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A barnstar for you![edit]

The Civility Barnstar
Just thought you deserved this for your ability to keep so calm and make considered points even others make bizarre points and conduct themselves in a less than satisfactory manner. Shakehandsman (talk) 23:35, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! That is really too cool. Thank you good sir! Boneyard90 (talk) 14:53, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It would be even cooler if situations hadn't arisen whereby there was the need for your qualities to be tested in this way. My philosophy is to try to create something positive out of a bad situation and I encourage others to do the same.--Shakehandsman (talk) 20:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
True, the other editor seems quite displeased in several ways, and determined to change the article for reasons I can't fully comprehend. But you have a good outlook, and I'll try to keep that in mind in the future if I encounter another civil editor. Boneyard90 (talk) 01:23, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if you noticed but I've actually been away from Wikipedia for some time as I found all the harassment I was suffering a bit too much. Anyway I'm attempting a return now and I just wanted to say thanks for keeping an eye on things in my absence.--Shakehandsman (talk) 04:21, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I noticed. It's good to see make another go at it. As someone once told me, 'Don't let the bastards wear you down'. Welcome back. Boneyard90 (talk) 11:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Military Historian of the Year[edit]

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Anna Letenská[edit]

Hello Boneyard90. Thanks for your edits and comments at this article (I'm the creator). In your edit summaries, you talk about POV and 'drama language'. Let me explain that. During my work, I used mainly the book Mraky nad Barrandovem (Clouds over Barrandov), describing the participation of Czech filmmakers in the Protectorate. The author, Stanislav Motl, is a well known researcher in my country (among other things, he publicized the case of "der schöne Toni" and other improperly investigated WWII cases). He writes in a bit 'dramatic' and 'emotional' style (see my comments at Talk:Anna Letenská) and it is quite possible (actually, it is quite logical) that his interpretation influenced my article. I just want to remind that phrases such as 'brutal investigation' or 'disappeared forever' are exactly what my sources claim, not my POV. Such a wording is maybe not appropriate for an encyclopedic article, and I do not object to your corrections, but I want to make it clear that I edit in accordance with my sources. I always want to tell lively stories, not describe dry facts.

I've changed the wording from 'brutal' to 'sharpened interrogation', as it is a better term (cited by another good source, the article by The Institute for the Study of Totalitarian Regimes, p. 107, in Czech "zostřený výslech"). I hope it is more clear now. I linked the term to the relevant section of the article Enhanced interrogation techniques (which is, by the way, not very good (IMO)). I asked some questions (also related to Letenská's story) at Talk:Enhanced_interrogation_techniques#The_lead_section_of_this_article_and_other_things.

As for the claim that "they were taken to the camp bathrooms where they were handed over to the mercies of privileged criminal inmates", there's quite a good description of the situation in the article by The Institute (p. 112). Unfortunately, their interpretation is, similarly as Motl's, a bit emotional and they do not say who testified that the event really happened (the article is otherwise very well sourced). They don't talk about specific rapes and tortures, everything is hidden behind vague claims, such as "laments and cries of tormented Czech women, along with the inhuman scream [of privileged criminal inmates], will resonate in the dark bathroom for many years". Basically, the article says they where forced to undress and after that they were handed over to the mercies of privileged criminal inmates. I don't think it is particularly problematic but I may reword if you wish.

Thanks for your interest in the article. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for taking the time to write. I can appreciate the effort it took to write the article, and influence another writer's style has on your own. I can also appreciate a good story, but as this is an encyclopedia, facts must take precedent. You're right though, your version is much less dramatic than your source. I have my own issues with terms like "brutal", which is really a "weasel word". The news media often uses it, such as "brutal murder", but I mean, are there any murders (or interrogations) that are kind and gentle? Maybe, but not many.

Then there is the "mercies" of the guards, which I believe is a euphemism for rape, and maybe beating someone; but as a reader, I should not have to guess. The author of a book can be vague, if he likes, because even if those women weren't beaten and raped by "privileged prison guards", I'm sure many others were. Also, a writer can leave it vague to cover himself if he doesn't have facts, to make a good story, and after all, our own imaginations are sometimes much more terrible than reality.

I'm sure in other respects, the accounts are fine, but let's consider this: if the women were handed over to be raped by prison guards, how did this information become known? All the women were executed, and neither the guards (whether inmates or Nazis) wouldn't tell. If they had told, such as at a war-crimes trial, then the authors would have cited this, right? It would lend much more credibility to the account. Authors may have implied rape/torture because that is what was commonly done, without knowing if it was specifically done in the case of Letenska, though of course, we can be confident that it was probably done.

I guess my issue with the term "mercies of", because its use here implies rape/torture, there is obviously nothing "merciful", right? Which means the term is inaccurate. Perhaps, "turned over to the guards for their amusement". If I have other ideas for more accurate wording, I'll bring them up. But, I am glad that we can co-operate amicably for the improvement of the article. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:13, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite surprised over the dramatic tone of the article published by The Institute for the Study of Totalitarian Regimes; I would expect a less heartbreaking description by a serious scientific institution. But otherwise, they did a great job, and the information is very useful.
I think that your suggested wording ("turned over to the guards [or rather to privileged criminal inmates, as it is what the source states] for their amusement") is a good description and corresponds well with the source. It is probably more clear than the current version. I'll change the claim in the article. I appreciate your careful insight, thank you. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXX, January 2012[edit]

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Death[edit]

Do you want to help bring death to good article status? Pass a Method talk 12:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... First, thank you for writing with your offer. Not sure I'm able to commit to a GAN right now, as far as researching and sources and time frames, etc. I'm a PhD student, so my time is pretty taken up already. All I do on Wikipedia these days is light editing and assessing as a way to blow off a few minutes. Mostly what I can do for the article is try to help keep the language neutral and academic, spot grammar inconsistencies, that sort of thing. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:24, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But I have to ask, why are you writing: "All organisms, including humans..."? It's redundant. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see why its redundant, but its relevant because a lot of myths describe some humns as immortal. Also, humans culure tends to distinguish humans as being seperate from animals/organisms, thus is thought it would be approrpiate to reinforce the factual side. Pass a Method talk 15:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I also have a problem with the sentence because it's potentially inaccurate. There are organisms that do not appear to have a natural death, and may be considered immortal, such as the jellyfish Turritopsis nutricula. See Immortality#Biological immortality. Sentences that make all/never generalizations are rarely defensible, and draw the scrutiny of skeptics. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I was actually aware of that article, but when i read it i got the impression that none of the organisms actually succeed in immortality, unless as part of a colony and others replenish temselves. I could reword it to something like "individual organisms", or "all mammals inevitably experience death". Pass a Method talk 16:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Mammals" is much too restrictive; it leaves out reptiles, amphibians, fish, etc. The budding and cloning organisms might not go through an immortality as we like to think about it with regard to our own bodies, but they (apparently) fall under the definition. If you insist on making some kind of "all" statement, I would advise qualifying it with "known", as in "all known complex organisms", or something like that. Maybe even "experience death, or the termination or degradation of their original forms". However, you shouldn't be surprised if a GA-reviewer decides it should be stricken. Boneyard90 (talk) 16:39, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I started a section about this on the article talk page before finding you were discussing it here. Would you mind discussing it there?--Taylornate (talk) 00:07, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'm in. Boneyard90 (talk) 00:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for helping at the death article Pass a Method talk 21:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! I don't really feel I deserve it, but I hope we can continue to cooperate! Thank you again! Boneyard90 (talk) 02:21, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


very close to blockable[edit]

ignored messages so far, and obviously not reading soapbox/ wp:not etc - probably time to be reported if it doesnt stop SatuSuro 15:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Say what? Who, the IP on Talk:Death? Yeah, his post sounded a little on the fanatic side.Boneyard90 (talk) 15:19, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXI, February 2012[edit]

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WP Women's History in the Signpost[edit]

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Women's History for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 01:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions[edit]

[1] [2] Before removing reliably-sourced information from an article, please open a discussion on the article's talk page to invite discussion. Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 23:40, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for bring up your concern here. As for my edits, that's part of being bold, yes? If you see something wrong, do something about it, right? But, as you request, I will put up my reasons at Talk:Taiji dolphin drive hunt. Boneyard90 (talk) 00:30, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I was bold to include the information in the first place, right? I had my reasons for why I thought those two bits of information were relevant and appropriate to the article, and opening a discussion before reverting helps me give my reasons and allows any other interested party to opine on the issue, which I think is more productive than possibly initiating a revert war. Thanks for your help. Cla68 (talk) 00:39, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks / Castles[edit]

Boneyard thanks tremendously for your edits. When working from Japanese sources it's surprising how my writing in English suffers. Have read your articles on Japanese castles, I'm not sure how to approach the topic as it's much more complex than writing about a geographic feature. Do you have a "best example" of a Japanese castle article for a minor castle, e.g., not a Himeji, Osaka Castle, etc.? Prburley —Preceding undated comment added 12:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Hi, thanks for writing, and no problem! Once, long ago, I saw the huge backlog of WP:Japan articles (I think 4,000+), and started working to clear it out. Got to read alot of interesting articles that way. And yes, as you can see, I have a fondness for Japanese castles, especially the small, out-of-the-way, nobody's ever heard of it castle. You find the coolest stories. I guess I am pretty proud of the J-castle articles I wrote: Nishikawa Castle, Nirengi Castle, and Miyao Castle, in about that order. Verifiable information, even in Japanese, can be difficult to find for some small castles. For Nishikawa and Nirengi castles, I had to go to he local library and check out old, musty tomes on local history. Other castle articles I've seen that are pretty good are Hirosaki Castle and Kakegawa Castle, but even those are sort of notable castles. The biggest problem with most J-castle articles is lack of sources, especially those translated from Japanese Wikipedia (which is notorious for its lack of sources), and I suspect many J-castle articles are written based on tourist pamphlets. Many are stubs. My advice: sources, history written chronologically (you'd be surprised how often this gets botched), an infobox, and section headings, which can help you to organize your topics better.

I know what you mean about translating. Sometimes, I translate something, read it back, and I know it looks like crap, but I can't figure out how to fix it. Don't worry about getting your translation to "match up" to the original. Sometimes, you have to break up a compound sentence, which allows you to put each idea in your own words, and you may have to use a synonym if the translated word is something awkward, unfamiliar, or obsolete. If I can help in any way, let me know! Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 15:49, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
As Darth Vader said to Luke: "You were right. You were right..." Prburley (talk) 12:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Too cool! Thank you! Boneyard90 (talk) 15:51, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

the move[edit]

I'm pretty sure that comment was a joke anyway. Serendipodous 08:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

True. Although the funny-guy does a pretty passable impression of a naive idiot, or a kid. Anyway, it does no harm to leave it, and the question was about changing the article, which is what the Talk page is for. I'd say a good number of the inquiries on the Talk page are referred to, but not copied to, the Zombie-fiction article. Boneyard90 (talk) 08:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gibbet of Jesus[edit]

Some time ago, you participated in Talk at an article which has been variously named Torture stake, Cross or stake as gibbet on which Jesus died, Historical disputes over the shape of the Crucifix, Dispute about the shape of the gibbet of Jesus, Dispute of Jesus' execution method, and Dispute about Jesus' execution method. Editors are considering another name change; I thought you might participate in that discussion.--AuthorityTam (talk) 21:55, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RM closed and alternative Talk:Dispute_about_Jesus'_execution_method[edit]

FYI. RM for ...method closed and new RM opened as Method of... per StAnselm's suggestion. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:42, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of Japanese battles[edit]

Hi! That is definitely a hoax, an elaborate hoax. Those references do not exist. Please see User talk:Nihonjoe#Reassessment of Battle of Imizu, especially at the last entry of mine. Or do you have any references on the battle? Oda Mari (talk) 14:21, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look through some of my J-history books later. But you really think someone would go to the trouble of creating a fictitious Battle of Imizu, with stub-articles on generals, heroes, etc.? Boneyard90 (talk) 15:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I do. I first thought it was a search request of something hard to find ref. in ja on the web. But nothing could be found. The books used as RS on the battle and its related articles couldn't be found either. There are lots of Sengoku related sites in ja. This is one of them and the content is detailed. Don't you think it's strange? I'm afraid it is impossible for me to think the articles are historical facts. Oda Mari (talk) 16:27, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, to play devil's advocate for a moment: for one of my articles, I relied heavily on the clan history of one highly local clan. It would be hard to find anywhere outside of Aichi Prefecture, or outside of east Aichi prefecture. There were so many battles, of such localized interest, I lean toward the benefit of the doubt. On the other hand, I don't have much experience with that editor, so I probably won't throw in my full support. I'll let you know if I find something verifiable. Boneyard90 (talk) 23:48, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and the link you posted doesn't translate to my computer. No English, no Japanese, just random webdings.Boneyard90 (talk) 23:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Please see my responses at the same place. This has become blown way out of proportion. --BradTraylor (talk) 03:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As for the link, click the "View" tab on your browser's menu bar, click character encoding and choose Japanese (Shift_JIS) . Then you can see the page in ja. Oda Mari (talk) 07:28, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well for what it's worth, I'm inclined to support keeping the articles. This is based on two opinions: I don't see evidence of a hoax; and just because something isn't on the internet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Boneyard90 (talk) 10:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXII, March 2012[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

WikiProject Japan Barnsensu Award
For your indefatigable efforts to assess WikiProject Japan articles. Michitaro (talk) 14:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Get out! How completely awesome is this! Thank you! or rather, arigatougozaimashita! Boneyard90 (talk) 16:07, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Zombie articles[edit]

Hi - You recently participated in a move proposal discussion regarding articles about zombies and zombie pop culture archived at Talk:Zombie. That proposal was not approved, and a new discussion is taking place at Talk:Zombie (fictional) that is narrower in scope, and concerns only whether the older Voodoo and newer Romero zombie pop culture should be included in the same article or whether it should be separated. These are articles that receive a lot of hits, and should probably get more input than just the two editors having the current discussion. I'm flagging all old move discussion participants regarding the new discussion, and your input would be appreciated. LaTeeDa (talk) 21:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, I'll take a look.Boneyard90 (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Consolidation of WWII films[edit]

No. We don't want "depicting", which was added recently by somebody, changed to "depiction".
We want neither.
Saying "depiction of" is the same as saying "film about" which is a given on a film list page.

Casablanca (1942)

American cafe owner in Casablanca

or

A film about an American cafe owner in Casablanca

or

A depiction of an American cafe owner in Casablanca

The page does not need any of these extra syllables.

On the other hand, somebody (same somebody?) added genre.
So if it begins with Comedy. Or Adventure. Or Drama,
that is helpful information which tells you the tone in 1 or 2 words. Varlaam (talk) 19:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to write. I hope it's clear that I was looking for a way to consolidate, and maintain consistency. Worked for some listings, but not all. Call them test edits; which is why I didn't go more extensively through the list. As far as "genre", I could see how "comedy" would be useful, but "Drama"? They're like 90+% drama. War is usually pretty dramatic. And saying "Espionage-Thriller about a spy..." is just redundant. A spy is, by definition, engaged in espionage. So unless it's a genre that you can't get from the subject, I'd say listing genre is useless.Boneyard90 (talk) 23:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Dawn-Marie_Wesley You might find this interesting trivia. I was watching Mutant X season 2 episode 10 prodigy, there is a part where Shalamar finds an article about her friend Nicky saying she killed her parents, but when you freeze frame and read the body of the article it's actually an article about Dawn Marie Wesley's suicide. Evidently they took the article and just put Nicky's picture in place of Dawn Marie's and a new headline. In the episode we find out Nicki's adoptive parents beat her because she was a feral mutant and she ended up killing them. Phoenixfyrs (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for writing. I've never seen the show Mutant X, so I don't find the trivia too incredibly interesting. Take care. Boneyard90 (talk) 21:23, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just thought that it was interesting because the show was produced in Canada, and the subject was a woman who was bullied by her parents (we are talking had scars from a bullwhip on her back) for being who she was until she snapped and killed them. The show could have used anything for the body of the article (I mean who but nuts like me would check what it said) but they chose to use Dawn-Marie's story, who had committed suicide 2 years prior after being bullied by classmates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoenixfyrs (talk • contribs) 07:13, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Luís Fróis[edit]

An edit you have made to Talk:Luís Fróis has been identified as vandalism. Please provide reliable sources documenting that he was a gaijin tarento and refrain from contentious editing ;-) Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't call him a tarento, did I? What...? Boneyard90 (talk) 21:15, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Banner Removal[edit]

The tagging editor was me. I was working through the List of events named massacres article which was added to the Wikiproject as being of high-relevance. The "riots" article covers "violent attacks that mainly targeted Han ("ethnic Chinese") people" and the article of Whitman is currently the only article covering his killings. By the way, some of the articles removed from the project were not actually originally tagged by me. For example the Marzabotto massacre was added to the Wikiproject in 2010, and rated by yourself in 2011. I merely added a rating for Wikiproject Italy. Dimadick (talk) 05:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for writing. Yes, I was aware you've been doing the tagging, but I didn't know it was in conection with the category. That explains the high number of articles recently. Makes sense now. Well, about the deletions by Rjanag, I wasn't going to ask for input from your or other project members unless he became obstinate or spiteful. But, he wasn't. He was casually apathetic. And I agree with you about the "riot" article in, where, Urumqi, I think? There was like 197 deaths; sounded more like a pogrom. I still have reservations about some of the massacres, mostly related to those that overlap with military history. Many, usually involving the wars of Eastern Europe in the 90s (Croatia, Serbia, etc.), or the Israeli conflicts, point to soldiers of one side massacring civilians, while the other side says they were, or thought they were, bombing or shooting up legitimate military targets. Any thoughts on this matter? Boneyard90 (talk) 09:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are still dissagreements over mass executions of prisoners of war during World War II. I think contradictory accounts can be expected for any controversial event, regardless the period. If we can find sources for both accounts, then they should be included in the text. Allowing readers to make their own conclusions. Dimadick (talk) 09:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK notification template[edit]

When you give a positive review to a DYK nom, as you did with Template:Did you know nominations/Losh, Wilson and Bell, please do not post a template on the user's talk page to indicate that the DYK has appeared on the main page. That template is reserved for DYKs that actually appear on the main page. (Thanks for your hard work -- I just don't want this error to get repeated.) --Orlady (talk) 19:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It's actually my first review, so I was really feeling my way. I wrote to a couple of admins about the steps. One said I did the right thing, another never replied. 20:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Siege of Inabayama Castle[edit]

Casliber (talk · contribs) 17:06, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some correction adjustments on WWII[edit]

Hi, I was about to introduce myself, but then I see I spoke to you 2 weeks ago. I don't remember that.
I had a brain haemorrhage a year ago, which shocked the hell out of my doctor since I'm otherwise his healthiest patient. So my long term memory is photographic, while my short term memory occasionally functions. Not a jolly situation.
Somebody — I haven't checked the log to see whom — introduced genre. Good idea. When we now have:

Bob Hope in the army

"Bob Hope" is basically shorthand for genre. But we don't want to include the big star because then we need to have the big Soviet star, the big Filipino star, etc.
So that one should probably be something like:

Comedy. Cowardly misfit in the army

To continue your point, should we have this:

Drama.

You want nothing there.
Well, speaking as a software designer, I can say that you are recommending the same representation for state and non-state. Absence also means "undefined".
So 5 letters and a period removes all ambiguity here, and that is definitely preferable to having to read some semi-English text then leaping to a conclusion.
You can have a Spy Drama (deadly serious), a Spy Thriller, a Spy Comedy. Our current Oscar(trademark!)-winning actor, Jean Dujardin, is famous in France for his spy comedies, which are available at my local public library branch, but do not have English subtitles because of some quasi-racist, anglophobic, ethnic-cleansing, expel-the-Anglos, Quebec law.

Our brief plot description might clarify the tone. Might. But that's a peripatetic solution when something unequivocal and non-prevaricating is readily available.
So, in an ideal world, we would have a Genre column.
But that's overkill when "Blat." in front of the Plot does the same job.

However, I do agree with you that "Espionage Thriller ... spy ..." is dumb. "Thriller" does the trick.

We do have a very broad range of tone on the page. Have you seen "Come and See"? It's like live coverage of a war atrocity. Jesus. It makes you glad you weren't there. And "Ilsa She Wolf of the SS", I walked out of the theatre; I'm not going to sit there through all the torture porn.

End of digression.
If it says "Comedy. early" then it probably used to say "Comedy depicts early" and I missed the retoggle of the "early" when I eliminated all occurrences of "depict/s/ing". The page does not need the word "depict" 500 times, especially since I think "depict" is my word. Didn't I introduce that word on my short films page? But, if I did, it was with the notion that "short films" could have its own conventions because it's a tiny little page. There are a finite number of those cartoons, and so on.
Also, we want: 

Comedy. Early

rather than 

Comedy: early

because "Comedy :" requires a change of case (=work), and that implies we are making a proper sentence, when we don't want a proper sentence. We want brevity: 

Genre. Soldier befriends orphan

(That's a great one, "The Search", shot in European rubble.)
And the 2nd element is a phrase, a semi-sentence, whatever. If we put a period there, then it needs to be a pretty sentence, and then every Russian and Polish movie will need a rewrite for grammar by a native speaker. Screw that; keep it simple.
Brevity means a Polish guy's contribution is probably good to go. We don't have to go all professional writer on its ass.

With "The Execution of Private Slovik", I restored it to: 

Drama based on

Genre. Yes, that's a given here, but say it and it's done.
I saw that film when it first aired in 1974. Powerful stuff for TV in 1974, no joke. The first interracial kiss is only 6 years before that, right? Kirk fighting to not kiss cute Lt. Uhura because there will be riots in Alabama. The olden days. Boys counting the number of years until they are old enough to be drafted and sent to Nam. Fun times.
I read William Bradford Huie's book some time in the 1980s, and then his book "Three Lives for Mississippi" which later became a movie. "Mississippi Burning" I think it was. I have "Slovik" on VHS.

End of digression.
In the interests of brevity, should the book be mentioned? I am undecided.
I think it's not too much, but then I wrote the "war books" pages. They've been renamed, like, 10 times. "Military films based on books" or something? I don't remember. I still call those pages "War Books". The pedantry around here sometimes. Those pages were about combat initially, years ago. I made them about war, not combat, since they were called war. Meaning your wife getting bombed. So I put in homefront and trials and everything to give a full picture. Now somebody's renamed them to "military" when my bloody pages are about war in its entirety, not just us playing toy soldiers.

Digression:
We had the best toys when we were kids. Toy machineguns that really worked. So you'd shoot your friend or your brother with a burst of automatic fire, then you'd finish him off with a round from the grenade launcher on your toy gun. Those things were hilarious. White plastic rifle grenades.

Thus endeth my 2 or 3 brief sentences to Boneyard. Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 17:51, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. It is certainly in my mind that over the long term, every film on that list should have a page.
If a certain title does not currently have a page, then a little more detail about it in the interim is okay.
Therefore, if someone makes a first stab at a Polish page, and it is not so great, and some nitpicker comes along, and starts questioning its "notability" and right to exist, then we, like the cavalry, will arrive and vigorously defend it.
Since we want lots and lots of detail on that linked page, so we can keep the list page manageable.
Does that suit you?
Also, my preceding paragraph inevitably violates one of the mutually contradictory WP rules, so pretend I never wrote it.
Varlaam (talk)
Hi, and thanks for taking the time to write. Yes, we've had interactions in the past, but I guess this is the first time we've formally communicated. As you might have seen, and I hope was noticeable, I was trying to maintain some consistency and keep the synopses to a necessary, consistent minimum. However, you make some good points, and I don't think I disagree with anything major. Now that I understand your reasoning, I'll try to keep my edits within those parameters. If I disagree from something radically, I hope you don't take it as a personal attack, and I'll try to put up a detailed explanation in the edit summary or on the Talk page. Happy editing! Boneyard90 (talk) 01:58, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Medals[edit]

Thank you for translating the medals on the 14th Armored Division (United States) article. I can now rest easy. RASAM (talk) 19:59, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXIII, April 2012[edit]

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WP Women's Project[edit]

Hello. I'm not sure who is actually in charge over at WP Women's Project, and I'm sure you've read This Post on the talk page. I have no vested interest in this idea, except to say that for monitoring the progress of the project, this is a valuable tool. All Tedder needs to set up the bot is Search terms. Anybody else can set up the project page and link, by just adapting what the Hawaii project has. I adapted the Hawaii model for the Texas project - piece of cake to set up and link to. Given that the project can be somewhat pertsnickedly about which articles it wants included, I personally feel out of my depth to communicate the Search terms to Tedder. Perhaps no one over there really knows how to respond to this. Or maybe each individual thinks somebody else will take care of it. But I really hope the project doesn't pass up this valuable tool. Do you have any suggestions? Maile66 (talk) 11:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend directing questions to User:Cynwolfe or User:Voceditenore. They were more active than I in the maintenance of the project, I think. Good luck.Boneyard90 (talk) 11:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thanks for the direction.Maile66 (talk) 12:10, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Denise Amber Lee[edit]

Thank you very much the time by helping to clean up Denise's wiki page. It is greatly appreciated. We would like to see the page updated as there has been lots of news about her foundation. Good news. How would I find someone to help me with this? there has been a law passed in florida to make standardization and training "mandatory" for telecommunicators. Also King was sentenced to death by the judge and is now on death row. If you can help us we would appreciate it. Please contact my husband Mark Lee at MarkLee@DeniseAmberLee.org he is Nathan's dad and can cite sources.

Again, if you cannot help, we still appreciate you taking the time to help clean up Denise's page.

Peggy Lee — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.81.187 (talk) 21:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for taking the time to write. The Wikipedia article is on my "watch list". If changes are made to it, it pops up on a sort of news feed, and if I have time, I try to check out the changes made to the articles I watch. If you have relevant information and you want the article changed, but are uncertain of how to change the page, the numerous formats, or don't want to enter into a conflict of interest, go to the Talk page, create a New Section, and add all the relevant information. An interested editor (such as myself) will notice the message, and add the appropriate information with all the formatting, into the article. I hope this helps. Take care.Boneyard90 (talk) 15:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXIV, May 2012[edit]

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Nomination of Obambo (fish) for deletion[edit]

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Queen[edit]

Hi. For your future reference, UK English refers to bands (and other collectives) in the plural. See WP:PLURALS. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 20:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Super Imaginative Chogokin[edit]

I notice that you have reverted my edits on Super Imaginative Chogokin twice now, in regards to its classification. I realize that the article may have "very little meaningful content", but given its size in relation to WikiProject Japan and WikiProject Toys, it meets the criteria for Start-class at least, and possibly C-class! I am happy to discuss this on the talk page of the article, but please do not revert again without trying to come to a consensus. Fortdj33 (talk) 20:00, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My concerns, along with my reason for the reversion, are on the Talk page. Please address those concerns before reverting my assessments.Boneyard90 (talk) 20:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New message! Heads up![edit]

Hi, you have a new message at Talk:Suicide_methods#Suicide_prevention.2Fhelpline_template.2Fmessage.2Fnotice.21 --Tito Dutta ✉ 04:07, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of possible interest[edit]

Thanks for your assistance with my learning curve on Talk:Suicide methods. There is something else you might find interesting, even though it's outside your stated fields of interest. I completely accidentally tripped over something on the internet, fell, and broke my ass. What I found is briefly summarized at Talk:Suicide#Chronic suicidality?. I've notified the Psychiatry Task Force and the WikiProject Psychology but thought I'd also let you know about it, FYI. Guyovski (talk) 05:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Inabayama Castle[edit]

Hi, I have reviewed Siege of Inabayama Castle and placed it on hold for up to seven days with some concerns. You can see my review here: Talk:Siege of Inabayama Castle/GA1. Canadian Paul 19:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Bonkei[edit]

I added a brief answer to your question about diorama and bonkei. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sahara110 (talk • contribs) 14:41, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for going through and assessing my recent Japan-related articles; much obliged. Yunshui 雲‍水 20:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome! Boneyard90 (talk) 13:42, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for continually assessing articles under Project Japan. 私の旅 (talk) 13:36, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! Thank you! Boneyard90 (talk) 09:47, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please teach me[edit]

Hello! Please teach me how we will improve Kanjin to a start level. Thank you. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 01:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. I think it was originally assessed as Stub because I could not tell if Kanji was an act, or a person. There has been alot of work, and I think User:Student7 has helped. Now that I have a clearer idea of what Kanjin is, I could edit some of the grammar. It needs more citations in different place, but for now I have changed it to C-class. Good job! Boneyard90 (talk) 06:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Watch your edit summaries...[edit]

Cupio dissolvi has nothing to do with Japan. ;-) LadyofShalott 16:45, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

oops you're right. Auto-fill (is that the right term?). I start typing "Assessed for..." and it gives me a choice of those statements that begin like that, which include for WPs Japan, Death, etc. Thanks for the heads-up. Boneyard90 (talk) 16:55, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Please check Yase Doji[edit]

Hello! Please check Yase Doji. Thank you. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 05:46, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Military history coordinator election[edit]

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Please check Water supply in Miyakojima.[edit]

Hello! Please check Water supply in Miyakojima. Thank you. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you check Haru Kobayashi[edit]

Hello! I hope you will check Haru Kobayashi. Thank you. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 00:59, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ichiro, I did a copyedit on the article, but it probably needs references in more areas, and some supporting materials, like a picture and/or an infobox, before it's a B-class. Also, there was one section that was confusing, and I wrote on the Talk page. Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 22:11, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please check Onshino Tabako[edit]

Hello! Please check Onshino Tabako this time. Thank you. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 23:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MMA[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012[edit]

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Thank you[edit]

Thank you for copyediting Fujiwara no Hirotsugu Rebellion. bamse (talk) 20:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime! And glad you're ok with the changes! Boneyard90 (talk) 21:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am very happy about the changes. Just one question, you changed "Japan" to "Japanese islands" in the intro, why? I believe at that time, we can speak of a Japanese state and writing "Japan" would emphasize that it was an inner-Japanese conflict. bamse (talk) 21:48, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the lead didn't specify the country at all. I figured it was left out because it was so different from the Japan as we know it, or because so much of the Japan as we know wasn't under the rule of the imperial government. I wavered between "in the area now called Japan" and the "Japanese islands", and went with the latter. Boneyard90 (talk) 21:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, indeed it wasn't in there. Your explanation makes sense to me, so Japanese islands is fine. Alternatively, perhaps something like "Nara period Japanese state" could work as well. bamse (talk) 22:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Boneyard90 (talk) 22:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

talk pages[edit]

FYI... per WP:TPL, the WikiProject Biography banner is always the first WP banner. Examples are pages such as Talk:Kanako Nishi and Talk:Nakayama Tadachika. Bgwhite (talk) 20:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm a bit busy right now. I'll try to pretend I care later. Boneyard90 (talk) 17:45, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, great. "I'll try to pretend I care later" and you continue doing it. Nice you "care" so much to follow standards around here. But, it does make you sound like an ass. Bgwhite (talk) 09:01, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I follow standards pretty well. That isn't one of them. And I didn't care for your tone, then or now. Boneyard90 (talk) 09:05, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dancing Dolls[edit]

Hi! Could you look at Dancing Dolls and check if the copy-edit tag placed by another editor can be removed? I rewrote it and I think it's is okay now, but I don't want to remove the tag myself, just in case there's something else. (By the way, I can't make the article more coherent with the sources I have. For example, as I understand, there's a gap between they disappeared from YouTube, deleting their channel, and it was announced they were to debut. But I don't have sources to back the info up and connect the 2 paragraphs in the history section together.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! I'll be happy to take a look! Boneyard90 (talk) 08:38, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I did a full copyedit, correcting spelling errors, punctuation, etc., and removed the banner. Two questions on content: (1) When did they first post to YouTube? It says they posted, and racked up 10 million views by their debut, but the reader doesn't have a timeframe. (2) I took a look at their official website, and added to the lead that their surnames are not available. You might want to confirm this, and if there's a source, state the reason. I know many Japanese agencies like to give their talent an air of "mystery" by withholding personal details, but these girls are also underage, so either reason, both or neither, and/or reasons of safety or privacy may have to do with the lack of surname availability. Good luck. Boneyard90 (talk) 08:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your help! I don't know answers to these questions, but I will try and find more information. My best guess is that their dance covers became popular on YouTube somewhere between May and September 2011. It wasn't a SMEJ's decision to keep their surnames private, they used the romanized names last year already. Thank you again! --Moscow Connection (talk) 11:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Jiro Sato[edit]

Would you mind reassessing the said article ro WP:JAPAN as it has been significantly expanded today? Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 16:07, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - I did a copyedit for punctuation and spelling, but it's a B-class. Boneyard90 (talk) 17:22, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please help concerning Hanaguri Ide[edit]

Hello ! I need your help concerning Hanaguri Ide. Mr. Seiya Yano, the top of the Hanaguri Ide preserving association, sent me photographs for use of Wikipedia and I do not know how to upload them. They are 1.37, 1.42, 1.41 and 2.25 MB. Please help me. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 11:26, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First you have to upload the photos to WikiMedia or Japanese WikiMedia. You have to make a new account and follow the directions to upload a photo. Then it can be added to an article. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. I have created a new name Jirokikuchi and uploaded 4 files, but I am having troubles. Please see the Japanese version of Hanaguri Ide. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 00:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Help! I cannot enter the place where Jirokikuchi is blue, and cannot continue talks. Now I am where Ichiro Kikuchi is blue. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 13:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SIC[edit]

Hi! Have you considered using the {{sic}} template? It's nice because it links to the article so people know what it means. Thanks for tagging the stuff in the article with "sic" WhisperToMe (talk) 21:35, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, cool, I didn't know about that. I'll use it in the future! Boneyard90 (talk) 13:06, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keio Academy of New York[edit]

BTW I answered your question at Talk:Keio_Academy_of_New_York#Question_on_dates WhisperToMe (talk) 23:44, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting[edit]

[3] When I, or anyone else, takes the time to add cited material to an article, could you please discuss it first before removing it? Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 13:31, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I'll explain on the Talk page. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:33, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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My deletions[edit]

"Jewish set lers were from several European countries." is not an adequate source. There were no statistics, no numbers, nothing. That is why I deleted it. Provide a legitimate source if you insist on putting it back again.Evildoer187 (talk) 03:37, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

True, not referenced, but I would think anyone with passing familiarity in U.S. history would be willing to let that slide. See the article History of the Jews in the United States. The first section (Jewish immigration) mentions immigration from Russia, Germany, and areas of modern Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova. That should qualify for "several countries", but I can borrow one of the sources from that article and insert it in the European American article. Boneyard90 (talk) 06:47, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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On the images of Hanaguri Ide[edit]

The images of Hanaguri Ide were removed possibly because of the copyright. Please help. Which one do you think is practical ? I will ask the copyright owner to join Wikipedia and he will enter the images. I will take photographs of Hanaguri Ide myself, but very poor photographs will be taken. Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 23:55, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If the photos have a copyright, then the owner will probably not want to join Wikipedia. By adding photos, the owner MUST give up copyright, and many people do not like that. I advise taking your own photos if you live in the area. Pick a nice day, with a blue sky, and take 10 or 15 photos from different angles. Select the 2 or 3 you like best. Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 00:19, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Otome Sensō[edit]

Hi! Could you look at "Otome Sensō" again now? It was actually better that some of the articles that you assessed as C-class, so I'm puzzled a bit... I've restructured it now. By the way, Reni Takagi is not alone on the cover and it's the source who calls it a secret, not me. And you really have to look closely to notice, that's also what the source says. So I changed it partially back. --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for taking the time to write. Yes, I altered the wording because it sounded like promotional language. I mean, if something is in a picture, but you have to "look very closely", then it's not really "hidden"; it's just very small, or camouflaged. If it was "hidden", it would be somewhere where you can't see it, like behind her or in her pocket or something. As for the assessment, I marked it C-class for lack of coverage, and this was related to the section "Reception". Everything else is pretty complete, I'd say. There's production, promotion, descriptions, but articles on songs or albums usually include not only chart ranks, but also critics' comments. What did the critics say about the songs? I think after a sentence or two on that would raise the article to B-class. I'll transfer these suggestions to the Talk page. Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 14:32, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the explanation! If you still don't like the word "secret", rephrase it, but I think it makes the article more interesting. And I've already found a review, I'll add it in a few days. By the way, I asked simply because you marked the article as Start-class, not C-class. I thought it could be because it wasn't divided into sections "Music", "Cover art", etc, so I decided to ask. Now, after your explanation, I will expand it to B-class. --Moscow Connection (talk) 23:06, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Personal problem[edit]

Hey! You seem to be a respected member of WikiProject Japan, and in the now several times I have dealt with you you have been agreeable. I'm here because I am having a problem with another user who also regularly edits articles within WikiProject Japan's sphere.

The user and I got off on the wrong foot, and I misinterpreted his actions as being contemptuous of MOS's policy on macron-usage, and he misinterpreted my editing certain articles as "stalking" him. I know he was wrong (I have a strong interest in Japanese cinema, which is the area in which we disagree) and I am willing to assume I was wrong in my assumption as well.

I made a peace offering to him, but he responded by deleting it, and attacking my edits to yet another article. He insists that I am "hounding" him, and given that I have now asked him to stop numerous times, I asked an impartial user who had already intervened for help. He/she told me[4] that the correct course of action was to find a mutually-agreeable user who we both respect and can act as an intermediary.

Since I am not active on WikiProject Film, Japanese WikiProject seemed like the logical choice, and you are by far the most active user there, as far as I know. Would you by any chance be willing to help resolve what has the potential to become a very disruptive dispute if it drags on further? Or if not, could you direct me to someone who could?

Kind regards,
elvenscout742 (talk) 08:36, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, first of all, thank you for the kind words! Next, about your dilemma, you should know that if it's the editor I'm thinking, he & I have not always seen eye-to-eye, and while vitriol was minimal, perhaps so was amicability. But that was a while ago, and maybe no grudges are held. You can suggest me as a mediator. If he is not receptive to the idea, you might alternatively see WP:Third Opinion for a specific problem, WP:Mediation for an overview & official policies of the mediation process, or you might suggest WP:Editor Assistance for a completely neutral editor with mediation experience. Let me know what happens. Good luck. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:18, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation refusal[edit]

There was a talk page notice regarding "mediation" from User:Elvenscout742 on my talk page. As far as I'm concerned, this user is harassing me. See WP:HOUNDING. When confronted, the user basically admitted that he was indeed doing exactly what is described on the page WP:HOUNDING. He also tried to get some administrator to attack me by reporting on the administrators' noticeboard and various other things. I don't think there is a need for "mediation" so much as a need for this user to be clearly warned about harassing other editors. I will remove anything from him which is deposited on my talk page, and I completely refuse "mediation" with this person. JoshuSasori (talk) 06:05, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and glad you could keep me updated on the development of this situation. User:Elvenscout 754 contends that there is simply overlapping areas of interest. If he is not sincere, what do you think is the root of the harassment? When did it start? Boneyard90 (talk) 06:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In particular, this user noticed a post of mine discussing a proposal to alter MOS:JAPAN so that macrons on Japanese names would not be used. This was discussed and the consensus seemed to be that my proposal was not necessary or was misguided. OK. I dropped the topic. After this User:Elvenscout742 first appeared at a discussion on Ryo Kase, arguing very hard about the macron and not really wanting to follow the policy described at WP:JATITLE. Following this, he evidently looked at the list of pages which I had created, and then started moving pages which I had created to different names. In at least two cases his moves were correct. For example as I was unable to locate the name of a film in English, I'd temporarily named the stub article Sonezaki Shinju (1978 film) without a macron, where by MOS:JAPAN it should have one. Also Akumyo series. However, in two other cases, he moved pages which were correctly titled according to WP:JATITLE. Ryoko Nakano, a stub article on a 70s Japanese actress, and Reikou, a variety of citrus fruit. I moved these back because the non-macron style is correct (Reikou is actually the registered variety name, with the "u", and Ryoko Nakano uses this style on her home page). It would have been very obvious if he had checked the references and links on those pages. He also started a requested move at Kindai Eiga Kyokai even though I presented very strong evidence that this is the company's own styling of the name, on film titles and DVDs. However, even when presented with evidence that he is wrong, in all cases the user endlessly barracks on the talk pages in this exasperating haranguing style, telling me for example that he speaks much better Japanese than I do, and therefore only his opinion counts, and other such frankly offensive and egomaniacal behaviour (see my talk page history if you really want to dig up the dirt). I am forced into replying to these discussions with him instead of making productive edits on the article pages, and no matter how obvious the case that he is wrong (see the talk page of Ryo Kase) he goes on and on arguing. I think this following my list of created articles and then renaming them all, then going into these endless nitpicking squabbles on talk pages is a clear case of WP:HOUNDING. JoshuSasori (talk) 06:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
JoshuSasori, I was undoing some of your edits to articles where I genuinely believed you were violating policy. I thought this about Reikou, and when you presented me with the opposing evidence I apologized and stopped trying to move the article. You have still not presented me with any reasonable evidence on Tadao Sato (which you didn't create) or on Kindai Eiga Kyokai. As to my "following you" to the latter article, it needs to be pointed out that it is a company behind two films (Onibaba and Kuroneko) I saw almost a decade ago, and whose articles I had edited long before you created your Wikipedia account. I have been watching hundreds of Japanese films for a very long time, and I have every right to edit Wikipedia articles relating to those films constructively. However, as soon as I touched the articles Double Suicide of Sonezaki and Tadao Sato, you started working to hide all my contributions to those articles, as is demonstrated by your nitpicking my translation of the word 精神 and going out and searching for an "English title" of Sonezaki Shinjū so that you could remove my gloss. You did this after repeatedly reverting my gloss under a blatant misrepresentation of MOS:FILM and WP:NCFILM.
The fact is that I want to be able to have constructive debates over whether this or that article should have a macron in its title, but you have tried repeatedly to shut down these debates by making personal attacks/assumptions of bad faith, and to shut me out of editing these articles entirely. I can't help but feel that if I now tried to edit Twenty-Four Eyes again, you would accusing me of following you there, too, even though I created that article. When I first tried to make you a peace offering, and offered conclusive proof that my editing of JFILM articles is in good faith[5], you removed my post as "hounding"[6], when in reality I have done a lot less "hounding" than you have in constantly undoing my good faith edits to numerous articles.
elvenscout742 (talk) 09:24, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions[edit]

Good to see we can come together on neutral ground for open & frank discussion of personal viewpoints that may contribute to a cessation of hostilities. I have been trying to gain an overview, while at the same time trace the increasingly heated exchanges. As pointed out, the ongoing dilemma finds its root earlier in December on Talk:Ryō Kase. As best I can see, the exchange really began to escalate after 14:55, Dec 16: the words "absurd" and "ludicrous" were used, which ordinarily might be considered very mild nonconstructive criticism, but in the heat of discussion catalyzed further hard feelings, ranging from the suspicion that the opponent was not assuming good faith and engaging in "abusive" behavior. First, you both are constructive content editors, with dedication to the cause. Personal styles of repartee can sometimes conflict sharply leading to harsh debate. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:52, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To Elvenscout742

First, we must remember that Wikipedia is consensus driven. This sometimes seems to take precedent over established policies. I have also found myself in debates, in which, from my viewpoint, I was correct based on policies &/or guidelines, but the move I advocated was over-ruled by a consensus of the opposing side. My opinion, or my advocated move, was considered too inconvenient or was simply outside the interest of the other editors. You must consider that even though you're sure you have policy on your side, a consensus may be built against your view. Ideally, all us editors would then re-visit the policy and amend it to reflect practice, as demonstrated by consensus. In reality, hard changes can be difficult to obtain, since this is all volunteer based.

Advice: First of all, it does not benefit your position to extoll your credentials. Remember, here at Wikipedia, almost nothing of our outside lives counts for anything. I know, this is a hard pill to swallow. I can put userboxes on my User page, for your benefit, but then again, I can put any userbox I want; there is nothing to validate my claims. This is why some new editors can be quickly frustrated and why more experienced (and embittered) editors have to be reminded not to talk harshly to newcomers. Remember that the only thing that counts is consensus, which includes the consensus that an editor is knowledgeable in some area.
Next: It may benefit your debates to keep your position concise. Keep your words confined to the debate at hand; avoid bringing up debates on other pages. If you feel you are being baited, avoid the temptation to address it. Keep your remarks confined to the subject. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:53, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To JoshuSasori

After some reading, I can see why you may think you're being "hounded", but I also wonder if this label was too quickly applied. The best evidence of "hounding", as in malicious, targeted disruption of one editor's edits, is when the hounding editor begins to contradict himself. When the harassing editor is more intent on disrupting an opponent rather than contributing to the content & format, then the exchange has moved to personally motivated disruption. I do not believe this is the case here, as Elvenscout742 has been consistent in his position. Even if he goes through your list of created articles, we must look to see if he is editing other, similar articles consistently. It seems he has, and therefore we must assume good faith, to the extent that we may have to give the benefit of the doubt, as it seems he is more motivated to correct format rather than editing simply to confront you.

JS: You advise me to look at your Talk page for example of "hounding", but after some time searching, I come to find out you have deleted the exchanges. I suppose since it's your Talk page, you have the right, but this is not conducive to open dialogue.
JS: Your debate style and comments walk a line between humor and sarcasm. I sometimes fall into the same trap, which can frustrate a debate participant, even though I gain some humor. We both must be aware that our words may not be interpreted as we intend. Please avoid assumption of motive - any motive, and keep your edit summaries confined to your reason. It does not benefit the debate to admonish another editor to avoid taking the first Google hit as a reliable source. We must assume that he believes his edit to be genuine and valid, and you should state your reason minus any other assumption. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:54, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Conclusion

I would suggest a moratorium on editing, say for 3 days, but as you are both quite dedicated to The Cause, I doubt there would be consensus. I also doubt there is enough evidence for any admin action against either of you. Furthermore:

  1. I have seen that both of you can reasonably withdraw from a debate, when you find there is a reliable source to back the opponent's position, or you find consensus is against your position; however, in both cases, it can be a drawn-out grudging withdrawal. Recognize the turn of events sooner. You can begin to see which way the debate is turning much sooner than when you finally say, "Whatever, I don't care". State plainly that you do not agree, but will wait until you find a reliable source to support your position. Most of these articles are not going anywhere, and there is nothing to stop you from coming back in a month or a year after you have found a reliable source.
  2. Streamline the route to discussion. At this point, it should go :Text correction -> Revert & Talk page discussion. That is, instead of further reversion, there should be discussion with the first revert; either the reverting editor should explain, or if the initial "correcting" editor disagrees, he should initiate discussion.
  3. Once discussion begins on a Talk page, refrain from further edits on that article until the point of contention is resolved, either between you two, or with consensus of other editors. You're not going to "win" all the time, but this isn't about winning.
  4. If one editor makes an inflammatory comment or reply, really take a step back, take a break for an hour or so. Consider your response; frame your wording to be as neutral as possible. Before hitting the "Save page" button, re-read your comment, and really deconstruct it, looking for points of possible contention or misinterpretation.
  5. Remember that everyone is equal here. All authority and experience, within & outside of Wikipedia is irrelevant. Even an unknown AnonIP has as much right to contribute as an editor with a specialized education and/or years of Wiki-experience. It's all about consensus.
  6. The macron debate will not end soon, and there is no blanket policy. In any article with macrons, each must be ready to reverse position, accept that reliable sources go against policy, or accept that reliable sources are not to be found, and default to our MOS.
  7. Last, you both seem to have overlapping areas of interest. In all further communication, consider that you will be confronting each other time and again. You must find a way to communicate effectively, efficiently, and courteously, or you will be faced with many stressed hours in front of a computer.

I hope this helps. Boneyard90 (talk) 16:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Boneyard, firstly I would like to thank you for all the effort you have put into investigating this case. The above research is almost-100% accurate (JS didn't technically delete any exchange, per se, on his talk page, but reverted my offers of compromise immediately without replying) and your recommendations are all agreeable and appropriate. I did not actually intend to reply here unless JS did as well, since I assumed this would be the end of it. However, not long after reading the above I went to edit the article Kuroneko[7][8], and my edit was immediately tagged as OR[9] by JS. After a brief debate in which I demonstrated willingness to compromise on what he initially claimed was an problematic point (I removed part of my own edit[10]), and also demonstrated that since my edit was based on a reliable source it can't be OR[11] (he was really contesting the definition of a word I used), he posted two sarcastic remarks[12][13] and removed my edit completely[14]. He has now done this -- engaged in draconian measures to hide any edit I make -- on three separate articles. I tried coming to you for mediation but it apparently didn't work; any advice on where to go next? I guess I could try taking a Wikibreak, but does that mean I have to just come back and let this happen again before I do anything? elvenscout742 (talk) 13:08, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, initially I put the tag on the notion you had added to the article without actually reverting the edit, and pointed out to you that you were making a synthesis of two things (a possible meaning of a word and the meaning of the title of the film). You went on and on arguing with me, with the discussion spilling onto three Wikipedia noticeboards. You continued arguing even when presented with absolutely overwhelming evidence that your opinion about the usage of "yabu no naka" was wrong. Then you started using "collapse" templates to hide my inputs on discussions. And now, you present yourself as a victim. JoshuSasori (talk) 22:56, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've given the latest turn some thought and I believe it is helpful and quite acceptable to place a tag and discuss, and beneficial to do so without reverting the edit, as User:JS originally did. A synthesis is made when a conclusion is drawn for the reader. As one experienced editor pointed out on one of my articles, if there seems to be a correlation (as in this case), you can write about this (as in translate the title of the movie), and you can write about that (as in the metaphorical or idiomatic usage of the phrase), and as long as both are acceptably sourced and independent, both relevant items can be included in the article. Without a source, an editor should not make the connection for the reader, no matter how "obvious" it seems. If it is that obvious, the reader should be able to draw the same conclusion as you - or not, but it's not up to the editor. Now, as far as Wiki-etiquette on Talk pages, mild sarcasm may not be conducive to amicable cooperation, but should not be a great obstacle. Sincere readers will see through it, and it may be more detrimental to posting editor. As for the Collapse feature: As long as this is applied fairly, to large sections rather than a single editor's comments, it should be acceptable. I spend so much time scrolling up or down various discussion, I'd like to see this feature applied more often. I think it is more often applied to "censor" discussions that went off on a tangent or became offensive, and therefore carries some wiki-stigma, but I think it is acceptable as long as the heading reads something like: "Collapsed for ease of navigation", or something, and should be applied after the discussion has reasonably moved past that point of discussion. As far as the "yabu no naka" meaning, to be honest, I began to get lost in who was making which claims. Boneyard90 (talk) 08:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK Victoire Pisa[edit]

You may want to run the rule over Victoire Pisa as it has been nominated for DYK (not by me) and could be on the main page fairly soon. Thanks for your help so far.  Tigerboy1966  01:00, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Japan Assessment[edit]

Hi. Would just like to inform you that there are currently two articles up for assessment over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Assessment, one of which has been sitting there since November. Happy editing! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not the only one in the project who can assess an article. You can post this to the WP:Japan Talk page or the WP:Japan Assessment Talk page. If you are requesting my personal attention, then I can take a look at the articles, if you like. Boneyard90 (talk) 07:27, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, why not. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:50, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I love gerundicity..[edit]

But your edit at "Impalement" was a distinct improvement over my own! :-) Arildnordby (talk) 18:10, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you agree! And welcome to Wikipedia! Boneyard90 (talk) 18:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! By the way, I've added the direct quote from John warkworth's chronicle relating to Tiptoft's act (used by Evans in Death of kings), shouldn't Warkworth's words be the primary source to Tiptoft's actions, rather than the unreferenced story that previously stood there? Perhaps you could take a look at it?

Arildnordby (talk) 18:52, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll take another look at it. I was going for a "this is what everybody thinks, but here's the real deal" kind of approach. I didn't write the paragraph about Tiptoft (not really my area), so maybe we should just delete all mention of Vlad and Wallachia. Boneyard90 (talk) 18:57, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think Wallachia and genitals in the mouth should out. That's mere sensationalisms and MUST have independent source. Furthermore, these 20 8not thirty) were hanged, drawn and quartered, and the impalement was a post-mortem INDIGNITY, rather than a form of execution.

Arildnordby (talk) 19:10, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a rough draft of what I think is a better re-telling than the unreferenced one.

Arildnordby (talk) 19:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. I made some tweaks, and removed the Vlad mention entirely. A couple points for your consideration: I do not believe "sensationalism" is an adequate argument against the addition of relevant information; I've too often seen ideas dismissed as "sensational" in academia, that were later demonstrated as accurate or at least worthy of consideration (in this case though, as there is no reference, so I don't mind deleting the information). Also, the description is of disemboweled corpses arranged to appear as if their own heads were sprouting from their buttocks, undoubtedly in front of friends & family. I don't think castration and oral investment of the amputated genitalia can add much more to the already gruesome image. Boneyard90 (talk) 19:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good points! Anyhow, I think we have made the latter half of the England section much better than it was. The first half is still sorely lacking in references (I know you didn't write it); perhaps one might add a few "reference needed" markers?

Arildnordby (talk) 20:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You could. The article has a "ref improve" banner at the top of the page, but if you want to add the [citation needed] to specific paragraphs or claims, or the section-specific template of the banner, it couldn't hurt. (See Template:Refimprove section. Boneyard90 (talk) 20:26, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFCC[edit]

The reason for the link is that as per WP:NFCC non-free content is not allowed on talk pages. ✍ Mtking ✉ 07:56, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

January 2013[edit]

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Execution of Rizana Nafeek, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Please revert the POV, the issue has not been addressed ✍ Mtking ✉ 08:00, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the template precisely because I had dealt with, or did not see any further POV problems. In the edit summary, I explicitly state that the banner was removed "in light of recent edits" and further state that if it was in error, please replace. I don't see the POV problem about the article, so perhaps you need to better explain what that is. Boneyard90 (talk) 12:16, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why public domain?[edit]

I don't mean to bludgeon you over the head with this, but it is kinda important, and I'd like to understand where everyone is coming from (I'm not an expert on it myself, after all). Why do you think the original letter is in the public domain? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:10, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly because it doesn't have an addressee. That says to me it was written essentially "to whom it may concern", i.e. everyone. She was making a declaration of innocence, right? Why would the letter writer want that information to be kept locked away because she didn't know she had to write a legal statement? And further, because there's no addressee, what's the difference between it and a piece of trash she discarded? Once your trash is on the curb, it's public property, right? It's not a work of art, it's not a work of fiction. Was it entered into the Saudi Arabian judicial record? We don't know if it did, or Saudi law, but in the US, I was under the impression that court testimony and evidence is also public domain. Hope that explains some of my rationale. Boneyard90 (talk) 20:18, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see how you would think that, but that's not how it works. Copyright isn't limited to art or fiction; things like non-fiction, textbooks, dictionaries, encyclopedias (including Wikipedia) and such are also copyrighted. Copyright applies to all original works, and this definitely qualifies as an original work; the trash analogy doesn't fit, because there is no element of an original work in trash on the sidewalk. As I've said in a few other places, public distribution isn't the same as public domain, and we can't speculate on whether she would've liked to release it into the public domain without an explicit statement from her in the affirmative. Court testimony and its evidence may itself be public domain (the work of any US federal employee, made in the course of their duties, is public domain, but only because the US government explicitly and automatically releases it as such), but I'm pretty sure the pre-existing copyright of a work isn't invalidated if it's entered as evidence. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:28, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As for relevance, I find it very relevant to add an image of a declaration of innocence in her handwriting. In any such article I find that personal reflection of the subject can tell me something of the subject than another party. Take a look at Gettysburg Address for an image of the speech in Lincoln's handwriting; look at Murder of JonBenét Ramsey for a transcript of the ransom note. (Shouldn't that also be copyrighted by the author?) It's not enough for me to read about the ransom note, it's valuable because I can see for myself the words of the letter-writer, and maybe draw my own conclusion as to whether what kind of person wrote (maybe I think it reads like a male rather than a female, etc.). As for the article Execution of Rizana Nafeek, I might not understand her language, but it was instructive to me to see her handwriting (Writes on a slant, steady hand) and a translation (no redundancies or contradictions, which would say that it was written by someone confused or lying). For those who can read her language, there is nuance in any language that may tell a native speaker something more about her state of mind. Boneyard90 (talk) 20:30, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it would be relevant, but non-free images are held to a higher bar than simple relevance. If the image was public-domain, then it would definitely be nice to include. But I don't think it can be said that it's seriously detrimental to the reader's understanding to withhold the image from the article, which is the standard in the non-free image policy. (In passing, you might be right about the JonBenet article, but perhaps there's an exception about a letter written anonymously, or there was some other way to get around it. Perhaps it's just that nobody's gotten around to challenging it. Dunno about that; it'd be an interesting question to be asked. One way or another though, the usual WP:OTHERSTUFF counter-argument applies.) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:40, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm no expert either, but in this case, I'm still not sure I've found all your explanations convincing. Perhaps I just need to think on it some more. However, I'd like to thank you for taking the initiative to open dialogue here. Good to know there are editors who are not just interested in insisting they're right, but are rather more interested in talking and understanding others' viewpoints. Good luck in your future edits. Boneyard90 (talk) 20:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers; good luck to you as well! I think the frustrating thing about this is that nobody would actually file a copyright infringement complaint if we had it up there. But unfortunately, it seems to be a rule we can't just ignore, unlike most other rules at Wikipedia. In copyright stuff, the forms must be obeyed, no matter how pointless it is in practice. :/ But, no worries; thanks for being willing to put up with me, even after you've bowed out! :) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:52, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Writ Keeper, the said letter was used in the Sri Lankan Court as a judicial record. That was why her agent was arrested and sentenced. I am sure any Sri Lankan Court records are under public domain.HudsonBreeze (talk) 21:12, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I found[edit]

your treatment of gerund abuse at Haymarket affair, to be "and" abuse and no improvement, so I am going to make it two sentences. See what you think (in about 4 minutes) Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 21:45, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

semicolon works for me Carptrash (talk) 00:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, and thanks for writing. I hope you didn't mind too much, I usually try to improve any article I visit and assess. Gerund over-use seems to be my pet peeve. It's a great article. Boneyard90 (talk) 00:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Gerund over-use is driving me crazy too. Carptrash (talk) 01:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings![edit]

So good to hear from you! Congratulations on all the great work. It was fun to read about what you are doing. I loved working at LCC, and I consider my time there an important part of my learning and my professional life as an educator. You were very kind to write and say you remembered my class. It means a lot to me. Best wishes Randolph.hollingsworth (talk) 13:40, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Main page appearance: Lady Saigō[edit]

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Lady Saigō

Lady Saigō (1552–89) was the first consort and trusted confidant of Tokugawa Ieyasu, the samurai lord who unified Japan at the end of the 16th century and then ruled as Shogun. One of her four children became the second Tokugawa shogun, Tokugawa Hidetada. During their relationship, Lady Saigō influenced Ieyasu's philosophies, choice of allies, and policies as he rose to power, and she thus had an indirect effect on the architecture of the Tokugawa shogunate. Although less is known of her than some other figures of the era, she is generally regarded as the "power behind the throne". Her contributions were considered so significant that she was posthumously inducted to the Senior First Rank of the Imperial Court, the highest honor that the Emperor of Japan could confer. A devout Buddhist, she donated money to temples in Suruga province, where she resided as the consort of Ieyasu, first in Hamamatsu Castle and later in Sunpu Castle. She also established a charitable organization that assisted visually impaired women with no other means of support. Lady Saigō died at a fairly young age, under somewhat mysterious circumstances. Although murder was suspected, no culprit was identified. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:02, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hey[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki#So_were_leaflets_were_dropped_on_August_the_1st.3F

can you see if i done right? XXzoonamiXX (talk) 23:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for taking the time to write. That looks like an impressive discussion that went on for awhile. Can you be more specific with your question? Boneyard90 (talk) 23:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Me and Bink were having an argument about the leaflets dropped or not. In the "leaflet section "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki#Leaflets". My problem is that Bink made it appear as the leaflet was "likely" dropped and that the leaflets were not dropped. However, everytime i attempt to change it no matter what, Bink kept on reversing it back to way it was. Everytime i tried to edit out the problem and added the parts based on legitimate sources, he kept on reversing the back the way it was and scuffs those as it was a bunch of lies. The whole thing is about whether the leaflets were dropped or not. However, my big problem is that Bink put it on the appeared that the leaflets dropped was likely (meaning whether it was true or not) yet the made it appear about the leaflets dropped were not as it was actual facts. The last sentence he put out," One such leaflet is on display at the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Museum; it lists 12 cities targeted for firebombing: Otaru, Akita, Hachinohe, Fukushima, Urawa, Takayama, Iwakuni, Tottori, Imabari, Yawata, Miyakonojo, and Saga. Hiroshima was not listed.[1][2]" Yet the Hiroshima Peace Museum guide member i talked yesterday did say about the folks in the city being warned with leaflets a week before and that there is no such thing like "One such Leaflet being displayed with 12 cities listed for firebombings and Hiroshima was not." Author F.J. Bradley did not say anything about the "12 cities listed, Hiroshima was not" and he only said that the leaflets were dropped on the city a few days about the firebombings prior to an atomic bomb attack. Author Bungei Shunjū Senshi Kenkyūkai also did not say anything about the 12 cities listed in the leaflets and Hiroshima was not DISPLAYED in the Hiroshima Peace Museum, not a single sentence produced it's evidence for that. He did say that 12 cities were targeted with leaflets but not Hiroshima, however, not a single word about the Peace Museum in that book. There had contradictory sources whether the leaflets were dropped but my big problem is he put it last sentence as it was actual facts. On the last sentence of the "Leaflet article", Bink mixed those two links together in the last sentence of the "Leaflet section to make it appear that Hiroshima was NOT warned with leaflets at all displayed at the Hiroshima Peace Museum and everytime i report to this problem and with addition proposals, he chose not to comment on it whatsoever rather an attempt to engage in a constructive argument. It's like even the problem with these, he then chose to straight down the road with the "No leaflet dropped" side and make it appear as it was actual facts. And every-time i asked him to remove it and reanalyze, he chose not to comment on me and everytime i make changes to it, he still unsatisfied and removes it because it does not fit into his POV whatsoever. I put on his comment and so far he did not respond. Yet when i tried editing the and readding the parts, five seconds, he was there reversing it. So basically, he did not want to responsd to me anymore despite the fact i kept on proposing the changes. Another thing how the way he puts it to let the reader what they wanted to know. For example, the article of the [[Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki], he puts the word "likely (Which means whether it was probably true or not an actual fact)" that Hiroshima was leafleted because the sources say the leaflets were dropped on 27 or 30th of July and the 1st or 4th of August yet he claimed that the USAAF history did not mentioned the leaflets were not dropped on the 27th and the 30th when it was just another book written by an author who had a also different perspective as well and the book "Matterhorn" did not mention that the leaflets not being dropped on July 30th and in the 27th. By resolving this, I added F.J. Bradley part "that a few days prior to A-bomb, that the leaflets was dropped." I also asked him again that did these book statements actually say that and then removed my posts it simply because he didn't want to answer my question. If i feel something is wrong, then i have right to change it. So the way i see it, it's a clear form of admin abuse power. XXzoonamiXX (talk) 08:49, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok. I'll try to provide an opinion after I look at it some more, I'm sure sometime today but maybe tomorrow. Boneyard90 (talk) 12:22, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So what do you think about the issues i'm having now? Are you an admin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XXzoonamiXX (talk • contribs) 06:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am definitely not an admin. I'm sorry, but I'm really not sure when I'll be able to dive into this debate with any kind of resolve. It's not that I don't want to, but it would take some time for me to read up on the issues before understanding the merits of either side, and it seems this debate is proceeding at a fast pace. Best of luck. Boneyard90 (talk) 07:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013[edit]

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WP:FOUR for Lady Saigō[edit]

Four Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Lady Saigō. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:58, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Awesome! Thank you! Boneyard90 (talk) 20:03, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

I'm sorry if my comment about sources sounded somewhat tetchy - I didn't have anyone specific in mind, it's a generic problem across all wp projects. Best regards In ictu oculi (talk) 03:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, and understandable. Part of the problem is many editors' preference for online sources. I've had reviewers actually request that I find an online source to back up some part of an article, even though it was well-established in print sources. Sources: we gotta have 'em, but nobody wants to leave the computer to go look for 'em. Best of luck. Boneyard90 (talk) 07:46, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Silent June and Women's History[edit]

You've removed the WP Women's History banner from Silent June on the grounds that it's not within the scope of the project. But the entry for Edith Cavell is within scope and the title of the Silent June album refers to the words of one of the songs on it, "Que Sera", about Cavell's execution during World War I. O'Hooley & Tidow, the two women who wrote the song, said they were inspired by Cavell's story. In doing so, have brought this historically very important story to modern audiences. Worthy for inclusion in the project, surely! Headhitter (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. Many people tag articles with the WP:Women's History banner, thinking it's a very broad topic, but actually the founding editors wanted it to be very specific, to include articles on topics about the history of women, or about how history was affected by women. While an article about Edith Cavell, or any event in which she participated and significantly affected, or an article about the incident leading to her death, would all be included in the project, articles on cultural references to Cavell's death, whether it's a novel, song, movie, or video game, are not within the scope of the project. For a comparison, the articles Marilyn Monroe and Death of Marilyn Monroe are both included in the project, but Candle in the Wind, the song about her death, is not. (On a side note, you could add a banner from the country in which the song originated.) However, if you feel strongly about the song's inclusion in WP:Women's History, you may seek a second opinon, and approach one of the other active members, or ask about it's inclusion on the project Talk page. Good luck. Boneyard90 (talk) 21:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I'm more or less finished now[edit]

I found some much-needed contemporary evidence on the aggravated impalement with roasting technique by the Ottomans, and have added those, in addition to emphasizing the merely anecdotal evidence for Japanese "bamboo torture", and removed the reference to the French street name "Rue du Pal". The last two points have removed the need for citations there. Perhaps you could do the nomination to Good Article status? Arildnordby (talk) 11:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

After just getting my first article to Featured Article status, I do not have the time to go through a GA-review process. Besides, you're the one with the sources, you should nominate it. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:15, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on featured Lady Saigo article![edit]

This was a really interesting article; I really haven't really read much else than a biography of Hideyoshi from this exciting time period in Japanese history, in particular, your article was really good at portraying gender roles, the possibilities for women to influence history within an apparent strict patriarchy like Japan at that time. She sure knew how to maximize the realization of her own potential, and influence one of the biggest alpha males of her times. Arildnordby (talk) 11:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks! That was by far the most in-depth commentary I've heard about the article. Other people have told me it was "good", but I wasn't sure why or how it was good. So your comment really means alot! Yes, as you can see it was the first time I have gone through the FA process. It's meant to be pretty rigorous. Good luck with the GA-review. I can't do it myself, as that would be a conflict of interest, but I'll be watching and helping if I can. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You've already helped me a LOT. Being Norwegian, "natural" sentence/syntax structuring, for example, is subtly different from proper English, and it is therefore invaluable to me to get input from "natives" in order not to produce weird (but perfectly normal Norwegian) English sentences.Arildnordby (talk) 13:26, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have, by the way, a single created article, Christman Genipperteinga, about a German monstrosity from the 16th century. I'd be very grateful if you at some time could take a look at it, and see if I could improve it somehow. I'm considering nominating it to "Good article", but I'd really like to get a "Go ahead!" before doing so; after all, I think issues like notability and availability of multiple sources ought to be considered, prior to advancement to status GA (Genipperteinga, after all, is a highly obscure/abstruse subject of an article!). Arildnordby (talk) 13:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cool article. But yeah, it needs some work before it's ready for GAN. I'll take a look at it, but it might be later in the week or this weekend before I can get to it. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Take your time, there's no hurry. The bastard has been dead for about 500 years, if he ever existed (a "minor" issue relative to which I have grave doubt, but an emphasized inclusion of such doubts within the article would constitute Original Research, IMO).Arildnordby (talk) 14:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ai Iijima[edit]

Hi: Just wanted to let you know that I revised and expanded the Ai Iijima article if you want to take another look at it. Couldn't find any evidence for an English edition of Platonic Sex. Cherryblossom1982 (talk) 20:38, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - B-class. Good job. Boneyard90 (talk) 21:15, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could you not remove WP China (or other relevant wp)[edit]

... Just to replace it with WP East Asia, because it is not a mere sub-group of that lesser-active wikiproject. And some of us monitor article logistics through its inclusion in a wikiproject.--Cold Season (talk) 21:33, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can not.... or I will not, actually. Doesn't make much sense to me to have a stack of wikiproject banners, when they all fit under a regional WP. For any article on some material (like, a musical instrument), I usually leave the WP banner of the country where it was first invented, or it is otherwise most relevant, and then put the regional banner. But if you feel some article should include both the country and region, please leave a note on that article's talk page. Boneyard90 (talk) 23:07, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are many reasons for a Wikiproject to tag an article even if it is also within the scope of a project with wider scope. (1) Wikipedia:Article alerts, for example, will allow members of a project to see whether articles within their range of interest have been nominated for deletion / renaming / assessment at GA or FA / peer review, and other work flows. If China tags are removed in favour of East Asia tags, that functionality is lost, and people who want to monitor the China pages then have to sift through the East Asia article alerts which will include countries in which they are not interested. (2) Inclusion in the clean-up listings for articles within the scope of a project depends the project's tag being on the talk page. (3) The same goes for the list of unreferenced BLPS and other listings, such as quality logs and popular articles. (4) If someone has a question about an issue on an infrequently edited page, they may be better off asking at a Wikiproject's talk page. Removing specific project banners makes it harder for someone to find a page that may assist them.
Overall, the general rule of thumb is that members of a Wikiproject decide what they want to tag and what they don't want to tag. There is no harm in having multiple projects covering the same article. Non-members should not really be removing project tags, because it is not for non-members to say what is or isn't of interest to a Wikiproject. Hope this helps. BencherliteTalk 23:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, those are good reasons. I will consider those adequate reason to leave wikiproject banners in place. And I rarely move project banners for which I'm not a member. I may not be too active at WP:China, but I have contributed. And I find that many articles are tagged by non-members, who don't always know what's of interest to project members, but think it might be (I do this). But, like I said, you present a good case. Boneyard90 (talk) 23:32, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. BencherliteTalk 23:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What is or is not of interest of a wp is purely subjective, which is the reason why one (such as yourself) can tag it low importance. It is senseless to disturb the coordination of a standalone wp for the "dislike" of stacking banners (which can be collapsed anyway). What I ment with logistics is worded good by User Bencherlite. --Cold Season (talk) 14:49, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Saigō question[edit]

Hi there! I just have a quick question regarding today's featured article Lady Saigō. Shouldn't "buddha" in "bhudda status" be capitalized in the legacy section? Thanks. Ajaxfiore (talk) 01:50, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would change it myself, but you clearly know more about this than I do. Ajaxfiore (talk) 01:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. As for your question, I really think it can go either way, and still be "correct". See the article Buddhahood. It starts out with lower case, but also uses the capitalized form later in the article. A person can become "a buddha", and may be considered "The Buddha of ~ "(something). I compare it to "sainthood" or "godhood". There are many saints, but there is Saint Joseph, Saint Joan, etc. I am not an expert, and wouldn't get into a protracted debate with someone who claimed to be an expert. I figure it's a status or a rank, and only capitalized when connected to a name or specific person. Boneyard90 (talk) 05:11, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks. Ajaxfiore (talk) 06:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! Boneyard90 (talk) 12:31, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Precious[edit]

history and culture of Japan
Thank you for quality articles for project Japan, such as Lady Saigō who "established a charitable organization that assisted visually impaired women with no other means of support", and for maintaining and assessing the project's articles, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, what a unique & lovely award! Thank you!
Congratulations, you're a real inspiration to keep plugging away at Japanese-related articles. Prburley (talk) 18:47, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Three years ago, you were recipient no. 386 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture[edit]

Excuse me, but despite substantial reading in graduate school, I have never before encountered "architecture" being used for "organization and composition" of a dynasty. It would be appreciated if denigration via edit summary were absent. Nyttend (talk) 19:34, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article has had several hundred views per month over the last year, including the reviews necessary for DYK, GA, and FA, and no reader has ever voiced any concern over the use of the word "architecture" in the lead. And the Tokugawa shogunate was more than a dynasty, it was the administrative body that organized and governed the feudal states. It is reasonable to compare an organization with a building. It is acceptable to use the word "architecture" for structures that are not buildings. So in all your grad school reading, maybe you just haven't read a well-rounded selection of literature. I encourage you to broaden your reading list. Boneyard90 (talk) 20:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's not in my dictionary, and it's not in any of the readings or conversations I've had with any faculty here — and that includes people in your field, too. Since you didn't get it the first time, I'll say it more forcefully: WP:NPA. I don't care what you've written; when you confuse readers, do not insult them when they make things understandable. Nyttend (talk) 05:51, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What personal attacks? I made no personal attacks. You may have taken offense, but that's on you, because there were no personal attacks. Now, have I reverted your edit? I have not. I modified it to be more accurate, since it was apparent you understood neither the original word nor its context, but I did not re-place the original wording. And if you have not seen an acceptable definition in your dictionary, then I suggest you read past the first line, because here's what I read: Architecture (2): "the complex or carefully designed structure of something: [ex.] the chemical architecture of the human brain." (Oxford English Dictionary). So, it would seem you are in error. The question is, can you accept that and learn from your mistake? And do I have to copy this to your Talk page for you to see it? Boneyard90 (talk) 06:15, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Assessment[edit]

Well some have been sitting there for more than a month now. Eyes would be welcome. Arigato! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:45, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should add this to the project Talk page. I don't have to be the only one who assesses articles around here. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would you care to help me at Death by sawing?[edit]

Hi! I really appreciated how you helped me on Impalement. I have expanded, lately, Death by sawing, and I wondered if you might find the time to make some judicious changes there? I haven't finished the Morocco section yet, and the "Methods" section, from a previous editor will need a serious clean-up. I'll also make a "Cultural References" section. But, the rest is "my" stuff, and I'm sure it needs a second opinion to achieve quality. In advance, thanks for the help you've already provided. Arildnordby (talk) 22:55, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, sure! I'll take a look. My response time might not be as rapid as it was earlier on the Impalement article, just because I'm trying to maintain other aspects of work, etc. But sure, I'll take a look! Boneyard90 (talk) 18:28, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Take whatever time you need. ( I don't think this rather mythical (or at least sparsely evidenced) theme can be assessed higher than C-status, but improvements in layout and language will be much appreciated) Arildnordby (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of Travis Alexander article[edit]

Maybe you'd be interested in commenting in a discussion I started on the talk page about the tags an editor added?[15] Halo Jerk1 (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo[edit]

Did you intend to add Here Comes Honey Boo Boo to the Women's History WP? A contemporary reality show doesn't seem to fall in that project's scope. Theoldsparkle (talk) 17:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, a "reality show" that reflects a 21st century dysfunctional, irresponsible mother's views on child-raising, a child (girl) growing up the center of attention thinking her horrible diet and beauty pageants are "normal"... maybe it was a little tongue in cheek, maybe appropriate but sad & scary accuracy. I figured it had as much place in "Women's History" as Soccer mom. Remove the banner if you like, I won't protest. Thanks for taking the time to open dialogue. Boneyard90 (talk) 18:08, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have nominated for peer review[edit]

But, if you could take a quick look on whether the distilling of "Impalement", in particular wrt. new "Main Uses" section has been a good idea, I'd be grateful. Arildnordby (talk) 23:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Just remember that once you submit an article for Peer review or GA, it's supposed to be complete. It is supposed to be stable, meaning that you no longer wish to alter it or add substantially to the information. Maybe in peer review, you'll get a broader audience and genuine critique. Boneyard90 (talk) 00:50, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disembowelment[edit]

Can you please provide page numbers for the sources you cited here (Sub Rosa, Nam, and A Bright Shining Lie)? It would help ensure verifiability.75.63.54.56 (talk) 10:19, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. I'll look for those page numbers over the course of today & tomorrow. Boneyard90 (talk) 12:42, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't find page numbers for a couple sources, so I removed them for the time being. I'm sure the Sub Rosa source is still appropriate, but haven't been able to get to the library. If I can't by this weekend, I'll remove the source and all associated information, pending confirmation and page numbers. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:13, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can you confirm that A Bright Shining Lie makes no such claim--or were you merely unable to check the source? My local library might have a copy of that book, so if the latter is true I will try to find the page.75.63.54.56 (talk) 22:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I checked on-line, which I admit is not as thorough as having the book in-hand. I thought it was appropriate at the time I wrote the section, but my standards have risen since that time. I don't think the source is relevant at this point. Boneyard90 (talk) 23:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Saves me the trouble then.75.63.54.56 (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013[edit]

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WPJ Barnstar for your efforts![edit]

The WikiProject Japan Barnstar 2.0
I've noticed your work on assessing WP:JA articles lately, and I really appreciate all your hard work. It's a tedious job, and you've put in a lot of time doing it. Thanks!. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:03, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, wow! This is awesome! Thank you! Boneyard90 (talk) 01:59, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted you to know..[edit]

One of those "naying" GA on Impalement has now on Peer Review yeah'ed it. :-) I have asked a couple of guys I've helped to join at PR, prior to a new GA nomination. Thanks again for all the help you have provided with the article (the major changes since you commeted last is an expanded "Methods"-section, and a standardized, explicit bibliography). You've already helped me alot, so I'm not expecting anything more, but just wanted to notify you on the progress.Arildnordby (talk) 12:29, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's great to hear. I know you've put alot of time on it. Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 14:51, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re. Japanese language and computers[edit]

FYI: I have added

See also: Windows multilingual support

at the top of the Japanese IME article, to link to a new section that I have added to the Windows article. LittleBen (talk) 01:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley Smith[edit]

Hi! I took a look at this edit.

The Ashley Smith inquest was about the suicide of a person at a prison. Since the person's death is the central subject, wouldn't this make it a part of the project? Fatal plane crashes, murders, and suicides have been a part of the project, right? WhisperToMe (talk) 15:53, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I thought at first, but (and maybe I missed something during my initial reading) since the investigation failed to proceed due to mistrials, and failed to produce any conclusive results, the article is more about the failed legal proceeding than the suicide of the person, is it not? That's how I concluded. I don't feel too strongly about the issue, so if you honestly think the article fits in the project, or if I missed something when I read it, re-apply the banner, and no hard feelings here. Boneyard90 (talk) 15:58, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok :) WhisperToMe (talk) 17:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Downgrade Disembowelment to mid-importance?[edit]

Hi! I think that High importance on Wikiproject Death is a bit too high for a fairly obscure theme as disembowelment is. What do you think?Arildnordby (talk) 15:27, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think when I evaluated importance for Death, I gave all different forms of death a "High" importance; e.g. electrocution, shooting, strangling, etc. Something like the recent Suffocation in ash seemed like a sub-theme of suffocation/asphyxiation, and a very rarely seen one at that. Death by sawing is sort of a sub-theme of disembowelment, and applied in only a few countries. Disembowelment seems like a pretty unique way to die, with many sub-themes under it, and many forms or applications, whether punishment (in many countries!), suicide, accident, funeral prep (embalming), and even in food preparation (cleaning a fish, lobster (usually while alive), "field dressing" a deer (usually after death, sometimes while dying). On the other hand, for WP:Law or some of the regions that used it as punishment, I might think it's a Mid- or Low-importance. What do you think? Boneyard90 (talk) 16:00, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think your estimate of Suffocation in ash is completely correct, so this wasn't a sort of "vengeful tit-for-tat" suggestion on my part. I see your point about different forms of death, but I think "importance" is a product of "form" and "frequency", so that extremely rare (or merely alleged), but unique ways of dying may end up lower on importance, nonetheless, say onto mid-importance level.Arildnordby (talk) 16:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As for disembowelling animals, for different purposes, I'd keep this generally far removed from the given article, with a possible exception of disembowelment as a central feature in sacrifice (I'm preparing a human sacrifice section on Disembowelment right now, and at least mentioning of animal sacrifice and divination by means of entrails will be relevant for cases of similar alleged practices on Ancient Rome sub-section)Arildnordby (talk) 16:25, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think we've cooperated well & frequently enough that I wouldn't think anything malicious or undermining on your part. No worries on that end. But, you've done a load of research on the topic (I had forgotten about the whole "reading the entrails"! That was a huge part of Ancient Roman divination!) So, if you think disembowelment is sufficiently "rare" as to be "extremely rare" in history and in practice, then go ahead and take it down to mid-importance. If you don't mind, provide a short explanation on the Talk page, that way if any other editor has an opinion, they can engage in discussion. Boneyard90 (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rethinking, I believe it is premature to downgrade it right now. I'm in the process of data collection, and I would like to wait when the article has matured (or festered?? a bit. My initial..gut reaction was that if we let "disembowelment" (and primarily as a form of execution) a nasty way to die as HIGH importance, then we are basically setting it on the same level as decapitation, drowning, hanging, shooting etc. Clearly, if distinctiveness of mode of death should be the sole criterion of importance, then it should belong there, but I have coughed up an example of English torture (100-years War) where a rat was put in a bucket, strapped onto a guy's opened stomach, and the bucket then heated below, making the rat burrow itself into the wretch. Should that fairly unique way of death be regarded as of High importance as well? But, as said, I'll leave the matter as for now, for the moment.Arildnordby (talk) 16:48, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013[edit]

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Necropolitans of the world unite![edit]

Hey! A fellow ex-gravedigging wikipedian! There can't be many of us up in here.. We need our own userbox, I've had a gazillion jobs over the years, but I nearly always drop the old 'graaaavedigger' in there when people ask "what do you do?" It's such a good conversation starter/killer. Our wee crew toyed with the name "Boscombe Boneyard Boys" before quickly deciding it sounded a tad "fruity" for a bunch of manual-labourers. By miles the best job I ever had. [Rest in} Peace! Hillbillyholiday talk 18:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! Glad to make your acquaintance, and I like that term "necropolitan". I also like the idea of a userbox. I've only created one userbox, and I'm not completely sure I did it right. That might be something to think about this summer when I have some time. I've always had the idea that gravediggers have a different perspective on life and the world. Looks like you're pretty new around here. Let me know if I can help with anything! Boneyard90 (talk) 19:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers Boneyard, just read your coffin birth piece all agog and agape; I've heard many 'scratch mark on the coffin-lid' stories, but that is a new one on me. My old boss quit his job at the crematorium to work at the cemetery because, and I quote: "one of 'em sat up and looked at me". There seems to be a lot of debate as to whether this whole 'sitting-up in the furnace thing' is an urban myth or not. I know it can happen to the living when exposed to extreme heat (e.g. Pompeii), but corpses? On the subject of userboxes, it would be sweet to have a spooky old woodcut for the image, with the text reading something like: "don't piss this user off - you wouldn't be the first person they've had to bury.." Hillbillyholiday talk 20:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've heard of that phenomenon too, and it sounds like a well-known characteristic of burning/cremating. I couldn't find anything relevant on Wikipedia, but google the term "pugilistic posture". (Maybe I'll write the Wiki-article about that.) Muscle contractions draw the legs and arms toward the core, so "sitting up" seems like a plausible result in at least some cases. Glad you like the coffin birth article, of all those I've written, that definitely gets the most views. Boneyard90 (talk) 21:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can only see reference to "Pugilistic posture" at Forensic Fugues and Medicolegal Medleys(!) but funnily enough, the expression turned up (so to speak) in a BBC documentary about Pompeii just this week, when a forensic pathologist was examining various casts - stating the most likely cause of death was extreme heat. Hillbillyholiday talk 21:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
p.s. Estelle Lazer might help with your next DYK article. Hillbillyholiday talk 21:52, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
p.p.s. this! Lazer, Estelle (2009). Resurrecting Pompeii. Routledge. p. 88. ISBN 0203885163.
That's it. Looks like a pretty awesome book. I put that "pugilistic posture" into Google Images, and it gave me numerous graphic photos. Boneyard90 (talk) 22:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
alteration of holbein drawing

Glad you explained it in the edit-summary. I wasn't sure how to translate "kip". - Boneyard90 (talk) 12:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cultivar names[edit]

Hi, I've just reverted your change on Osmanthus, but made a red link in the edit summary. What I was trying to point to is WP:CULTIVAR, which explains that cultivar names should be placed within single quotes, as dictated by the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I'll try to remember that the next time I look at a plant article. Thanks for the explanation! Boneyard90 (talk) 14:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking that so well. Now if we could just get some of the style manuals that journalists use to pay a bit of respect to plants ... Sminthopsis84 (talk) 21:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gunto[edit]

<redacted> -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Momoiro Clover Z[edit]

Hi! Could you look at the Momoiro Clover Z article? I'm having a bit of problem at Template:Did you know nominations/Momoiro Clover Z, so I thought it would be preferable if someone looked at it before I reported on the nomination page that it was fixed and ready to go. Don't try too hard, just read it fast and correct the language a little bit if you can (to make it more articulate, less promotional, and more encyclopedic). --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:36, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Boneyard90 (talk) 20:16, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! Your Japanese is obviously much better than mine, could you look at this Hotexpress article that is used as a source for the DYK hook (ALT3, which is "... that Japanese idol group Momoiro Clover Z (pictured) never lip-synch in live performances, although their vocals are rendered unstable when coupled with their dance moves")? Can it be concluded from it that Momoiro Clover "never" lipsynchs? The article talks about their live sound and live, "raw" vocals and how they improve with each performance. Do you think it would be advisable to change "never" to "do not"? I have changed it to "does not" here in Momoiro Clover Z#Musical and visual style already, but I'm not sure if I should have done it or not. "Never" sounded better. --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! "Never" can be slightly problematic because it's so absolute. But you could probably say "have never lip-synched", that way it conveys the idea that have not lip-synched in their career until now (but you don't know about the future). Boneyard90 (talk) 23:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On the Lack of Citations[edit]

Hi Boneyard90. You have asked users to add citations to the article "Seclusions of Girls at Puberty". I changed [citation needed] tag by adding citations and also managed to add a new citation. Guess this is what you requested. D v 05:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Cleanup tags on Bandai High School[edit]

Hi,

You removed the {{orphan}} tag from Bandai High School after adding some outgoing links. That template refers to links coming into the article, and that article still doesn't have any links to it from any other article (see Special:WhatLinksHere/Bandai High School. As such, I've returned that tag and instead removed {{dead end}}, which does refer to outgoing links.

—me_and 09:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Boneyard90 (talk) 12:41, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2013 Hawija clashes:[edit]

I see you just assessed this article for WP:MILHIST. However, you did not complete the B Class Checklist ( {{WPMILHIST|class=Start|B1= |B2= |B3= |B4= |B5= }} 1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations. -- 2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies. 3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. 4. It is free from major grammatical errors. 5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. ) so it pops up as an article with an incomplete B Class assessment. Would you mind revisiting the article and completing the checklist. There are 20,000 artcles in the backlog for completing this checklist now. --Lineagegeek (talk) 22:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I was derelict in my assessment. I have rated it C-class, as I find it deficient in Coverage. According to a posted banner, the "Aftermath" is still undergoing expansion, and even if the banner was not there, the section looks a bit anemic. However, I will be happy to re-assess at a later date. -Boneyard90 (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please check Akira Shimada[edit]

Hello! Could you check Akira Shimada. Thank you. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 08:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! What an interesting article! I made some small changes for grammar and shortened the headings. The article is still a Start class, but I gave reasons and advice on the Yalk page. Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 14:52, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article assessment[edit]

Hi Boneyard90. As you're one of the more active assessors for WP:JP (I usually see you on talkpages within an hour of slapping a {{WikiProject Japan}} template on them) I wondered if I could ask for your suggestions on the Bonshō article I created yesterday. I've done a fair bit of expansion since you assessed it as B-class, and whilst there's no immediate need to reassess it (I've put it up for GA, so am perfectly happy to wait for the results of that) I would be grateful for a third-party opinion on what sort of improvements could be made. Any thoughts you have would be gratefully received. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 10:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. Yes, I do alot of the assessments. It started a couple years ago when the backlog was in the thousands, and the articles I wrote were sort of lost among them; then it turned into a quest to finish, and now it's a daily, momentary diversion to read new articles and keep the backlog clear. I've made a couple minor corrections or alterations to the article, which, by the way, is very nicely done.
  • By way of improvement, you could expand on the construction technique a bit; I wasn't really clear how it all worked with sand bricks and how the wooden template is "rotated". And how do they get the knobs and the engraved/embossed kanji on the outside of the bell? Is that part of the wooden template, or are they added after a "naked" bell is cast?
  • Speaking of the kanji, what is written on the bells?
  • You mention that the bell is rung at certain times of the day. In the town where I lived, I noticed the bells were rung at 5pm, and in some places at 7am and noon. Are those times common everywhere? If not, what times of the day are the bells rung, and how did the priests keep the time before watches & clocks were common?
  • You might mention the fate of some bells during the early Meiji period during the official separation of Buddhism and Shinto. I understand that many Buddhist temples and statues (and I think bells) were destroyed or buried, but I have no source.
  • Speaking of history, I notice the early history is pretty light. The oldest bell was cast in 698 CE. Is there any written or archaeological evidence of earlier bell use? Was it introduced to Japan along with Buddhism, or is this a Japanese invention? If there are no clear sources, you might mention when Buddhism was introduced, and the date of the oldest bell, to at least illustrate how closely one followed the other.
Hope these suggestion help. Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 23:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks immensely for these suggestions. I've located a few more sources and will have a crack at addressing at least some of the above today. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 08:53, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikimeetup Kentucky? Join us at THATCamp KY, June 1-2, 2013[edit]

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Hi Boneyard90! I'm helping to organize THATCamp Kentucky - June 1 & 2 at the University of Kentucky in Lexington. Take a look at the Tentative Schedule. Let's get together in person to work on Kentucky-related wikipedia pages, what do you say? If you have any questions, please email the THATCamp KY Organizer, Lee Skallerup Bessette (Morehead State University, @readywriting) at thatcampky@gmail.com. Please sign up to participate Wikimeetup Kentucky. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! Randolph.hollingsworth (talk) 16:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seibo Kitamura[edit]

Hey, nice additions to Seibo Kitamura. Just a question - do you have a source that claims that he "is most often referred to as 'Seibo'"? If it's true, then there's no problem referring to him as that in the article and I'll revert from Kitamura back to Seibo; otherwise it becomes problematic because of WP:NAMES. I know it's a difficult/weird thing to have an explicit citation for, but I figured I'd rather ask than litter the article with a "fact" tag. Canadian Paul 21:16, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. I thought one of the sources I added would have specified that, but looks like they don't. You might consider that the fourth source is to the "Seibo Memorial Hall". If you are considering changing the title of the article, it might be well enough to leave as is, since English sources probably don't favor one or the other. If you are considering whether Kitamura should be used in favor of "Seibo" in the text, it is not unusual among article on Japanese persons to favor the given name. But, if you want to remove that line from the lead, in which it says that he is "most often referred to as Seibo", I won't dispute it, since I don't have a source at the moment. Boneyard90 (talk) 21:36, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, forgot about this, sorry. Anyways, I think I'll just leave it as is for now. If someone else disputes it, they can remove it. Thanks for the input. Canadian Paul 20:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! Could you find the time to give a short intro review of Peter Niers?[edit]

Hi, Boneyard90! I just published Peter Niers outside the reviewing option, and have now a flag on the page saying it is unreviewed. If you could just look at it, see that it is sufficiently notable, and not unduly dependent on dubious source material, I would be very grateful.Arildnordby (talk) 12:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, interesting article. You might consider adding a legacy or cultural references section, if there's anything to be found. You mention the ballads in the text, so if that's all there is, no need to repeat that. Are there any memorials? Commemorative celebrations (that he was caught)? Is it stated where he was buried? Any other mention in literature or film? Good work though, I liked those articles on criminals in history. Everybody thinks that serial killers are products of the modern age, yet there were sickos all through history. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:21, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd love to add "cultural references", and more detailed expositions on them. If I could find it. On Christman Genipperteinga I added a lengthy analysis based on Wiltenburg's work on the historical and literary context in which the report on him appeared within. I could of course include that in Peter Niers as well, but I don't like to repeat myself... Furthermore, I have also included on Genipperteinga a detailed exposition of the different works in which he is mentioned throughout history; unfortunately, with Peter Niers there is a problem. The primary reports on Niers (referred to by Wiltenburg) are NOT publicly available, and I haven't found many others available, either. So, it is a kind of dearth in available source material here, although there exist, for example, MORE contemporary reports on Niers than on Genipperteinga. I just can't get hold of them. :-(Arildnordby (talk) 13:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A gift of knowledge to a very helpful gravedigger![edit]

Hi there! I thought about what appropriate gift I could give, and I then thought you've probably not heard of the old Norse custom of social security, the socalled "gravgangsmann ("grave walking man")"-system.

It was in place in Norway until 1267, when social security developed into that poor people could shuffle from farm to farm, and had a certain right, for a limited time, to live off the hospitality of the farmers.

The "gravgangsmann"-system is described as follows (concerning two freed-persons who marry), contained in an addition to the 10th century Gulatingslov ("The Law valid for the Thing at Gule"):

"Men um dei kjem i naud, då er det gravgangsmenn: ein skal grava grav på kyrkjegarden og setja dei i den og lata dei døy der. Skapdrotten skal taka upp den av dei som lever lengst og føda den sidan."

Translation:

"But, if they fall into need, then they have become grave walking men: One is to dig a grave on the church yard, and place them into it, and let them die there. Their previous master shall hoist up again the one who survives longest, and is obliged to feed him/her after that". http://www.hist.uib.no/grunnfag/kjelder/loysingslovgulating.htm

Very nice custom, don't you think? Arildnordby (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The section[edit]

God damn it's just a fucking section that's directly related to one you should have but didn't make yesterday.—Ryulong (琉竜) 04:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Help![edit]

I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but I'm just starting to contribute to wikipedia and noticed a comment you made to a user. I was hoping you wouldn't mind showing me some of the "ropes" possibly? I apologize if this should not be posted here, but I don't know of any other way to communicate directly with someone...Jamodalamo

Sure, what can I help with? Do you have specific questions? Boneyard90 (talk) 14:38, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the assistance! I appreciate the links you posted on my talk page. That's basically all I've been looking for! I know that anyone can make edits to virtually anything, but I was having trouble trying to determine specifically what other people were looking for until I discovered the talk page for each article.

I don't want to just make edits based on my personal preferences...I want to experience the changes democratically with a group and also abide by the agreed criteria. I discovered "task forces" and "wiki projects" but I'm not entirely sure of how to join/engage them properly. Are you a part of these kinds of groups? If so, would you mind showing me how to do so?

I really appreciate the help! If am bothering you, please feel free to direct me to someone who specializes in inducting new members. I want to contribute to the site more, but I don't want to do it alone...Jamodalamo (talk) 01:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessments[edit]

Hey. Came across your assessments and re-assessments, which I appreciate you doing; it's an underrepresented part of the site. However, when you do reassessments, can you make sure to do so for all project banners, rather than just Japan? If something's C-class for Japan for example, no reason to have the other projects say they're stubs. Wizardman 23:50, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't do that because other projects have their own criteria. For example, I've come across many earthquake articles, that according to the geology project, they were "B-class", because there was a lot of technical detail on plate tectonic movement and subduction and whatnot; however, I assessed some of them C-class or even Start, because for all that geological detail, there was very little or nothing about the local impacts, such as emergency response, casualties, or economic impact, which is more the concern of WP:Japan. So based on that, I would say different projects have their own criteria for "coverage" or "accessibility". Boneyard90 (talk) 06:31, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Help in maintaining NPOV on historical Pacific War aviator[edit]

Hi Boneyard90. Because you listed "Japanese military history" as an area of interest on the WikiProject Military history page, and because of your background of living in Japan, I thought you might be able to lend some help.

I'm looking for some third parties to review a problem editor who (in my opinion) continues to violate the NPOV policy of Wikipedia on the page of a Pacific War aviator, Mitsuo Fuchida. After exhausting myself trying to maintain viable content in the "Controversy" section, I'm asking for a page ban for this user. If you have time and motivation, I'd really appreciate your consideration to review this issue. The Noticeboard Request is to be found here: [16] I hate to take anyone's time, but this problem is why many won't trust Wikipedia. Thanks for your consideration.--TMartinBennett (talk) 18:42, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for taking the time to write. I'll try to familiarize myself with the situation and participate in the article's maintenance. Boneyard90 (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:FOUR RFC[edit]

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WP:Japan and WP:Anime and Manga[edit]

I was not aware, no. Thanks - next set of anime/manga articles I look for I'll tag accordingly. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:53, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Boneyard90 (talk) 17:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for WP Japan assessments plus a small request[edit]

A huge thank you for your efforts in helping to clear the backlog of WP Japan unassessed articles, I've been noticing them very frequently recently! If it's not too much trouble, I would appreciate it greatly if you could give a quick WPJ rating to an article I've been working on, Fuku Suzuki - being a new editor I simply don't know how far along the class spectrum it is. I've also tried to clear the backlog of rating the countless number of stub-low importance articles (usually stations) to save the more experienced editors the trouble. I hope my edits are uncontroversial but if you happen to stumble across an error I've made I would appreciate it if you could inform me. Thank you greatly in advance, I am sorry if I have caused any inconvenience/made a request I am not supposed to have made JTST4RS (talk) 21:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article assessed: B-class. Good job! Yes, I work on the backlog of unassessed articles. I cleared it out once, but then I tagged a bunch of other articles, and started all over again. And of course, I appreciate all the additional work on assessments. I also try to mark the assessments with the appropriate task force. Good luck! Boneyard90 (talk) 21:17, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Special Barnstar
Thank you for the prompt response, the act of kindness, the sound advice as well as in general for the countless other article assessments - fortunately I have been assigning the stub/start articles to task forces! JTST4RS (talk) 21:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, awesome! What a great way to start the day! Boneyard90 (talk) 12:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history coordinator election[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXXX, September 2013[edit]

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Thanks for your improvements[edit]

at White Massacre. I did undo one of them which was an odd thing with [brackets] and in any case was changing something that was inside a quote. You are still batting 97% on that edit, an average will get you into the Hall of Fame any time. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:10, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you approve. Yes, I replaced the abbreviation "cmdng" with the fully spelled out word "commanding", for clarification. When a change is made in a quote, which does not change the meaning of the quote (as in that case), it is standard procedure, and acceptable, and grammatically correct, to put the new word(s) in brackets. Such as if the quote says "He went..." and you want to specify the individual's name, you might write "[John Smith] went...." The meaning is not changed, but the exact words are. But, if you prefer the quote as it was written, no problems here. Thanks for writing! - Boneyard90 (talk) 17:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was not aware of that convention (I seem to have missed a lot of them) and will have no problem reverting my edit. Carptrash (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion for Personifications of death in American media[edit]

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Discussion at Talk:Shark_Island_Extermination_Camp#Requested_move_2[edit]

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Question re: assessing merged articles for WPJ[edit]

Question: how do I assess a merged article, e.g. "Talk:The Girl Who Overcame Time... and the Boy Who Was Just Overcome (InuYasha episode)", which is now part of the List of InuYasha episodes? Do I simply remove the project pages from the merged article, the aim being to remove them from the list of Unknown-importance Japan-related articles? Thanks always ---> Prburley (talk) 13:50, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, remove the WP:Japan banner and add {{WikiProject Anime and Manga}}. Articles about anime & manga topics are covered by WP:Anime & Manga only. The exceptions are those articles about artists, actors, or creators (biographies), articles with real time movie information, or about some topic significant to Japan (I think Grave of the Fireflies is an article covered by these last two). WP:A&M and WP:Japan reached this agreement some years ago. Otherwise there would be way too much overlap. All those anime articles were recently added by some editor who didn't know any better, and actually labelled several as "WP:TV", when the articles are about movies or books, so he really didn't look too hard before he slapped WP:Japan all over everything. I have written the editor and he has ceased his sudden tagging mission. However, in a similar case, you would assess it a Redirect article, and fill in "Red" in the assessment. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:24, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Couldn't be happier to do so, not an anime/manga fan here. Thanks again. ---> Prburley (talk) 15:00, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue XCI, October 2013[edit]

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Lost Art talk page archive[edit]

Recently you reverted and edit I made to List of missing treasure claiming "Rv deletion. See talk page archives.". However, the talk page does not appear to have an archive. I'd like to look over what you think you are referring to. If it truly doesn't exist then I'll undo your reversion. War (talk) 20:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My bad. I remember talking about this with another editor, and thought it was on the article's Talk page. Maybe it was an editor's personal page. Anyway, - oh, looks like you already reverted without discussion. Ok, I'll go tot he article's talk page. - Boneyard90 (talk) 20:46, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I dug around hoping that somehow I'd missed the archive somewhere. Finally I looked that the complete history of the both the article and the talk page and saw that there was no discussion. Since the article concerns actual items that existed and there is virtually no evidence that the arc even existed, it does not belong on the page. If you disagree, please bring it up on the articles talk page.War (talk) 20:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:03, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Do you have the time to review an article?[edit]

Hello, Boneyard90! I have an article, Blowing from a gun that for three months now is without a GA reviewer. If you have the time to look at it, I would be very grateful, or if you have suggestions for other individual editors at Wikipedia that I might approach. (I fully understand if you don't want to get involved)Arildnordby (talk) 16:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! Hope all is going well. What a great, detailed article. unfortunately, no, I do not have time right now to get involved with a GA review, mostly due to work deadlines. It is unfortunate that the article has been allowed to languish like that. I suggest User:Canadian Paul, who is both fair and experienced; or User:Satu Saro who is very involved with WP:Death. Good luck. - Boneyard90 (talk) 16:45, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestions! Real life challenges are such a bore, aren't they? :-) Anyhow, good luck, and thanks again for suggestions!Arildnordby (talk) 16:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue XCII, November 2013[edit]

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Added to DYK nom[edit]

For your assistance, even though it was small, in expanding and improving Murder of Sherri Rasmussen I have added you to the DYK nomination I just made for the expanded article. Daniel Case (talk) 22:28, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that was pretty darn thoughtful of you! And congratulations on your hard work! - Boneyard90 (talk) 15:48, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Era[edit]

Hi. Please don't change the era notation, see WP:Era in bold: "Do not change the established era style in an article". Gun Powder Ma (talk) 19:54, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Shooting of Trayvon Martin page question[edit]

Hello! I am an artist and anthropologist working on a project about the shooting of Trayvon Martin. I would like to ask you some questions about your involvement and work on the wikipedia page as part of my research. I do not know the best way to contact you but would love to talk further about your involvement and why you are interested. Thanks for listening, please be in touch. Wordisbond17 (talk) 00:35, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. See Wikipedia:Emailing users for how to contact me in a non-Wikipedia medium. - Boneyard90 (talk) 15:54, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, did you ever get that email I sent your way? 70.109.163.223 (talk) 21:34, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't. I am so sorry, it might have escaped my notice. Early December was a very hectic time for me. Please send it again, and I'll be on the look-out for it. - Boneyard90 (talk) 22:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem! I sent it through again, let me know if you've gotten it. Thanks again. Wordisbond17 (talk) 01:31, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Murder of Sherri Rasmussen[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue XCIII, December 2013[edit]

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Your edit text says "gf ..."[edit]

Hi. What is "gf incorrect edit"? Speling12345 (talk) 5:43, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

"Good faith incorrect edit". The information content or grammar was incorrect, but it was done in good faith, not a policy violation, or vandalism or whatever. - Boneyard90 (talk) 03:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Is it good to undo the reversal? I am sure that whatever grammar was wrong on the Japanese_castle page, I made the grammar right. That is, the single sentence that I modified. I did not attempt to edit more items on the page. If I had overhauled the article then it would have been very difficult to identify what I changed. And by overhauled, I mean basically changed the article text entirely by writing less than half but almost half of the article from the very beginning. Instead of adding more I put a word or two in to keep the sentence as separate as rightly possible. Speling12345 (talk) 6:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for writing. You're right, the grammar was not incorrect, it was the content. You changed this sentence: "Japanese castles (城) were fortresses constructed primarily of wood and stone.", to this sentence: "Japanese castles (城) were used by Japanese as fortresses constructed primarily of wood and stone." - Before the article, any article, states how or by whom something was used, the opening sentence needs to define the topic as succinctly as possible. After that, and sometimes as part of the same sentence, comes the how/by whom. I have problem with stating the castles were used "as fortresses". They were fortresses. They were, at different times and places, used as administrative centers, militar headquarters, daimyo's residences, statements of power, etc., all of which is why they fit the definition of castle, but they were in form and function fortresses. A true castle is a fortress first, and its adjunct functions and outer architecture are what distinguish it as a specific type of fortress. The inclusion of "by Japanese" is redundant. The topic is "Japanese castles"; therefore, would we also state they were in Japan, or even primarily in Japan? Because they're "Japanese castles", it should be understood that they were both in Japan, and used by the same people. If most Japanese castles were found outside Japan, that would need immediate clarification, and if the subject was Shiro, as some editors have suggested, then both location and people would need to be specified in the opening sentence. I hope this explains my position. - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:49, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Cities Comment[edit]

Hello Boneyard: WikiProject Cities is a separate WikiProject from WikiProject Japan, and is thus not redundant in Shingō, Aomori. Per such examples as Talk:Shanghai, Talk:Paris, Talk:Mumbai, etc., Wikiproject Cities co-exists with the local WikiProject, even if the WikiProject includes a "municipalities" or similar task force. --MChew (talk) 07:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but you used a "WP:Japan" assessment banner. A second one. Take a second look here. - Boneyard90 (talk) 14:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hokkaido wolf‎[edit]

A subspecies cannot be a subspecies of another subspecies. Makes no logical sense, and is unsourced. FunkMonk (talk) 07:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I was about to revert precisely because it is sourced (Kishida 1931). Not sure what you mean.
Genus= Canis
Species= lupus
Subspecies= hattai
Actually, I think I see the problem. The "Subspecies" in the infobox leads to Honshu wolf. That looks like the factual inaccuracy. - Boneyard90 (talk) 07:13, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, which is what I removed. The subspecies name is already listed under "Trinomial name", the subspecies field only belongs in species level articles. FunkMonk (talk) 07:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. You are correct. I should have looked into it further. My apologies. - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:49, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014[edit]

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Precious again[edit]

history and culture of Japan
Thank you for quality articles for project Japan, such as Lady Saigō who "established a charitable organization that assisted visually impaired women with no other means of support", and for maintaining and assessing the project's articles, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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A year ago, you were the 386th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize,

Such a lovely and original award, thank you! - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:38, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

a significant change about Nanking Massacre[edit]

There is a significant change about Nanking Massacre. Hence I create a new discussion topic about it and hope more editor can join it. I want a consensus about it. Please see the talk page of Nanking Massacre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miracle dream (talk • contribs) 20:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014[edit]

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Ugly ownership screaming at Hanged, Drawn and Quartered[edit]

Unfortunately, there is a cabal at Hanged, Drawn and Quartered who refuses inclusion of the following template there: {{Capital Punishment}} I think the template is very illumanitave, and should be de rigeur at execution pages. What do you think?Arildnordby (talk) 10:41, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Parrot of Doom is evidently a hysterical Owner, time to take the whole charade to ANI??[edit]

Look how he edit summarizes now: "it's still an ugly template which has no place here." This is for a bottom line green edit.

He clearly has severe problems in understanding he doesn't own the article.. Arildnordby (talk) 19:35, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Arildnordby, please be aware that an ANI posting would likely have a boomerang effect: while Parrot has not been polite, nor have you, and his frustration with your edit-warring is understandable. I would advise that to present your argument once without personalizing the issue or attacking others as "hysterical" or cabalists, and then allow consensus to develop, even if it ends up not agreeing with you. At this point, you're not helping your case. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
An editor who can't come up with other comments than private emotional sentiments like "huge", "ungainly", "ugly", is quite rightly to be placed in ownership mode.Arildnordby (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. One location, one debate, no name-calling. We can't call people cabal, or Commie (which is what I like to call people at work), or crazy loon (which got a different editor banned), or anything. Keep it on the level. Find the best place for the debate, and see it through. - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to bring it over here, where it simply doesn't belong, including, in particular, my own huffs of indignation.Arildnordby (talk) 14:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's cool. - Boneyard90 (talk) 15:47, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to Nikkimaria as well, to give me a polite, and well-deserved, kick in the butt as well. :-) Mea culpa.Arildnordby (talk) 15:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Immigration to Japan[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for adding WP:RYUKYU on talk pages! ミーラー強斗武 (talk) 19:32, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue XCVI, March 2014[edit]

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Your time on Wikipedia[edit]

This user has been on Wikipedia for 16 years, 7 months and 6 days.

6 years, 6 months, and 6 days! What a coincidence. I am just at present listening to a song from 666 (Aphrodite's Child album). 83.6.177.147 (talk) 22:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For always keeping up with me, rating articles and adding taskforces to talk pages! ミーラー強斗武 (talk) 14:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
He, way cool, thank you! Just doing what we all like to do! - Boneyard90 (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Haha keep it up! ミーラー強斗武 (talk) 17:22, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Curb stomp[edit]

Were you able to find incidents of curb stomping prior to American History X? I believe it was that movie that "invented" it, but that word is too strong. I wasn't able to find reports prior, maybe you have some more luck. Valoem talk contrib 20:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked, and I plan on doing some more searching with other terms, but I have not found any published examples before the movie. I also did not find any published source that says the movie invented the term or act. There are many people on the internet that seem convinced that the movie depiction is the first, but no good evidence. The reason I took an interest is because I heard of the act before the movie came out. I heard of it between 1994 and 1996, as part of urban gang culture. So I thought the best neutral, NPOV thing to do would be to delete it from the Lead. There are no sources to back up one side or the other yet, but I was hoping to at least keep the article from perpetuating the idea that the movie invented it, while the writers may have borrowed it from a real-life case. - Boneyard90 (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Ashita, Haru ga Kitara[edit]

Hi there! User:Ryoga Godai is attempting to get the article Ashita, Haru ga Kitara to good article status eventually. Would it be okay if you spent a couple of minutes having a look at it and checking the B-Class criteria, if that's not too much trouble? Thanks for always checking through mine, by the way! --Prosperosity (talk) 13:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - B-class. Good luck! - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Spotlight - Simplified article translation

Wikiproject Medicine started translating simplified articles in February 2014. We now have 45 simplified articles ready for translation, of which the first on African trypanosomiasis or sleeping sickness has been translated into 46 out of ~100 languages. This list does not include the 33 additional articles that are available in both full and simple versions.

Our goal is to eventually translate 1,000 simplified articles. This includes:

We are looking for subject area leads to both create articles and recruit further editors. We need people with basic medical knowledge who are willing to help out. This includes to write, translate and especially integrate medical articles.

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I've (CFCF) taken on the role of community organizer for this project, and will be working with this until December. The goals and timeline can be found here, and are focused on getting the project on a firm footing and to enable me to work near full-time over the summer, and part-time during the rest of the year. This means I will be available for questions and ideas, and you can best reach me by mail or on my talk page.

Wikimania 2014

For those going to London in a month's time (or those already nearby) there will be at least one event for all medical editors, on Thursday August 7th. See the event page, which also summarizes medicine-related presentations in the main conference. Please pass the word on to your local medical editors.

Integration progress

There has previously been some resistance against translation into certain languages with strong Wikipedia presence, such as Dutch, Polish, and Swedish.
What was found is that thre is hardly any negative opinion about the the project itself; and any such critique has focused on the ways that articles have being integrated. For an article to be usefully translated into a target-Wiki it needs to be properly Wiki-linked, carry proper citations and use the formatting of the chosen target language as well as being properly proof-read. Certain large Wikis such as the Polish and Dutch Wikis have strong traditions of medical content, with their own editorial system, own templates and different ideas about what constitutes a good medical article. For example, there are not MEDRS (Polish,German,Romanian,Persian) guidelines present on other Wikis, and some Wikis have a stronger background of country-specific content.

  • Swedish
    Translation into Swedish has been difficult in part because of the amount of free, high quality sources out there already: patient info, for professionals. The same can be said for English, but has really given us all the more reason to try and create an unbiased and free encyclopedia of medical content. We want Wikipedia to act as an alternative to commercial sources, and preferably a really good one at that.
    Through extensive collaborative work and by respecting links and Sweden specific content the last unintegrated Swedish translation went live in May.
  • Dutch
    Dutch translation carries with it special difficulties, in part due to the premises in which the Dutch Wikipedia is built upon. There is great respect for what previous editors have created, and deleting or replacing old content can be frowned upon. In spite of this there are success stories: Anafylaxie.
  • Polish
    Translation and integration into Polish also comes with its own unique set of challenges. The Polish Wikipedia has long been independent and works very hard to create high quality contentfor Polish audience. Previous translation trouble has lead to use of unique templates with unique formatting, not least among citations. Add to this that the Polish Wikipedia does not allow template redirects and a large body of work is required for each article.
    (This is somewhat alleviated by a commissioned Template bot - to be released). - List of articles for integration
  • Arabic
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Ross Parker FAC[edit]

I don't know if you remember, but you rated the murder of Ross Parker article a couple of years back and advised on submitting it for Good Article review. FYI I've made quite a few improvements since it achieved GA status and so I've submitted it as a featured article candidate. If you're interested in the topic or in featured article assessments then perhaps you'd like to help with the review? [20] Thanks.--Shakehandsman (talk) 19:05, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fujiwara no Nakamaro Rebellion assessment[edit]

Hi! Thanks for the copy-edits and the assessment of Fujiwara no Nakamaro Rebellion. Since you assessed as "Supporting materials: criterion not met", I was wondering how to improve this point. I was looking very hard, but did not find any illustrations of the main subjects (Nakamaro, Koken, Dokyo) anywhere, that could be used with suitable license (i.e. sufficiently old). Seems like they were too controversial to be popular in the arts!? I could put pictures of people who played a minor role in the conflict (Shomu, Kibi no Makibi), but I think that would give them too much prominence and could cause confusion. Personally I am not too fond of infoboxes for battles/rebellions, but if you think that could be useful, I could hack one up. bamse (talk) 21:01, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. Yes, the infobox was primarily what I was thinking of as far as "supporting materials". I also did a quick Google image search and didn't see anything relevant. I know some people don't care for infoboxes, but for a quick reference for when and who was involved, I think they're useful. Other than that, it's a B-class article. If you really think the article can't be improved with an infobox, I'll re-assess it. - Boneyard90 (talk) 14:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CI, August 2014[edit]

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NHK Cup (shogi)[edit]

Hi Boneyard90,

I saw that you evaluated NHK Cup (shogi) for WP:JAPAN. Your evaluated the article as not meeting the criterion for referencing and citation. Do you have a specific suggestions on what kinds of improvements should be made so that this is no longer an issue? Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 01:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. I assessed it deficient in citations because there was factual claims made without in-line citations in the first five paragraphs of the History section, in the 1st, 3rd, or 4th paragraphs of the Format section, or the next three sub-sections, most of the items in the Tournament Records, only one in the Broadcasts section, and none in the "Notable happenings" section (which is an odd name for a section header, by the way). When all factual claims have an in-line citation tied to a reliable source, the article will be considered to have met the criteria for References & Citations. Hope this helps. - Boneyard90 (talk) 15:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply Boneyard90. I'll respond below, but maybe it would be better to move this to the article's talk page to make it easier for others to follow. What do you think?
Much of that information in the article was translated from it's corresponding Japanese Wikipedia page. There are not many third party sources regarding shogi the tournament in English; there's some user-generated stuff, i.e., blogs and wikis, but many of those would not satisfy WP:RSnot a lot of info and a lot of it is not correct. I have been looking through various Japanese sources to see which are OK for use, and have used what I felt I could. Most of the tournament record facts could be cited using this. Just not sure if a citation needs to be added for each line or just one for the entire section as a whole. The same page as well as the tournament's NHK page could also be used for the format section. These are primary sources, and have already been cited for certain things in the article so I am just searching for some different ones as support. The "Notable happenings" was just my attempt at translating the word エピソード. I felt that most literal translation "Episodes" seemed like it would might lead readers to think of "TV Episodes". I also considered "Anecdotes", but the nuance seemed a bit different. Maybe simply "Notable" would have been a better choice. If you have any other suggestions or comments please post them on Talk:NHK Cup (shogi) or feel free to add them directly to the article. Also, please do not hesitate in adding {{citation needed}} templates to the article wherever you deem necessary. I know you don't need my permission to do so and I'm not trying to give it to you; Those templates would not only be helpful to me, but also to other editors who might want to take a crack at improving the article. Thanks again for the review and feedback. - Marchjuly (talk) 22:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You recens pleas ...[edit]

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the details in the press,
the people of the State of Oklahoma,



intimidate as well as guests, anjagen fear.
Potential criminals deterred? Seksuele offenses bow?
Quellsam dying condemned to so-called 'US -

WHOI> send? To their family members, former friends or acquaintances 

zufälige to "the father God"

with nightmares come at night?


The will hear voices "of Allah", 

"Jesus"  or "Buddha"? Never Again
breaking the law? If the population of Oklahoma


believes that it is possible to use 

the exploit successes of medicine

and isoteric Kentnise for the punishment of criminals, executions ...

If the European, more humane experience, preventive effect on potential criminals, 

delinquents, social parasites,
as well as prisoners


in Gefängnise, as well as competitors on the labor market, so-called asylum - seekers. Federal or Local Kortikosteroida - programs for the


systematic, secret but humane elimination of risk of serious sexual offenses, social unrest, mass protests. This is also good for the


reduction of competition in the labor market by the illegal, semi-legal, unwanted, foreign workers and migrants. Kortikosteroida - Program is 

here for many years. Under the guise of charity, especially Christiche help to the needy.Exestieren great positive experience. No objections

from the public, the press or foreign governments!

Because,-"Jesus tolerated and for us to leave that!"


Europe-wide support and understanding. In particular, the States, as large Preachers of Christian values worldwide.Mattgirling23 (talk) 16:37, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

umm..... what...? - Boneyard90 (talk) 17:44, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, me neither! matt (talk) 07:50, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Assessment[edit]

Can you help me do the assessment for the Daisaku Ikeda. It is still in the start class. I think it is in between C and B class. Kelvintjy (talk) 03:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, as long as there is no conflict of interest, and you didn't write any major portion of the article. Follow these steps:
  1. There looks to be plenty of sources, so you should go to the Daisuke Ikeda#Biography section, delete the "References needed" banner, and explain in the edit field what you did.
  2. Go to the Talk page.
  3. Hit Edit, at the top.
  4. Fill in "B" or "C" next to |class=
  5. Hit "Preview" at the bottom.
  6. In the WP:Japan, highlight and copy B-list criteria.
  7. Scroll down to the edit field, and paste those criteria next to the class=
  8. Fill in yes or no to all the B-class criteria. For a B-class article, all fields must be filled in with yes. The article will be C-class if any or blank, or marked "no".
  9. Fill in the edit field with your action.
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Hope this helps! - Boneyard90 (talk) 12:22, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, there is a conflict of interest for me and I also have contribute some portion of the article. The reason why I ask you is because you are involved in assessing majority of the WikiProject For Japan. I am on the Soka Gakkai side and I see the need to someone neutral in doing the assessment. Kelvintjy (talk) 15:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. Sure, I'll take a look and re-assess, probably later today. - Boneyard90 (talk) 17:39, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Single and double quotation marks[edit]

Hi Boneyard90. Saw your edit summary on this edit ("Quotation marks, not apostrophes"). Just want to share that British English often uses the single quotation mark where American English would use the double quotation mark (see Comparison of American and British English § Quoting). So whether to change it or stet will depend on which national variety an article uses (per WP:ENGVAR). Cheers, Quercus solaris (talk) 22:08, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. I didn't know it was an Am/Br variation. I thought it was just lazy writing, and/or apathy for correct punctuation. I'm somewhat troubled by this, as the link you provided also called it "new English" style. However, I will, in the future, take note of the spelling, etc. in the article, and determine if it is US or UK English that's being used. Thank you for writing. - Boneyard90 (talk) 22:16, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Coordinate formats.[edit]

I just stumbled upon this edit from almost four years ago, where the coords were changed from degrees/minutes/seconds format to decimal degrees without any translation taking place, i.e. using the same digits as a different type of value. Do you suspect there may be more of these to fix? jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 02:27, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. That edit was part of a larger effort I had undertaken to place infoboxes in cemetery articles. As I recall, I did not just fill in numbers arbitrarily; but I believe I clicked on the coordinates at the bottom of the article to get a geographical information page, which may have had the coordinates in other systems. Now whether that page was set up incorrectly or not, is a different matter. But if the coordinates were filled in incorrectly, there may be a whole load of articles that need to be repaired. - Boneyard90 (talk) 06:20, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was imagining something like that being the case. Well... I'll fix any that I find, good excuse to go on a tour of cemeteries... jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 07:02, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
UPDATE: After skimming through the edits from 2011 with "cemetery infobox" in the summary, there were only a few that involved the coord format conversion, and all but two of those were translated correctly, so it doesn't look like a widespread problem. --jnkyrdsprkl (talk) 10:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear that. Thank you for your efforts and the update. - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:48, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious again[edit]

history and culture of Japan
Thank you for quality articles for project Japan, such as Lady Saigō who "established a charitable organization that assisted visually impaired women with no other means of support", and for maintaining and assessing the project's articles, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Two years ago, you were the 386th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And a very original and unexpected award it was! Thank you! - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Whitman[edit]

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Sakanaction page reviews[edit]

Hi there! I'm currently going through Sakanaction's album and single articles and beefing them up. I've put up Go to the Future for review; would you be able to have a look at it and see if it makes a B-grading? --Prosperosity (talk) 09:56, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - B-class, and great job! - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:05, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thanks! I've also gone ahead and done Night Fishing (album), Shin-shiro (album), "Sen to Rei" and "Native Dancer (song)", and I'll hopefully get through the rest of them when I'm a bit more free. --Prosperosity (talk) 21:58, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Request while you're updating Japanese train article talk pages[edit]

I've noticed you've been updating various article talk pages related to trains in Japan. While you're doing that, will you change the "Wikiproject Trains" template to be the "Trains in Japan" template, and also remove the "|Japan=yes" from the template? Here's an example. I appreciate any help. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:17, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just go through all the stations when I find a line that hadn't been assessed. And there have been many, many stations that were only claimed by the Train WP, and not Japan. I'll try to meet your request, but no promises. What is the difference in the templates, anyway? - Boneyard90 (talk) 21:19, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No problems, just as you can. The difference (currently) is that only the "Trains in Japan" template will place them in the correct category by quality. I'm working to get that fixed, but no idea when that will happen. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Japanese filmmakers[edit]

Hello! Just FYI, {{WikiProject Film}} does not cover biography articles such as actors and filmmakers, those articles are covered by adding |filmbio-work-group=yes to {{WikiProject Biography}} instead. This applies to all of the film task forces as well, which means that the Japanese cinema task force does not include articles about Japanese actors, directors and filmmakers, and consequently should not have the |cinema=yes parameter on the {{WikiProject Japan}} banner. Thanks! Fortdj33 (talk) 18:27, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Thank you, I did not know that. I have tagged hundreds of biography articles with the cinema task force. Wish I had known sooner. I'll keep it in mind in the future. - Boneyard90 (talk) 18:58, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Wagner Lopes[edit]

You removed the WP:Japan tag from Talk:Wagner Lopes. Are Japanese international footballers not part of the scope of the WikiProject? Hack (talk) 03:44, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't think so. They worked in Japan, but I don't see how it's significant. I think it would be different if he coached winning teams or changed the sport somehow, but just because he played seems a trivial contribution to the nation. I've never gotten a clear decision on this sort of thing, so bring it up on the project talk page and solicit opinions. It could be the majority of editors feel that such article are within the scope of the project. - Boneyard90 (talk) 18:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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New WikiProject Death Task Force?[edit]

Hi, I noticed you are fairly active with WikiProject Death articles, especially with evaluations, and I was wondering if you would be able to assist me with possibly starting a new task force for the project. I discovered that there is a Suicide task force that has been already stated and I was hoping to possibly have a "murder" or "homicide" task force, since there have been many articles on such topic. What do you think?

Thanks! --GouramiWatcherTalk 17:34, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thanks for contacting me. You raise an interesting possibility, that I have to admit, I've sometimes thought about. Many projects have very specific task forces that allow for better categorization of articles and for editors to focus in on their prime interest. I've thought about this, but never acted, partly because I've never been quite sure of the level of involvement of WP:Death members. I've only had interactions with one or two, and the talk board goes through dry spells. The Suicide Task Force was originally a separate project. One editor had noticed that the activity level was so low, the members had all effectively retired, and also the articles were relatively few, and the content easily fell within the Death Project. Almost all of those article were tagged with both WP:Death and WP:suicide. So she went about converting WP:Suicide to the Suicide TF of WP:Death. I've never been involved with any of the behind the scenes activity associated with creating a project or a task force. You might contact User:Jeraphine Gryphon, the editor who created the Suicide TF, as I believe she did almost all the work herself. - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:20, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As one of the founders of the death project, I first though that a murder/homicide task force would be better with crime/criminal biography.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Death#A_suggestion - however looking at the death template that is at the foot of some pages, it really shows up as the better location at the death project. Please could we continue the conversation there. I support the idea, but personal talk pages arent the best place to continue such a discussion. JarrahTree 13:34, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You never can tell which way the wind blows in this funny old place, clearly a humourless balkanised subject. Wow in some cultures, a skull is the least offensive part of ways of dealing with death. JarrahTree 22:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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DonIago: If you are watching this page, which I hope you are even though you posted an automated message, then you should be able to tell that I am not new to Wikipedia, and the edit I made was intentional and I would argue justifiable. You reverted my edit with the explanation that the plot summary was "vastly too long", though this is completely subjective. I won't argue over the matter, but if you feel so strongly as to revert my edit due to disagreement, then I suggest you edit the plot summary instead of quibbling over maintenance templates. - Boneyard90 (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you're not new, then I would argue that you should review WP:FILMPLOT, which stipulates that plot summaries should be 400-700 words. The summary from which you removed the maintenance template is currently over 900. In that case, removal of the template would clearly seem to be inappropriate unless there is a consensus to keep the summary long at the article's Talk page. As for your suggestion that I edit it myself, if you review the article's history you will see that I have on multiple occasions. The length of the summary is a secondary issue; your removal of the template due to the fact that you were apparently unaware of the guideline was the larger concern. DonIago (talk) 05:01, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll say you make a good point on the film plot guideline, and maybe that should go in your automated post, rather than the condescending d-bag tone you currently use. But 700 words, 900 words, seems like an inconsequential quibble. - Boneyard90 (talk) 16:11, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you think the tone of the advisory template is inappropriate, you should bring that up at the Talk page for the template. If you think the currently overly-long summary is appropriate and shouldn't be tagged, you should bring that up at the article's Talk page. What you shouldn't do is remove a template pointing out that the summary is exceeding the guideline and that shortening it wouldn't be such a bad thing when the summary is in fact exceeding the guideline and that shortening it wouldn't be such a bad thing. DonIago (talk) 18:35, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Or I can just advise you that you don't have to use the template. I've already conceded you've made your point. No need to beat a dead horse. Unless you're trying to capture the tone of the template you use. - Boneyard90 (talk) 18:53, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the advisory. DonIago (talk) 19:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"Slang"[edit]

Hello Boneyard. I was slightly bemused by your edit summary here. The term "MP" is not slang – it's the formal/official name for members of parliament. See, for instance, the British parliament website. Cheers, Number 57 10:56, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for writing. No need for bemusement. Let me explain: When used in the context of a different government, the abbreviation is slang. The National Diet has its members or representatives. Unless you spell out "MP" before abbreviating, on every single article, it's slang. I shouldn't have to search the internet to figure out what an "MP" is. The world is not Britain. - Boneyard90 (talk) 15:40, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's still not slang though, because it's not informal. Number 57 22:16, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Perhaps not. Inaccurate, incorrect, and Anglocentric, but not informal. - Boneyard90 (talk) 22:51, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That Castle article has got to change[edit]

The Eurocentricism is explicit and apalling. I just read through some of the past discussions and your nomination for review, and I would've just now requested another review if I had the time. At least the lede statement that castles are a "Europe only" phenomenon has to change. There are all of those ridiculous lists like List of castles in the United States where half of the "castles" aren't castles by any definition of the word, yet Asian castles are completely excluded from the main article. I think the current article needs to be moved to European castle. Since you're most familiar with the dispute, I'd like your help. I saw that your review was shot down in part because it was seen as an extension of a content dispute, but I'm an uninvolved party. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 07:30, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and as you can see it went through some major discussion back in .... 2009? 2010? There was at least one discussion afterward, in which I was moderately involved, an that resulted in the ground-breaking lines in the paragraph Castle#Terminology on "analogous structures" in other arts of the world. The main contributor to the article (who seems to really trample over the WP:OWNERSHIP policy, though no-one seems to mind), refused even to allow a photo of a Japanese castle (I think we wanted to include Matsumoto castle or Himeji castle), and he refuses to even use the word castle in reference to Japanese castles, and uses the Japanese word shiro at all times. He doesn't want to validate their status as castle. He used to call them "Japanese fortifications". In my effort to make it a more inclusive article, I cited a number of architecture books, listed the criteria for castle, and demonstrated how any number of Japanese castles fit the criteria, using specific castles as evidence. He and his supporters held firm, citing an academic journal that specialized in all things castle, which defined castles as being European, or built by Europeans. Not surprisingly, the journal was published somewhere in Europe. An ironclad definition that does not change with time. European was simply part of the definition and criteria of what composes a castle, even though there are obvious exceptions (such as the Disney "castle", which is not fortified, nor the residence of nobility, nor the military center of a region, etc.). I couldn't even add Category:Japanese castles to the bottom of the page, nor Japanese castles to the See also list - though this was later changed and allowed. He was a prolific contributor who had an retinue of influential supporters. The FA review contributors seems to be people with only with the European interest or tangential interest to the subject. When I brought it up for review (my first time), some editors said simply, "I don't see the problem" or "it's was good enough before, why change it". Lack of familiarity with Japanese castles meant apathy toward the topic. Editors from WP:Japan were too few and not well organized, contributing opinions with little else. I wouldn't mind taking another go at it, especially if I had more support, but to tell the truth, I am pretty busy for the foreseeable future. I am a PhD student in anthropology, and just don't have the time to spearhead an effort like this. I'd be willing to bet that without new evidence of some kind, or clear evidence of a decline in the article's quality, a review would be shot down pretty fast. The main contributor keep a sharp eye on all new edits, and frequently reverts even the most minor change. I'm willing to lend my voice to the cause, but can't lead a nomination for FA-review right now. - Boneyard90 (talk) 16:22, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you and understand your situation. Obviously a castle is a castle, regardless of where it is or who built it or even its aesthetics. Luckily, though, WPJ is much larger and better organized now, so it's possible to reach out to those who are most familiar with Japanese castles (I myself am more familiar with Gusuku). We could also possibly reach out to WikiProject India to see if anyone knowledgeable of Indian forts could pitch in. I think together we could draft two things in a sandbox:
  1. A Request For Review full of arguments backed by evidence
  2. A new article that will be named Castle that includes castles outside of Europe, and the current article at that name be moved to European castle
Basically, we work on this little by little over a long period of time and then drop it all loose at once. I will be taking an extended wikibreak in two weeks, but before then I can get something started and afterwards I can spearhead this. In the meantime, I'll ask around and see who else would be willing to pitch in to this project. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 23:48, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds great! - Boneyard90 (talk) 22:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment of Akihiro Ota[edit]

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Assessment for b6 in Japanese satellite articles.[edit]

Dear ping(Boneyard90), I've seen that you have consistently assessed that my articles lack accessibility. The case are: BSAT-1a, BSAT-1b, BSAT-2a, BSAT-2b, BSAT-2c and BSAT-3b. May be I've been working in spaceflight too long, but I feel like I've toned them down as much as possible given the technical nature of the underlying subject. If you could help me in understanding how should I make them more accessible and if that is the only thing preventing those article from achieving a B-class status, I would greatly appreciate it. Writing these articles is very repetitious and doing it better one time helps a lot in improving most of them.

Regards, Baldusi (talk) 23:17, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thanks for writing. First, I should say that since the first of the satellite articles, I have noticed a consistent improvement in accessibility. I try to assess fairly and consistently. But I took a look at BSAT-1a, and noticed these two sentences:
  • "It would serve along BSAT-1b on the 110°E longitude position for the B-SAT.[10]"
    • I suppose I could look up 110°E longitude, but it might help to put it in context. Does this mean it's consistently above one country on that line longitude? Does it wander over the length of that line, and if so, provide a few countries as examples. Or, link "110°E longitude" to the article 110th meridian east.
  • "Its payload was composed of a four active plus four spares Ku band transponders fed by a TWTA with an output power of 106 Watts."
    • .....which means? I mean, is that good or bad, an advance for that time, is it comparable to something, what does it all mean? Context helps the lay-reader.

Hope this all helps. - Boneyard90 (talk) 13:17, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Murder of Kylie Maybury[edit]

Have you gone through Murder of Kylie Maybury ? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 23:29, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't ring a bell. But I looked through it, and everything appears in order, until the article can be updated with developments. - Boneyard90 (talk) 23:40, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Now five years! ----Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! - Boneyard90 (talk) 16:07, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
... and six! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017[edit]

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March Madness 2017[edit]

G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:

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The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXII, April 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIV, June 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017[edit]

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Biographies of filmmakers[edit]

Hello! Just a reminder that {{WikiProject Film}} does not cover biography articles, such as actors and filmmakers. This applies to all of the film task forces as well, which means that the Japanese cinema task force does not include articles about Japanese actors, directors and filmmakers, and consequently should not have the |cinema=yes parameter on the {{WikiProject Japan}} banner. Thanks! Fortdj33 (talk) 09:41, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017[edit]

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2017 Military history WikiProject Coordinator election[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVIII, October 2017[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIX, November 2017[edit]

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Women in Red World Contest[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXL, December 2017[edit]

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User group for Military Historians[edit]

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"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

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New Page Reviewing[edit]

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Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 22:06, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for Creation Reviewing[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLI, January 2018[edit]

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Biography living= parameter[edit]

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Women's History vs Women projects[edit]

Hi there, just a note with regards to the talk page of Jana Jurečková - as she was born before 1950 her article belongs with WP:Women's History, not with WP:Women. I have reverted your edits back to the correct WP. Thanks. MurielMary (talk) 08:10, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's not necessarily the case. See the project's Criteria for inclusion, where it states: "The biography of a woman born between 1900 and 1950 is within the scope of this project if reliable sources discuss her life or career in the context of women's history or as contributing to significant societal or cultural change." I'll look at the article again, a little more closely, but if I remove it from the project and you don't agree, request that one of the other project members assess it. - Boneyard90 (talk) 02:20, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018[edit]

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April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIV, May 2018[edit]

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Esszett[edit]

Re this, please note that esszet is rendered ss, and not s. --dab (𒁳) 11:04, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Thank you for the information! - Boneyard90 (talk) 14:28, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CXLVI, June 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLVIII, August 2018[edit]

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIX, September 2018[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018[edit]

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Tainted Halloween candy[edit]

Hello User:Boneyard90! I hope this message finds you doing well. I was visiting the Poisoned candy myths article and when I saw the talk page, I noticed that you, in the past, had moved the article to a more appropriate title, Tainted Halloween candy. I was surprised to see that the article contained no mention of any of the real cases that had occurred in the past few years so I decided to balance the article by adding this. What are your thoughts on the matter and do you think it's worth revisiting moving the article back to Tainted Halloween candy? I thank you for taking the time to read this and look forward to hearing from you. With regards, AnupamTalk 19:32, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, it looks like you've made some very meaningful contributions, with adequate and appropriate references! At some point, it may have to be edited to bring it more in line with encyclopedic language, but at the moment it's fine. Let's see if it holds and see if other editors want to comment on the changes. If the changes stick, then after a week or two when we can say that the new content is "stable", let's talk about moving the article to a new title. - Boneyard90 (talk) 08:00, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018[edit]

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Nominations now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018[edit]

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  1. ^ Bungei Shunjū Senshi Kenkyūkai (1981). The Day man lost: Hiroshima. Kodansha International. p. 215. ISBN 0870114719.
  2. ^ Bradley, F.J. (1999). No Strategic Targets Left. Turner Publishing. p. 103. ISBN 0912799072.
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