User talk:BranStark/Archive 5
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Hello!
Welcome back. I'm pleased to see that you've returned. :) Acalamari 11:58, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the warm welcome, it's so good to see a familiar face! — BranStark (talk) 13:09, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Amends rejected
Hi there, can you tell me why the edits I made to James Martin (chef) page have been rejected? Sorry new to Wikipedia and don't understand why! Thanks --CGirlPeaGirl (talk) 18:51, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
- New? No relation to User:PeaGirl, who was also concerned primarily with making PR edits to the same page? Pinkbeast (talk) 08:50, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Have used it before in a very limited fashion without setting up an account but really don't understand how it works what is permitted/not permitted, just trying to update the page and asking for support. So, yes, I would say I am new to this. Not interested in PR just factual edits. Any advice would be gratefully received--90.214.72.45 (talk) 10:17, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- CGirlPeaGirl you included raw links into the main body of article, have a read of Manual of Style (Links) — BranStark (talk) 13:25, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
David Moyes edit
You say that describing David Moyes career as being that of a 'journeyman' is not constructive. I would suggest you feel it is in someway derogatory to him.
However, describing him as a journeyman is in my opinion an entirely fair and accurate statement considering he played for 7 clubs all of them outside the top flight (bar Celtic), and was never capped at any level for his country.
In addition there is a paragraph discussing in some detail his apparent Protestant values and how he seemed to wish to impose this on his fellow players at one of his clubs. I would view this as a far more dangerous and inciteful statement given the sectarian nature of parts of Scottish society.
- Have a read of WP:BLP. Wikipedia takes biographies of living people very seriously and the edits you made (I'm assuming it was you editing under the IP 131.227.189.208 were inappropriate — BranStark (talk) 16:10, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
New section
BranStark Listen to me. UbiArt was from ubisoft montpellier and its use to make animation in one of ubisoft's games. I can fix it and dont worry about it. I will find the information about ubiart.
- Ok go ahead, you've already improved it quite a bit since the tag was placed — BranStark (talk) 15:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
New section
BranStark,
I am Tim Clark, the sports information director at Texas Lutheran University. I removed that large chunk of information from the athletics section of Texas Lutheran University because it contained errors of fact (wrong coaches listed, wrong number of sports listed, error regarding start date of football, etc.) and because it was poorly written. I pasted the information we have on our athletics program that comes directly from our website. http://tlubulldogs.com/sports/2013/11/7/abouttluathletics.aspx?&tab=4. It gives our history and the correct number of sports, among other things.
Please let me know what I need to do to make these changes stay on Wikipedia.
Thank you for your time.
Tim ClarkLuckybulldog1891 (talk) 16:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC) TLU Sports Information Texas Lutheran University
- People generally revert edits where large sections of text are removed, it's preferred that such edits are discussed on the article's talk page before going ahead especially seeing how you're connected to the institution and may have conflict of interest — BranStark (talk) 16:15, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
So, regarding my edits to the Texas Lutheran University athletics page, what is my next step, as I am new to this. I understand the potential for conflict of interest, but some of the page "facts" are simply wrong and need to be fixed. Luckybulldog1891 (talk) 16:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Because the edits are fairly substantial (in terms of content removed) I suggest starting a topic in the article's talk page. If no one replies or opposes the changes, then go ahead — BranStark (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
TLU Athletics
Thank you. I have gone into the Texas Lutheran University talk page and proposed my edits as best I can. I appreciate your help. How long should I wait to try again? Weeks of checking the talk page?
Tim Luckybulldog1891 (talk) 16:36, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- The talk page looks relatively active this month so hopefully you'll receive some feedback. If not, just wait a few days — BranStark (talk) 16:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Unnecessary addition of external image
Hello! Please do consider the matter of unnecessary addition of external image in Sophie Hunter's page. She's not a model whose appearance is pivotal to her profile nor is the external image notable in her body work. Other pages don't have photos in their infoboxes either and they still exist and work as a page even without an external image. The image the user keeps on inserting is also not solely of Hunter's appearance as she is with somebody else in the photo. This is not at all a very good representation or even rational to have an external image in the page.Eurydice Leus (talk) 13:43, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Lady Lotus was the one who reverted the edit, bring it up with her — BranStark (talk) 13:47, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Why so serious
For a guy who has "why so serious" on his cover, you don't seem to have a sense of humor.
Same question as to the Boneauea: Edits of quality and non promotional material for different categories I happen to be knowledgeable on are being flagged. It aggravates my OCD to see the articles being short of descriptive material, examples, visual aid and/or support. If you look at my contributions, you will see that all of this has been taken into consideration.
Is it your guys way to entertain when you have too much free time on your hands? Let's see... Today we will keep a junk article that way just because we can and have all contributions to them dismissed. Time to start banning editors who think too highly of themselves. All it takes to see what you are is the way you talk to the guys who ask you questions below.
As for the vandalism..."whatever" sounds quite appropriate. Why so serious?
DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 14:52, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- This is vandalism, hence why I reverted it. It has nothing to do with my lack of sense of humour — BranStark (talk) 14:55, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- BranStark (talk) Fine, even though I figured Ms. Bonadea would see the message and just disaprove of it since she has no "talk" option and you will agree that it was a polite question aiming to see what I did wrong rather than cause harm to any of her page. Maybe you can be an arbiter on my flagged edits? However I feel that you are now biased against me and this would not lead to me persuading you. All I can say is that I do not feel that it is just to slap my edits so hard. I really did have contribution in mind with all of the factors that I mentioned above and I do not look to be in poor standing with Wiki or any individual really. Just did not know how to ask a question in a different manner to a person who did not leave room to be asked. Thoughts? Or still serious? DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 15:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Bonadea has a talk page here. As for your edits, this one is considered spam, as is this, and this, this too, and this and so is this. Try giving WP:SPAM a read before you continue editing and risk getting blocked — BranStark (talk) 15:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- BranStark (talk) Fine, even though I figured Ms. Bonadea would see the message and just disaprove of it since she has no "talk" option and you will agree that it was a polite question aiming to see what I did wrong rather than cause harm to any of her page. Maybe you can be an arbiter on my flagged edits? However I feel that you are now biased against me and this would not lead to me persuading you. All I can say is that I do not feel that it is just to slap my edits so hard. I really did have contribution in mind with all of the factors that I mentioned above and I do not look to be in poor standing with Wiki or any individual really. Just did not know how to ask a question in a different manner to a person who did not leave room to be asked. Thoughts? Or still serious? DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 15:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- BranStark (talk) It seems that you have in fact forgotten WP:SPAM after sitting here for too long. "Citation spamming is a subtle form of spam and should not be confused with legitimate good-faith additions intended to verify article content and help build the encyclopedia." This is what it was and judging by the way you keep giving out warnings, it is high time for a new generation of open-minded editors to come and replace you. Might as well use the last warning and ban me if you mean to do so because I will fight you on this and I do stand firm in believing that my actions have not been spam-like and were solely made to increase the knowledge of those, reading wiki-articles in question and broaden their understanding of the subjects by either having a visual aid (music/games) or additional quality source for further reading (Microgaming). Some of the articles themselves ask for improvement and since you have bought the monopoly for "truth" around here, I will look for ways to challenge your biased claims. (Thank you for Bonadea's talk page) DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 15:48, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Ok let's explore the first link, how does that external link offer any kind of source to the text you attach it to. The second link has absolutely nothing to do with the text that precedes it. Shall I continue? You've just randomly placed links into article and claimed they sources — BranStark (talk) 15:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- BranStark (talk) Of course! I am well aware that a link of reference can't appear without someone writing something. Look at the infographic please: "The first fully functional gambling software was developed by Microgaming, they basically invented online casino as well as online slot machine" It is an interesting and valuable thing! Would you not want to learn who was the trailblazer in the field of your interest? Especially if an article about them only had one paragraph stating that this company bought that company and other company went liquid. Can't you see that I am sincere about this? One moment, let me look at the second link. DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 16:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Ok let's explore the first link, how does that external link offer any kind of source to the text you attach it to. The second link has absolutely nothing to do with the text that precedes it. Shall I continue? You've just randomly placed links into article and claimed they sources — BranStark (talk) 15:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- BranStark (talk) It seems that you have in fact forgotten WP:SPAM after sitting here for too long. "Citation spamming is a subtle form of spam and should not be confused with legitimate good-faith additions intended to verify article content and help build the encyclopedia." This is what it was and judging by the way you keep giving out warnings, it is high time for a new generation of open-minded editors to come and replace you. Might as well use the last warning and ban me if you mean to do so because I will fight you on this and I do stand firm in believing that my actions have not been spam-like and were solely made to increase the knowledge of those, reading wiki-articles in question and broaden their understanding of the subjects by either having a visual aid (music/games) or additional quality source for further reading (Microgaming). Some of the articles themselves ask for improvement and since you have bought the monopoly for "truth" around here, I will look for ways to challenge your biased claims. (Thank you for Bonadea's talk page) DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 15:48, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
BranStark (talk) Please look at the link! These are boys, white kids from England who are singing Son House! It is fantastic and so valuable to the genre that old Delta Blues, heard in the 30's smoke joints without any crossover, would be remade, revitalized and cherished till now across the Atlantic. The relevancy of it is to show the example of non-African population following and loving the Blues. If Stark had a Wiki page, I'd direct it to them but they are still young. Would you create one for them? Can't you see now that all of my motives are pure? Please go on, let's go through them one by one. DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 16:10, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- The second link again, this was the original text "Like [[jazz]], [[rock and roll]], [[heavy metal music]], [[hip hop music]], [[reggae]], [[country music]], and [[pop music]], blues has been accused of being the "[[Satan|devil]]'s music" and of inciting violence and other poor behavior.<ref>SFGate</ref> In the early 20th century, the blues was considered disreputable, especially as white audiences began listening to the blues during the 1920s.<ref name="trkeja"/> In the early twentieth century, [[W. C. Handy|W.C. Handy]] was the first to popularize blues-influenced music among non-black Americans" and you randomly added this at the end <ref>http://bluesguitar.expert/videos/rising-stars/stark</ref>. There's nothing in the link about W. C. Handy or the fact he was "the first to popularize blues-influenced music among non-black Americans". It's just a random link! — BranStark (talk) 16:20, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
BranStark (talk) I am saddened but must agree with you. I've read it wrong and thought it was stating that the genre crossed the ethnicity. I apologize for that and yes, the link is a mistake. If I write additional material how the genre continues to influence the non-black Americans, would it make up for the lack of attention? Actually, no. It would be best to remove it since it is ultimately out of place and writing content around the link would ruin the flow of the article itself. DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 16:26, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- It's a free encyclopedia, you're welcome to enhance it in any way you like. If you need help, try the help page or if you want one-on-one help, add the template {{helpme}} in your talk page and someone will be along to assist you. — BranStark (talk) 16:33, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
BranStark (talk) I appreciate it. Hope you can see now that my intentions were not to spam, advertise or promote any of it. I will add to the article now and ping you to see if it will fall under acceptable by you type of contribution. DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2014 (UTC) BranStark (talk)Please take a look at the same "Blues" page "In Popular Culture" (Sorry, don't know how to link the parts like you did). Would this constitute as a proper contribution and if so, may I continue bettering this place if I fix the other ones? DavidAdamsBOAZ (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah your edit is a lot better — BranStark (talk) 13:17, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Bran Stark
Your new Bran Stark article is a copy of the page at Westerns.org so obviously it needs a lot of cleanup to meet Wikipedia's format standards and criteria for inclusion. That's fine, but in the future you really should be doing extensive article creations or overhauls in your sandbox or another subpage, not in mainspace. It will annoy editors who have the article/redirect on their Watchlists, and will also attract the critical attention from editors like myself who see what a mess it is and may assume it is not being actively improved. Better to work out of the public eye! Thanks and good luck, in my research for other articles I didn't see much in the way of citations related to Bran.— TAnthonyTalk 15:26, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- TAnthony Hey, I didn't add the text, some IP did. The article is in my Watchlist so when I saw someone had inputted the text, I thought I'd try and improve it. I'll transfer the article into my Sandbox and restore the redirect as it will need a lot of work. :) — BranStark (talk) 15:29, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oh ha OK, I missed that step though I did see that the IP had added the link from the character list article. Sorry.— TAnthonyTalk 15:34, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- TAnthony It's been 6 years since I was active on Wikipedia (took a long break) so I'm very rusty when it comes to improving articles, I've moved the text to User:BranStark/Sandbox/doc and am still trying to improve it. Since you're an active ASOIF editor, you're more than welcome to assist — BranStark (talk) 16:39, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- You may have been inactive for a long time but you did a great job trimming that down! But since you uploaded an image and you can't have non-free images in userspace, why don't you move what you have to Bran Stark and I'll take a stab at it later. Also, I do have some good citations that will help establish the character's notability, but anything else you can find would be great. FYI, I think Westeros.org is still not considered a reliable source (which may change now that the webmaster have cowritten a book with Martin), but it should be OK to cite plot details which don't really need secondary sources anyway. Good job and thanks again! — TAnthonyTalk 19:49, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Done -
I wasn't sure whether to move the text to Bran Stark or Brandon Stark, if you disagree with what I've done, please feel free to revert it.— BranStark (talk) 13:33, 17 November 2014 (UTC)- Ignore that, since he's globally credited as 'Bran Stark' I reverted the change I made to the redirect — BranStark (talk) 14:39, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- TAnthony It's been 6 years since I was active on Wikipedia (took a long break) so I'm very rusty when it comes to improving articles, I've moved the text to User:BranStark/Sandbox/doc and am still trying to improve it. Since you're an active ASOIF editor, you're more than welcome to assist — BranStark (talk) 16:39, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oh ha OK, I missed that step though I did see that the IP had added the link from the character list article. Sorry.— TAnthonyTalk 15:34, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
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Done - yup wasn't intentional, the articles in question are still sort of under construction. Cheers for the heads-up, all the links have been fixed — BranStark (talk) 13:10, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Active Robots
Hi, i was editing a broken link and got a message saying someone else had edited it which turned out to be a re-direct link to a blank page, a user swpb or something similar who sent a message to me previously saying he was going to delete the page due to lack or references. being new to Wikipedia editing i made a few mistakes with the links and so have been checking/ amending the ones which didn't but i think he might be trying to delete the page. is there any way to stop this? Cheers
- I see you've added a full article now. Apologies for the message on your talk page, I'll remove that. In future if you do blank pages, it's usually recommended you explain this in the edit summary so editors know your intentions. — BranStark (talk) 13:58, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yea i got confused when i went to save a message came up saying there were conflictions so i thought i'd delete the conflicting information which woul then leave me inforamtion to be saved, apparently i deleted everything. hey ho, you live an learn, that's what a 'back' button is for i suppose!
- No worries pal, and you're right - you do live and learn :) — BranStark (talk) 14:34, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yea i got confused when i went to save a message came up saying there were conflictions so i thought i'd delete the conflicting information which woul then leave me inforamtion to be saved, apparently i deleted everything. hey ho, you live an learn, that's what a 'back' button is for i suppose!
Taylor Swift
New here. May I know why were my edits on the Taylor Swift page reverted when they are accurate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garett lzs (talk • contribs)
- @Garett lzs Hi, Wikipedia takes biographies of living people very seriously. You can't just add a bunch of random facts relating to Taylor Swift without providing reliable sources — BranStark (talk) 16:08, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
@BranStark How do I provide reliable resources? I tried including several links in this manner, http.org.y based on the related websites but it didn't work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garett lzs (talk • contribs)
- (talk page stalker) @Garett lzs: please read this to know how you can add sources. You should also read this to know which sources are reliable and which are not. Cheers, Jim Carter 09:37, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello
Hello friend, have we met before? I found your talk page on my watchlist but I can't recall when we met. Did you changed your username? Or something? Thanks, Have a nice day! Jim Carter 18:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, yeah I returned from a 5-6 year wikibreak. Previously named Possum — BranStark (talk) 13:25, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- 5-6 years? Pretty long time. Good to see that you are using Huggle after returing from a break. You might have noticed, things have changed now. But I'm happy to see you around. Happy editing! Jim Carter 06:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- You can say that again, everything's changed! Even some of the policies I used to know by heart have been tweaked! Haha — BranStark (talk) 13:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- 5-6 years? Pretty long time. Good to see that you are using Huggle after returing from a break. You might have noticed, things have changed now. But I'm happy to see you around. Happy editing! Jim Carter 06:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Accepting revisions
Respectfully, are you looking at the revisions you are accepting? This one is changing something without discussion that has been debated endlessly on the talk page. This one from yesterday is blatant vandalism. Helpsome (talk) 14:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Helpsome No excuses. Looking at both those diffs, I honestly have no idea why I approved them. I'll definitely pay more attention in future and thanks for AGF and not yelling at me :) — BranStark (talk) 14:11, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Sometimes people are working too quickly (I know I have done it) so I just wondered if that was the case. Hope you are having a good day. :) Helpsome (talk) 14:13, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Hey!
What the?!?. It happens. Cheers! -- Rrburke (talk) 16:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- I know! It happened yesterday too. Thankfully most Hugglers are nice and don't go crazy on my talk page :) — BranStark (talk) 16:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
ben wedeman
What are you talking about? I listed 3 reliable sources.
- What are you talking about, looking at the page history, I haven't reverted any edits from your IP — BranStark (talk) 13:37, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Re: User talk:Cdebary's edits on Williams College Museum of Art
It would be productive for Wikipedia if editors would read edit summaries instead of blindly issuing generic templates. ⁓ Hello71 14:04, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- WP:OWN — BranStark (talk) 14:06, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- Exactly, so don't use Template:Uw-vand4. ⁓ Hello71 14:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, after reviewing it. I agree it was a tad OTT. Apologies, I just returned from a 5 year wikibreak and I'm a bit rusty. Generally, I do use the correct template but I guess occasionally I get it wrong — BranStark (talk) 14:50, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- Exactly, so don't use Template:Uw-vand4. ⁓ Hello71 14:47, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Bruce
I would like to add information about myself, a very famous and prominent Bruce in my local community. I will make sure it is constructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by an unspecified IP address
- If you want to edit Wikipedia constructively, here's a very plain and simple guide I suggest you read — BranStark (talk) 16:15, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
WIKEPEDIA
I am sorry for this but I did not make any changes on Wikipedia, this may have been a confusion or problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by an unspecified IP address
- If it wasn't you and you're keen to enhance the project, why not create an account — BranStark (talk) 16:26, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar |
Thanks for fixing the vandalism on my user page! Bped1985 (talk) 15:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC) |
- No problem! — BranStark (talk) 15:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
By Mistake Edit Of Template:Gotras of Jats
Thanks For Correcting — Preceding unsigned comment added by IP (talk • contribs)
- No worries — BranStark (talk) 13:30, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, have you noticed the first sentence? It says Andrew Potato Dalton (born October 29, 1987) is an Irish Potato ginger bread man for the Cincinnati Bengals of the National Football League (NFL). --IEditEncyclopedia (talk) 15:12, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- @IEditEncyclopedia: Is that his real name?? — BranStark (talk) 15:15, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- I am wondering if it is a vandalism. --IEditEncyclopedia (talk) 15:16, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- @IEditEncyclopedia: Good catch! I think I've reverted it back alright — BranStark (talk) 15:20, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Stephen Baldwin
Hello Stephen Baldwin here, I would like to know why my changes to my own Wikipedia page are being reversed. Being Stephen Baldwin I of course know the most about myself and I would appreciate it if you allowed me to rectify false information on my page. Love, Stephen Baldwin — Preceding unsigned comment added by StephenBaldwin420 (talk • contribs) 15:24, 5 December 2014 (UTC)