User talk:Benjamin Loomes
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[edit]Hello, Benjamin Loomes, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Syrinscape, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Syrinscape
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A tag has been placed on Syrinscape, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:51, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Syrinscape
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If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.
A tag has been placed on Syrinscape, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:37, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- After you asked me about making the page neutral, I moved it to draft space. You then created it again in article space, which seems to me to indicate that you are not really trying to work collaboratively to make it neutral. I have tagged the version in article space for deletion again. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:39, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- Both copies of it have been deleted. I am not really sympathetic. Although you said that you would appreciate help in making it neutral, you then re-created it in article space within minutes after I moved it to draft space. Why? Evidently your real interest was to develop the version that was as promotional as you could get away with, rather than creating a truly neutral version. You said that you would be getting the help of some more experienced editors. Did you mean editors who work with you? Read the conflict of interest policy. If you really had wanted the help of truly neutral experienced editors, you could have taken my advice to ask at the Teahouse. You evidently thought that my advice, which was intended to help you get it as close to neutral as an editor with a conflict of interest could, wasn't promotional enough. Well, it is gone. Both copies have been deleted. You can ask to have it sent to you by email or in user space at Requests for Undeletion, but that request is likely to be declined, because requests to restore spam are usually declined. I guess you didn't like my advice. You would have been better off to follow my advice. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:44, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Yeah. Sorry for everything! Just general unfamiliarity on my part! I just misunderstood how the 'draft' thing worked. I thought there was a flag that hid it or something similar, but I now see the url is different. Such unfamiliarity with how things work here indicate I should stay away for the moment. I'll leave this for now and let someone else start the page when they see fit. There is a link on Paizo's big Starfinder page so there are lots of people who probably know what they are doing going through there! Thank you for being civil despite my apparent defiance! Benjamin Loomes (talk) 22:20, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Username and COI
[edit]I noticed that you used "we" in your posts to Robert McClenon. Please note that usernames cannot be shared. If by "we" you mean that you represent the business that you are writing about, you need to as soon as possible review the conflict of interest policy (WP:COI) and the paid editing policy(WP:PAID) if you are editing as part of your job or otherwise being paid to edit here. 331dot (talk) 17:30, 12 September 2017 (UTC)