic 12.Sebnem Ferah. I know the last two are very young but, i think, well-known. Otherwise, we could look for two Turkish woman from wiki-bio pages or reduce the number of images to ten. Actually, too many musicians are in the list. Any other proposals? Regards. E104421 13:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright, lets put the figures in order (to the birth date) 1.Mehmed II 2.Suleiman the Magnificent 3.Atatürk 4.Nazım Hikmet 5.Cahit Arf 6.Sabiha Gökçen 7.Aziz Nesin 8.Oktay Sinanoglu 9.İdil Biret 10. Pekinel sisters 11.Sebnem Ferah 12.Yasemin Dalkilic. I think it's ok. Cheers! E104421 21:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year! E104421 12:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, well done. Thank you for the images. Next time call me when you come back to our campus. I'm at the physics department you know. Cheers. E104421 02:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Protesto

Asagidakini Baristarim icin yazdim, paranoid yunan tohumu hemen sildi. Lutfen firsatiniz olunca benim talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:160.79.139.10&action=history, we netsnipe isimli kullanicinin gecmisindeki dialoga (asagida bakiniz). (cur) (last) 20:23, 10 December 2006 81.131.101.50 (Talk) (→Hi Kangroo Man - OH this is getting really interesting.)

Wikipedianin cok asagilayici karakteri nedeniyle kulturel yada bilimsel amacindan cok uzaklasarak toprak bolucu bir antiTurk proganda aletine donustugu cok asikar hepimiz icin (inanin benim hic bir politik, parti ve siyasi egilimim yok). Artik kendi liderlerimiz, sehirlerimiz ve tarihimiz hakkinda objektif yazmayi birakin, psikopatlarin empoze ettigi negatifleri duzeltemez durumdayiz. Ermeni yanlisi, boluculer yada yunanlilarla diplomatik diyalogunuzu cok olgun bulmakla beraber, bu kahpelerin tutumlarini burada ne iyilik nede kotulukle notralize etmek mumkun degil. Turk yoneticide ya yok yada ben bilmiyorum. Ataturk makalesinde yunanli koykoy itinin alkolle ilgili referansi ve ulu onderimizi asagilayan sozum ona psikaanalizleri kaldirmayinca onay vermis duruma dusuyor ve asagilanmayi kabul ediyoruz. Hicbirimiz bu sayfalarda artik olmazsak bence daha iyi olabilir. Topluca Wikipediayi protesto ederiz, tum dunya dogrulari daha dogru ve adil kaynaklardan okumak zorunda kalir.Bu itogluitlerle diyalog kurup bu sonuclara dusmek yerine tamamen cekilip kendi kendilerine gelin guvey olmaya birakmak daha serefli olur. Bu konuyu arkadaslara nasil yayariz. Ne dusunursunuz?213.122.87.160 21:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you keep an eye on..

Religion in Turkey? It was somehow chosen to be in the main page for today as "Did you know?", and has already started getting weird edits. I won't be able to be online for most of the day, so if you could add it on your watchlist, that would be great.. Cheers! Baristarim 06:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey s'up. Wait a minute before you change the Statistics to Statistical! I am aware of the problem, and in English Statistical doesn't make sense. It should be statistics, it is the website of the DIE who cannot speak good english: Devlet Istatistik Enstitusu, not Devlet Istatiskel Enstititu :) Baristarim 17:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Or it could be Turkish Institute of Statistics, I suppose. Baristarim 17:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, if they renamed it to TUIK, I suppose it could Statistics Board of Turkey...Baristarim 17:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, u r right. I should lay off being self-righteous I suppose :) it would have been nice if they hadn't used "Statistical", but it is still a good thing that they have a comprehensive English site all the same. Cheers! Baristarim 17:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

If we could find such statistics it would be nice. I suppose that the only solution that would remain otherwise is to stick to the actual version, and direct people to relevant articles for them to discover the debate on this issue. I understand the point of ethnicity figures not being included (you know why :)), but I suppose for religion I would have imagined that there would be at least some large-scale private surveys. I suppose the reasons are similar to one for ethnicities.. Thanks anyways.. Baristarim 20:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Metu

No worries, I was not sure about adding the whole list, I might later add some of the important ones with explanations e.g Atatürk's Thought Club, Turkish Folklore Club (THBT), Robot Society, IEEE and ILKYAR society. I will add the link of full list of societies to after these explanations. In fact, we can work together. Thanks Caglarkoca 21:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I have provided some information to the page on student societies on Middle_East_Technical_University#Student_Societies. The text is written by me, hence it is probably full of grammer mistakes. Can you check the grammer and the content and make the necessary changes. Thanks Caglarkoca 10:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Revert

Thanks for your revert in Turkey, this guy Mustapha has been trolling around in several different articles. Miskin 17:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

It appears that he constantly thinks that I'm trying to sabotage Turkey-related articles, thus he reverts blindly all my edits. Anyways I'm trying to get more links for the new article on Byzantine Greeks, formerly a poor section of Greeks. Cheers. Miskin 18:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Turkey

GA! Thanks a lot for taking care of the antiquity section. I was busy, u know, somewhere else in Wiki, and I neglected to look into this even though I knew the reviewer would pass by soon. And the reviewer said the FA is imminent! :)) Baristarim 09:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Really wanted to clean it up so that we wont even have editwars in the Turkey article! That was actually the case when I first came on Wiki. You are right about the Ataturk article, but I had thought that I would spend less time cleaning the Turkey article. I am sorry that it kinda forced up some work on the others! In any case that article is next up on the priority list. But the article is fairly good, and mostly need referencing work. Cheers!Baristarim 12:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Photoshop

I just wanted to ask you if you were good with photoshop. I would like to create a barnstar for WP Turkey to be listed in WP:Barnstars, but there needs to be a good image to go with it. Unfortunately I am not too good with graphics design and since you created some real nice maps, I thought maybe you might be the man for the job :) Cheers! Baristarim 01:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

By the way, this... :)) Baristarim 01:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Yep the FAC is going well! I was trying to kinda keep quite since I was expecting the worst, but because of this reason the article was in great shape I think. You know, things can get out of hand easily sometimes :) Hopefully we will get around to Ataturk soon...

Oh yeah, don't worry about the image at all. I was just curious really. I will try to find some suitable images. No rush though! Cheers! Baristarim 20:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Kukla

Mesajınız var... Khoi khoi 14:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Happy new year! I thought you wouldn't be back before mid-January, or is Wikipedia so unresistable? :) By the way, tx for showing up at the FAC the other day. Things are fine now, but I actually had to do clean up both on New year's Eve and New Year's! Things seem stable right now, and the only thing we might need is a semi-protect just to fend of anon sandbox and vandalism. I think that it will be on semi-protect for most of the time when it becomes FA. Cheers! Baristarim 00:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

You are right, Mustafa had told me the same thing some time ago. I think it is the same anon this time as well. I am sorry about my outburst. FAC, gerçek hayat falan derken epey bir stress oldum su son zamanlar. But I hear your concern, and you are right. I shouldn't fly off the handle like that :) Won't happen again... Baristarim 01:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire Map

How come you didnt add Zeila on to the Ottoman Empire map, Zeila was part of the empire as well Abdullah Geelah 13:50, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Diaspora

Nice work in sourcing Turkish diaspora:) Well done! it much have taken u quite a lot of time, but the article is really better now... I had requested for citations long ago, since boasting population numbers is always suspicious. Personally, i prefer double estimations, as in Greek diaspora, since no estimation can ever be considered accurate; just presenting to the readers the lowest and highest of the most reliable sources, and let them decide what to believe. Great job. Regards Hectorian 00:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Pardon, Turkish diaspora'daki senin en son editini gormemistim :) Baristarim 01:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, ok, i have not understood the message above:). Perhaps the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs also provides some relevant data. About Brazil, i will try to take a look myself, by combining excellent knowledge of Latin and negligible knowledge of Portuguese LOL. I think it is clear enough for the english speakers that the term "Turkish diaspora" would never refer to e.g. the Uzbeks. apropos, as far as i know, there are no diaspora articles referring to families of ethnic groups, so, i doubt that there would be any misunderstandings... Hectorian 01:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Dogru.. Aksam aksam nelerle ugrasiyoruz :) Baristarim 01:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

According to the 1991 census, the Turkish minority formed approximately the 50% of the Muslim minority in Thrace, plus about 2,000 in the Dodecanese. This would mean about 60-70,000 today (the sources in the respective articles' external links). but i've chosen not to add a fact tag in the 90,000 figure, nor to dispute that number, since, as a Greek myself, this would seem suspicious:) Hectorian 01:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I tried to find a number for the Turks in Brazil, but seems that i did not make it... The word "Turco" (Portuguese for "Turk") appears a lot on the net, but it mostly has to do with a town (or whatever) in Brazil and with the Arab immigrants who went there during the Ottoman times... I also used a brazilian governmental page in which i had seen the number of the Greeks and of their descendants in Brazil, but it seems to have been modified since the last time i visited it, and i cannot navigate there well (cause of lack of knowledge of the language). hope u will find info in Turkish sources. Ciao Hectorian 02:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I am in the same time zone as your homeland:). the number of Turks in Greece was not such a political problem in Greece in the past, but it became, for obvious reasons, after 1955 and 1964. since i have friends who study/ied in the Democritus University of Thrace, i happen to know much about the land and its people, Christians and Muslims alike. if u need help in translating anything from Greek, just let me know:). Have a nice sleep Hectorian 02:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Main page entry

I just saw your post, and on a closer look I think that you are right. It was too late when I prepared the entry, and unfortunately I think I did a haphazard job. I think that the next round of selection won't be until next week, so it can still be modified. Modify it as you see fit, no problems :)) Baristarim 17:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

What's up.. Up late? Or woke up early? :) Hey, should I go ahead and try to modify the main page entry or would you like to take a shot? We still have some time though before the next selections... Cheers! Baristarim 04:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, no worries. I will try to do it later today. Baristarim 05:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire map

Hi Atilim, i have spotted an innacuracy on the map. Cyprus was conquered in 1571 by Selim II, the current map indicates it was annexed in the 15th century. Thanks, --A.Garnet 01:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem, keep up the great work. --A.Garnet 01:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Europe Location TUR2

Merhaba kardes, kusura bakma bunu yanlis yere koyuyorsam, pek fazla insanla konusmuyorum wikipedia'da. Neyse, I just wanted to let you know that the TUR2 map located here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Europe_location_TUR2.png is really really nice, thank you very much for creating it! :)

Selam. -- Fatih Kurt

Portal:Turkey

Hi could you help with the code? In order to be a featured portal we need shorter summary of featured articles and now that i made it shorter theere is a huge gap between the featued article and the featured picture... and I dfont kow how to overlap it. To fill the gap the featured pictures and Did you know part should be moved up and lined under each other. Could you please do that for me? Thanks a bunch, cok tesekkürler. --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 12:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for the review

To explain myself; I begin from reading Good article review that Baristarim initiated. I personally thought that this review is biased but some points are undeniable. 1) article needs citations. 2) There are things that you can not escape, such as is a reform a "good reform" or a "bed reform". Musatafa Kemal page should tell (like other featured biographies) "what he did" "why he did" with citations. It is at the end life story of this person. If you look Atatürk's reforms page I already presented some facts with citations and graphics that I found in the wikipedia to cover the Good article review] position regarding literacy. I have created (People's Houses) page which can develop more, and the Atatürk Centennial really needed its own page, so that people can search and find. Centennial is by itself an event. Hope you can see the positive sides; find the mistakes and fix it (improve it); or tell me so that I might work on those issues. --OttomanReference 19:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

commons:User:AtilimGunesBaydin

I assert to be the same user as commons:User:AtilimGunesBaydin Atilim Gunes Baydin 18:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

WPTR Small

Thank you so much!!! --Free smyrnan 08:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Question, is it possible for the small version to not show the To-Do list? --Free smyrnan 08:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Truly thanks! I think it is a big improvement! --Free smyrnan 20:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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World Heritage infobox in Chaco Culture National Historical Park article

Hi! Someone keeps on deleting the World Heritage infobox in the said article, saying that it's full of "infocruft". I forwarded the case already for mediation. If you are interested, please drop by the mediation article (see here) or the talk page of the article to express your opinion. Thanks. Joey80 09:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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House of Virgin Mary

Hi Atilim, I just posted some edits to the 'Discovery' section of House of Virgin Mary. You have reversed some of my changes. Can we discuss this? Tencents 02:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC) (dualmonitors@gmail.com)

Nice improvements, I like the new photographs - wish I could see the red line you refer to (it's not there even in the high res image), and "restorated" should be "restored" or you could replace "restorated part" with "restoration". Tencents 14:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

OK Atilim, I'm done. You still need to correct the photo titles, including the first one, and in your Archaeology section, the restoration date is wrong. The building is recorded as still roofless in 1949. Orginal restoration was undertaken by Sr. Marie de Mandat-Grancey, head nurse of the French hospital at Izmir, during the 1890's. She actually bought the property and owned it until 1910. So the major restoration was done in or around 1950, when the Turkish government put in the access road and international pilgrimages really began. Two other small points, which I offer for your meditation: It's not really a restored chapel, it's a restored home that is now a shrine. The second is that the Romans and Orthodox don't really have an argument about the fact of the body of Mary being taken to Heaven. What they argue about - which is difficult to believe but it's true - is the actual mechanics of her assumption... whether the body was assumed WITH the soul or whether the lifeless (dormant) body was assumed and reunited with the soul in Heaven. So we all agree, She was taken up into Heaven, body and soul. So you could simply say: "... and lived there until she was taken up into Heaven."

Blessings upon you. Tencents 15:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Final point: When you search 'house of the virgin mary' (lower case) you get 'no page with that title exists'. Is it possible for you to fix that? It would be nice if other search queries could find the page too, like 'house of mary' etc. As to me doing those changes? OK. I'll try to get to it. You've been there? Wish I had! Tencents 15:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm amazed how on the ball you are with respect to the changes I make. You don't seem to miss a thing, which is impressive! 'Citation needed' (on the 1950 date)... it's on the way, but it will take a few days. (AND THANK YOU... for making the search work for lower case!) Tencents 01:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice beginning, your article on the Church of Mary. Yes, I would like to work with you on that. Allow me introduce myself a bit: I'm looking for work at the moment so I've got some time to spare. When you are young, life is uphill... I'm on the downhill bit! Skills? English (highly literate), general history, Biblical history, research. With a project like this we can only do the best we can do, with the resources that we have. That first article (House of the Virgin Mary) is still far from perfect BUT between us we have managed, I think, to significantly improved it. And that IS an achievement. If we can do that for the Church of Mary, I will be very happy. What about yourself? Do you speak the language (Turkish), because I called Izmir yesterday (archdiocesan office 90+(0232)484.05.31) to find out what they had on Meryem Ana Evi, hoping that someone would speak English, but I was out of luck. Their records would be the definitive account, by the way, because it was the archbishop (from 1879-1909) Andrea Timoni, who supervised the rediscovery in 1891 and the validating research work, that became the basis for Rome's acceptance of the site. Do you work for Wikipedia, like are you paid for what you do? Tencents 14:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

And how do you upload images?Tencents 15:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Waiting for your reply Tencents 18:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Hope you did well! 24.235.210.123 21:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Niksar

When you have time, I would like you to read the article. In my opinion article is not encyclopedic and resembles a homework. However I am not so bold to revert it back and in fact not in favor of a full revert. I would be glad when you have some time to read and tell me your opinions about it. See you,--Ugur Olgun 16:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for response and for your comment on webpage. I forgot quiz grades there. For Niksar article, I will also try to improve it when my midterms are over.--Ugur Olgun 18:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Turkic alphabets

You're cordially invited to join the discussion here. Regards. E104421 23:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

note, I've made Turkic alphabet a disambiguation page now. dab (𒁳) 15:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your support of the need for the "Turkic alphabets" article. The present scholarship and findings of the last decades opened huge layers of the inscriptions, and supprted the analises made by Malov and Scherbak in the middle of the last century, that the alphabets used by Turkic peoples in different times were distinct alphabets used in different states in different combinations. The redirect and merge attempt amounted to deletion of the contents without proper public scrutiny. In the course of content dispute, I restored the article, and intend to add references to the various corpuses of inscriptions. Barefact 07:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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Turkic historical linguistics

Thanks, I'm looking forward to your contributions. My Proto-Turkic stub is still very shoddy, and you shouldn't rely on the phonological information too much (it's extremely contracted at best). I haven't been able to find a reasonable date estimate for Proto-Turkic (that is, the last common ancestor of the known Turkic languages, viz., Rona-Tas's "Proto-Turkic₀"), but I suppose the mid 1st millennium BC will come close. For this reason, it would be extremely interesting to evaluate claims that the Issyk inscription may be Turkic, since it would date close to Proto-Turkic, but so far I've found no reasonable proponents of the claim (just the "Turko-Sumerian in 4000 BC" crowd, which should of course be disregarded completely in sane linguistic debate). Regards, dab (𒁳) 15:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you note

Thank you for your support, and appreciation on how much the Admin who tries to run the show is misguided. I hope we can bring the WP level to where it should be. Barefact 02:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Istanbul

Hi, you may want to comment on the large number of photos being added to this article. Thanks, --A.Garnet 21:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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On attribution in general

The free encyclopedia idea is good and I support it. There is obviously some substantial money behind Wikipedia and I would be vaguely interested to know 'who', and what their agenda is, but the chances of honest disclosure in that area would be very low. The original encyclopedists of the Enlightenment certainly had an agenda and encyclopedias are far too powerful in the shaping of culture to be ignored by the 'movers and shapers'... as it were. But that apart, I don't mind what their agenda is, so long as a window is left open to publish the truth.

You said that: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is whether material is attributable to a reliable published source, not whether it is true." That's brilliant sophistry, Atilim, but it just doesn't happen to be valid. Once the correlation between "reliablility" and "truth" is lost - which is rapidly happening in many fields in our society - that rule would allow absolutely anything to published as 'fact', regardless of it's truthfulness, based on the brute power (I.e. 'credibility') of the published opinion, so that the Wiki would become nothing more than An Encyclopedia of Modern Superstitions - to which I am not much interested in contributing. No, the REAL threshold for inclusion is whether it is true, which one substantiates by attribution to credible sources. It is true, for example, that Mary lived in the house at Ephesus, which we can know from the mystical revelation, the attitude and approval of the Church and the scientific evidence of history, archaeology, social anthropology, etc.

I'm not personally too much interested in colating other people's opinions, like some Dickensian clerk. What I want to do, and what you probably want to do, which is part of our inate human creative impulse, is to shed a little light, bring what is true into focus, contribute some original thought to the store of human knowledge. Without that 'mission', the work - all our human work - would be clerical in the extreme and completely uninteresting.

The uphill downhill analogy is not 'ageist', it's one that models life quite well I think. It comes from my own experience in mountaineering. You struggle to the top, full of dreams and optimism. You reach the summit and savour the moment. It's a wonderful feeling... but then it's time to go down. It's not the climb, it's not the summit, or the view or the feeling that really makes life what it is. That's all the 'self willed' part, the boast, the independent man doing it his way and trying to make his ego's mark. But the downhill gives you time to reflect on what it's really all about and a chance to try to make some adjustments.

OK, on the Turkish phone call subject, I was not intending to use a phone call as a 'source'... give me credit!!! The point of that was that the Archdiocese would have the original historical records, which I would like to get hold of, but I don't speak Turkish. I was hoping that they could at least direct me to the best published English version of the facts, that was all.

On the Church of Mary, I'm checking our local university library for material. I'll see what I can find and get back to you with it. Sound good? And by the way, thanks for your very helpful explanations.

Tencents 15:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I made contact with Dr Mark Wilson in Izmir, a biblical historian, so I'm getting some interesting info. He knows a bunch of archaeologists as well. Tencents 14:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Omni Consumer Products

I based my OCP logo seen in RoboCop 3 on your Image:OmniConsumerProductsLogo.png image. Good stuff!

Katt 6:25 AM, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Turkish Language

Well done on GA status, great work. --A.Garnet 21:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

		Turkish Barnstar of National Merit
		For your efforts in getting Turkish Language to GA status! Free smyrnan 06:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So it is a GA then. Well done! And I am happy that, though from Greece, I have helped a little bit on an article on Turkish language, even if only by suggestions. --Michkalas 13:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Great work!! I just noticed that Turkish language became GA :)) I am sorry that I couldn't help out more, I was really busy and had to stay away from the Internet for weeks basically. However I will take a look again at that article if I can help out with anything. Cheers! Baristarim 19:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your endless contributions. Tebrikler! - Baristarim 19:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

No worries :) Just keep up the good work! It is nice that we can diversify the articles and improve a wide range of them. So how is it going otherwise? Baristarim 23:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I hear you :) When I get in front of the computer the time seems to fly!

By the way, I was just perusing the Turkish language article and I really think that it can make FA, also because it is not a controversial political article, but more a technical and academic one. I just ran into a good and serious survey published in Milliyet about the linguistic and ethnic repartition in Turkey (the first serious one since the 1965 census actually). I posted the link at Talk:Turkey, but there it is: [1]. I will use it to update the demographics section at Turkey and related articles over time, but we can also use it for Turkish language, and if we put some more pictures and copyedited the article many times the article can become FA. Maybe we can submit it to peer review soon.. Baristarim 02:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! I agree with Baris BTW, Turkish language has FA potential. As for 'memleket' :-), I am from Izmir, but live in Istanbul. Cheers! --Free smyrnan 12:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I have left some comments as to some steps forward to make "Turkish language" a FA here. I do not speak the language and I am not really aware of the its linguistics, but just some ideas from my experiece in Wikipedia and my backround in linguistics. All the best! --Michkalas 14:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

atılım

♦kardeşim çalışmaların için seni kutlarız .isveçe selam jönköpinge gidecem bende seneye neyse hadi eyw —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lilybaeum (talk • contribs) 18:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Turkey

Hey Atılım, both is fine, but it appears another admin has already protected it. As you can see from the edit history of Armenia, thse semi-protection won't work, because he's been hacking into old accounts. The article was tagged with {{sprotected2}}, although the semi-protection had expired. Now the article is re-protected however. Khoi khoi 23:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire map

Hello,

I just came across your map of the Ottoman Empire. If you look closely, Corfu is included in the Empire, and it was not (I'm planning to use the map for an article about the History of Corfu). It's just a detail. I just wanted you to know. Thanks for the great map otherwise. --Cedric B. 14:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey

Having a debate at Kurds in Turkey about the latest survey. I have a hard time convincing people that a nation-wide March 2007 survey that includes precise percentages is better than the CIA Factbook which includes unsourced vague rounded numbers like 80-20. Similar thing at Turkish language.. Baristarim 01:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

OECD graph

Hy Atilim. Thanks for updating the graph. I don't know what happened to Greece and Turkey. It's been a long time since I made this graph, but it was certainly not a conscious choice of mine to omit them. Thanks again! Phils 01:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Images

Hi... Turkey article became unprotected, but five images have been deleted in the mean time (we should make a mental note never to use those wowturkey images in that article because they keep on getting deleted due to the ambigious copyright status). So which pictures do you think we should put back in? cheers Baristarim 06:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Moving Denial of the Armenian Genocide

RE:Hi

Hallo Atilim, thanks for your nice post! Actually, as you surely noticed, my contributions are somehow incomplete, since I could barely find infos about the history of these Mosques after the Conquest. So, if someone could contribute to finish them, would be welcome!

Vale ;-), Alex2006 08:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Check e-mail box

--Doktor Gonzo 16:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Replaced loanwords

Hi. I've made some corrections & left a few comments at Talk:List of replaced loanwords in Turkish. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 11:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Turkish language is FAC

Hi, Atilim, User:Uannis has nominated Turkish language for Feature Article Candidate. I thought i'd let you know, i left a note on WP:Turkey as well. Thanks, --A.Garnet 19:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Turkish language

Hi. I've made a few changes to the Sounds section, as well as some suggestions on Talk:Turkish language‎. Good luck with the FAC! --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 09:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Atilim, I was going to do that, I was in a hurry at that moment. I'll do it now. Deniz^T_C 12:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Turkish language -- language icons for sources

Hi Atilim! For Sandy's criticism regarding language markers in citations, just wanted to share this with you: The citation templates don't always treat the language attribution in the same fashion and it sort of looks ugly. I solved this in Hrant Dink by using {{cite....}}{{tr icon}}. It gives it a much more consistent look & feel. Did not want to change it w/o letting you know, but I think it may be better here as well. Regards, Free smyrnan 05:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Conversion done. And thanks for your kind words. I am still re-writing the article and will ask for input once text is in place, before moving on to FAC. Regards, Free smyrnan 20:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Turkey problems

Hey Atilim, thanks for the notice about the mistake with Turkey. Can you please check if it's OK now? – Riana _ऋ 15:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Not at all! I was angry enough at myself, I absolutely don't blame you for being mad! I was having lots of computer problems last night, and somewhere something must have gone funny. I'm not sure what, but I do know I won't try anything of the sort on this laptop ever again :) – Riana _ऋ 17:25, 29 April

2007 (UTC)

Turkish diaspora

Atilim, I think Fearlessdog is just trying to have the table similar to the tables on some other diaspora articles. Certainly diaspora wouldn't cover Turks in Turkey, but many diaspora articles with tables include them (but your version includes Turks in Turkey as well). It gives a good information. Other than that, I don't know, both versions are good. Let me combine them. Deniz^T_C 22:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Congrats for FA

Congrats for FA status for Turkish language!!! Regards, Free smyrnan 14:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations from me too! - and thank you for mentioning me, though my contribution was limited to some suggestions.--Michkalas 10:36, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed this above my comment that I added about you helping us out on Wikinews. Congratulations. The bad news is that as a result of this I'll bookmark your userpage as someone I can pester about stuff based off Turkish sources. I don't think this means I'll bug you often, but you're welcome to come bug us over on Wikinews. --Brianmc 21:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Well done! A gratifying result, thanks to your team leadership. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 22:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Request a little help on Wikinews

Hello, I followed a chain of links through the turkish language page to get here. We've an article, Turkish newspaper alleges coverup in Hrant Dink case that could do with a couple of things checked on it. First, that it isn't a straight translation from Radikal - that's a sort-of copyvio. Second that it agrees with the sources I can't read.

If you've the time [or anyone who monitors this talk page and knows Turkish] can you look into this? Leave me a note on the article talk, or my talk. Thanks! --Brianmc 08:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to stop by and say thank you for giving me a hand with that article on Wikinews. Seeing as you went to all the trouble of setting up an account perhaps you might like to use it. We're a small community and members of the friendly tribe. --Brianmc 21:18, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry

this was a mistake. Thank you for fixing it. Bertilvidet 15:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire map

Hey. I just wondered if there was any progress on your fixing of the issues in the Ottoman Empire map that I pointed out here. I can provide textual sources if you'd like (there are plenty in Habesh, as well, and I can give you specific pages from those). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 03:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Take your time. Don't let Wiki interfere with your schoolwork, the map can wait. Again, Tesekkür ederim ;) I was really surprised and happy to see your comment in Amharic; it's actually T'ena yist'ilign, but I was impressed nonetheless. I had to look up "thank you" in Turkish online. Sadly, I just know a few random terms like iltizam and beylerbeyi and those also in Arabic like defter. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 06:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Help needed

Is it possible to improve Sunay Akın, Sheikh Bedreddin; (grammar, content etc.).Regards.Must.^T ^C 17:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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How to create map?

Hi I noticed the blank map you have created for Turkey at Image:BlankMapTurkeyProvinces.png. Can you teach me how to create a similar map for Pakistani provinces and districts? Shinas 19:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Alleged Turkic flag

Greetings. I left a question for you here. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 20:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:TurkishPeople.jpg

Hi. Somebody replaced Pekinel sisters with Tarkan. Is it possible to upload your version? I accidentally pressed the (rev) button and made things even worse. I appreciate your help. Regards. E104421 18:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Turkish Scouting

Thank you so much for your improvement and building this article! I will have some questions later, I haven't gotten much time recently. Çok teşekkür ederim! Chris 21:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your kind words, that is so nice! About Ahmet and Abdurrahman Robenson, the family name sounds English, what is the story there? I hyperlinked all the names, turns out there is a bio for Ethem Nejat, totally not what I was expecting! Chris 02:49, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Transcontinental country

Hello! There iare someone to change Greece to fully European and Malta from North Africa to South Europe. There are similar things in continent templates (asia,africa,europe) Can you please take a look? Sincerely User talk:Zaparojdik10:57 1 August 2007 (UTC)