User talk:Bagumba/sandbox2

"To assess whether this should remain a standalone template or not."

No, Bags, that is not what the WP:CFB discussion on my user talk page was about. Not one bit. And it is exactly why I started the discussion among WP:CFB members in the first instance -- to clarify the needs for CFB player articles, not create a new "American football biography" infobox.

The purpose was not to bias the conversation in favor of another all-in-one template like "basketball biography" that tries to do too much and emphasizes pro careers at the expense of college careers for players who were only or primarily notable for their college careers. If your goal is to create an environment to facilitate the merge of the CFB and NFL player infoboxes, I do not support that. For the many consensus All-Americans and other notable CFB players who never played pro ball, the NFL-specific parameters need to be excluded from those available, and that is best accomplished by maintaining separate templates.

Furthermore, I had wanted to present a proposed new template, complete with updated coding and graphics, for !voting an consensus approval on either the template or WP:CFB talk page. That is already in the works, and is the reason why I have not presented anything in template and WP:CFB talk space yet. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:42, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dirtlawyer1: I'm not hell-bent on merging infoboxes, but I remain unconvinced that separate infoboxes are needed. I'm only one person, so I'm OK to ride with consensus. If I needed the final say, I'd be hosting my edits somewhere else and not on WP. Your gathering CFB requirements on what is needed in an infobox is fine. No problem with it having been invite only. However, I believe the implementation of the infobox should be an open process. I don't see any benefit in treating the merge option as the elephant in the room. I only see a win-win of doing a bake-off on implementation options. An open discussion would provide transparency of why one implementation was chosen over another, and quelch the need for any more contentious TfDs. So I am proposing that we collaborate on presenting the template needs to the project. I am fairly certain the two of us can balance the project needs and the technical concerns to reach the optimal solution.—Bagumba (talk) 23:58, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]