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Your submission at Articles for creation: Petzone (August 27)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Timtrent were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Two prior deletions at AfD.Remains non notable.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:25, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Petzone (August 31)[edit]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: WP:ROTM

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September 2023[edit]

Hello Averus19. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Draft:Petzone, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Averus19. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Averus19|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:52, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So upfront, no I am not in anyway being compensated directly or indirectly for creating this draft. I'm just a writer looking to add Wikipedia Article creation to my resume and this topic felt notable enough to tackle. I live in Kuwait and there is a real lack of prominent Kuwait-based companies on the site. I started by going through this page - (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Kuwait) and found it only really covers companies of the country that are either banks or in the economic sector. The subject matter (Petzone) is really quite large and making a presence around the region so a wiki page for them sounded (for me) doable and interesting. Also went through these articles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeel) and (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taw9eel) and found them lacking substance.

I know my own draft needed more notability but I just (ignorantly) assumed that would be a gradual process where I or other editors would add to the topic over time instead of having every single aspect of the subject already available initially.

I hoped the User who reviewed and rejected my draft (for not being notable enough) would go through my edits but since you have asked to answer here first I shall. If this all sounds good and genuine should I speak directly with the previous User and ask them to review my edits? I am really trying to make this draft work before trying my hand at another topic. Averus19 (talk) 12:22, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you understand notability yet. You cannot add notability. A subject is either notable, or it is not. The Wikipedia community has concluded that this company is not notable. Move on and find another topic to write about. Writing about companies is difficult - try writing about a geographical place, or a historical event, instead? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Petzone[edit]

Hello, Averus19. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Petzone, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 08:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]