User talk:Bwmoll3/2010

Four digit strategic wings

Good work starting on these. Please use Category:Four Digit Wings of the United States Air Force rather than the category two levels higher, Mil Units and Formations of the USAF, please also merge the data from Strategic Wings where there is already material, and please move the badges where present from Strategic Air Command Group and Wing emblems gallery. I will come along after you to edit these as well, so please do not set up subheadings for 'Lineage' etc where there's only one entry. The standard for these articles seeking to reach FAC has been worked over many times at 102nd Intelligence Wing by User:Ktr101, and all these headings have been subsumed into text. We should not go by USAF formatting, but by FAC article criteria. Buckshot06 (talk) 01:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Would you also please mind linking the exact webpage the data comes from, rather than just 'AFHRA?' - makes it easier for tracing sources. Best regards and Happy New Year! Buckshot06 (talk) 01:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I just saw what you did at 340th Flying Training Group - it's really good that we get the MAJCOM and AFCON histories linked together, never mind the USAF lineage rules - this is what actually happened out on the ramp!! As you suggest, I will rearrange 3920th Strategic Wing as per the A-class review/FAC guidelines, and if you have any thoughts or queries, please don't hesitate to say. What is your thought on the Strategic Air Command Group and Wing emblems gallery? It's discouraged under the WP:Gallery rules to have whole articles which are galleries (belongs at WP:Commons). My thought was to move every badge to the correct wing article and then list the page for deletion. What do you think? Cheers from Aotearoa, Buckshot06 (talk) 02:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, the 3920th is done. Any further thoughts? Buckshot06 (talk) 02:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

SAC gallery

Category:Wikipedia image galleries says that "This category contains pages which consist largely or entirely of a collection of images and other media. Generally, such a page does not in itself constitute an encyclopedic article. A much wider range of image galleries can be found at the Wikimedia Commons image repository; pages consisting entirely of images are better suited to the scope of that project and it is probably best to create them there. .." I do not believe this page belongs in en:wiki, it's better placed at Commons. I would be quite happy to help you set it up at Commons but I would like to list the SAC gallery page for deletion. What do you think? Buckshot06 (talk) 20:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, I will do that. But probably we should first set the gallery up on commons - do you know anything about editing/creating there? Buckshot06 (talk) 20:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

We say in New Zealand sometimes, er, 'bugger!' See also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Air_Command_wing_and_group_emblems !! You know more about the emblem uploads - I'll list my one for deletion. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 20:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Tell me if you want any specific help. Once most of the image files are fixed up, I'll list the WP page for deletion. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, I've started the deletion debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strategic Air Command Group and Wing emblems gallery. As a major contributor, would you mind indicating there that you agree with deleting the page? Buckshot06 (talk) 23:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

You're doing exactly the right thing - sending them through Wikipedia:Files for deletion. I will go and read the rules to see whether I'm allowed to delete any if 7 days have passed. Buckshot06 (talk) 02:56, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Why are you uploading/changing badge files here? Surely you should just upload them to Commons then list the wikipedia version for deletion? Buckshot06 (talk) 05:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bwmoll3. I was very puzzled by this edit here on the 341st Wing. You appeared to remove sourced content. The best wing article there is, the 102nd Intelligence Wing, tells a massive amount of its story through mentions of newspaper articles. It's entirely proper to have such things there when they're sourced and fills a gap in the wing's history. Can you explain the thinking behind that edit - I'm confused. Cheers & best wishes Buckshot06 (talk) 08:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Moved to Commons/Files for deletion

Hello. It's not necessary (or really desirable) to list images which have been moved to Wikimedia Commons at Files for deletion. It you simply add Template:Ncd to the copy here - so either {{subst:ncd}} if the name is unchanged, or {{subst:ncd|File:Newfilename.png}} if it is changed - it will be deleted. Hope this helps, Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:17, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Busy Busy

Boy - you ARE a busy little beaver! I see all them base edits you've been doing!  :) Mark Sublette (talk) 00:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)Mark SubletteMark Sublette (talk) 00:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Vehicle Spotlight Nomination

I've created a new vehicle spotlight on the AF Portal based on your nomination. Thanks for the suggestion (glad to know someone actually looks at the portal)!--Ndunruh (talk) 15:40, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Air Division Emblems

I was in the midst of cleaning up the emblems with links to individual air division articles. I did not originate the gallery, just cleaning it up. Your additional links to Commons is correct, except for Tactical Air Command emblem gallery does not exist, and could not find it. I understand why you wanted to delete the gallery and added the Commons link, but Commons has way too much for the wiki-reader to wade through. Sometimes wiki-editors loose perspective of writing and modifying articles that we don't make changes with the common reader in mind. Please reconsider your edit and return your deletion; at least, fix/find the correct commons for Tactical emblems; and use the "#" construct to drill down into to Strategic Emblems and Air Defense Emblems to the corresponding Air Division emblems and make it easier for the common reader. Thank you. LanceBarber (talk) 20:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for completing the TAC emblems, that'll work. Cheeers. Lance, LanceBarber (talk) 08:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Category:Defunct World War II USAAF Fields - North America

This has been nominated and will probably need more nominations for the related categories you created. Disambiguation of titles is by using parenthesis or a comma in the name. The dash is not used for disambiguation. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Read the discussion here. Apparently there may be more issues then the one I raised. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Southampton Airport (Ontario)

I think that you might have got the wrong Southampton Airport. I think it should be the English airport, Southampton Airport. something lame from CBW 08:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah I never even thought about Southampton Island. You probably want to tag Iqaluit Airport and Frobisher Bay Air Force Base as they would be Crystal 2 on the map. something lame from CBW 09:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

"Image Galleries"

Heya... when you get a moment can you take a look at the discussion on my tp regarding Image Galleries? User_talk:Srobak#Image_galleries In it I am addressing the archival of significant emblems and images such as those which you removed in your edits to some bases. I think that if they are going to be removed from the articles per their rather loose attachment to WP:IG that the editor(s) removing them should also be prudent in moving them over to Commons so they are not lost. Their significance enough to warrant it I believe, and their usefulness as a resource would be better served if not lost over time to edit histories. Thanks Srobak (talk) 14:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Image issue

I was wondering if you could fix this image as I can't seem to view it anywhere. All I get is the checkered background. Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Question

Where did you get Custer Airport as being a USAF installation in this edit? I have found a nearby radar site in the same town, but it is nowhere near the airport. I'm going to remove it soon if you don't have any hidden information that I am missing. On the bright side, I will likely have an article on it this week. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this taking categories a bit too far?

"Category:Airfields of the United States Army Air Forces in New Hampshire"??? Are there any except what is now Manchester airport? If not, isn't a category kind of superfluous? And even if there are one or two such airfields, isn't it still excessive to categorize them? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

My suggestion is to kill the category; it serves no purpose, just clutters up the page and the network. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Category deletion requests

Hi! I used your contributions history to find and delete all of the categories to which you had added a deletion request.

I just wanted to let you know for future reference that you can request deletion of pages of which you are the sole editor by adding {{db-g7}} or {{db-self}}, which will place the pages directly into Category:Candidates for speedy deletion by user. You can also contact any active administrator and provide them with the list of pages—this may save you time if a large number of pages are involved, since you will not need to edit each page individually.

Cheers, -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 07:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Airfields of the United States Army Air Forces (Flight Strip)

Looks like you are still having problems naming categories. Parentheses are used for disambiguation. That is not needed here, that category should probably be Category:Flight strips of the United States Army Air Forces. Also a category is not an article. You basically have a stub article as the introduction so all of that text needs to go into an article. Even if the name you chose was correct, it should have been named Category:Airfields of the United States Army Air Forces (flight strip) or something similar. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

There are conventions and they vary based on the conditions. Don't disambiguate if you don't need to. Also, I'm not convinced that this category is even needed. I can see reasons to delete as well as for keeping. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:52, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Allentown, Pennsylvania

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Hawaii air bases

Thanks for your work on these. I took the liberty of adding some pics to Kualoa Airfield since they are already uploaded. The ranch site has a WWII era one but might not be copyright-free. Have you thought about doing a DYK nomination for it? We have a day or two.

Also did you know about the other abandonded runway on Maui? It is now used for a drag strip. See Puunene, Hawaii and this site. Mostly Navy I think but some Air Force perhaps. W Nowicki (talk) 19:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Alas, I realized that it is not elegible for DYK because you do not use in-line citations. Too bad, because the hook that the major highway crossed the runway was sort of interesting. You might want to consider using citations in the future, since eventually they will need them. In the meanwhile I will work on some wikilinks etc. to integrate into the rest of the history of the area. Aloha. W Nowicki (talk) 23:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Airports in Kiribati, Palau and Tuvalu

Hi Bwmoll3,

I think it is not a good idea to add all these portal templates on the articles on these airports - nowadays, they have nothing to do with the United States and its military. It is unnecessary to reflect the whole history of an airport in a number of templates below the article (also because there aren't any portal templates reflecting the current situation). Belgian man (talk) 07:52, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I would like to add the following: to me, it seems you are more and more "americanizing" these airport articles. The history is important, indeed, so it is right to mention a past American presence. But I think history does not prevail over the current situation: it is a chapter and that's it. Remember these airports are not American today. For the reader, it would be very confusing to see more American flags and logos of the American army on the articles about the biggest airports in Kiribati and Tuvalu than Kiribati or Tuvalu symbols. Greetings, Belgian man (talk) 07:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Reconnaissance Units

Adding Category:Reconnaissance Units of the United States Army Air Forces to articles that already have Category:Reconnaissance squadrons of the United States Air Force is not correct since Category:Reconnaissance Units of the United States Army Air Forces is the parent of Category:Reconnaissance squadrons of the United States Air Force so in fact all of those categories are already included in the parent. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I had categorized Category:Reconnaissance Units of the United States Army Air Forces to be a sub-category of Categories: United States Army Air Forces groups and formations. Many of these organizations were inactivated after World War II and those that were reactivated as part of the United States Air Force after September 1947, have a completely different mission. Do you have any recommendations? Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

PPL Postcard Image

File:Allentown - Flowered lamp posts.png wouldn't be in the public domain, as the building in the background (the PPL Building), was built between 1926 and 1928. Alphageekpa (talk) 11:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Expansion of 55th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron

Your expansion of the article is great and useful, but where are the inline citations? Sadads (talk) 20:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

330th Bombardment Group

Can you please move the page back to what i had it? Now, with what you have done, when you search for the 330th Bomb Group, you are redirected to the 330th Aircraft Sustainment Wing. What did you do to my page? --B29bomber (talk) 13:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your remarks. I am just asking you again to please move OUR page back to the 330th Bombardment Group and drop the 'chronological mission history'. Just rename it to what it was as of 12 July 2010. Now the searches take a person to the 330th Aircraft Sustainment Wing, when I try and look for the 330th Bomb Group. Not sure of your intentions, but you are far from assisting with your renaming of the main page.

--B29bomber (talk) 16:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Brent, I'm going to try and clean up this article according to MilHist/MOS. Part of the problem is that it is too long, IMO, and should probably be renamed and split, with the combat missions going into something like List of Combat Missions of the 330th Bombardment Group (World War II) and the narrative into something like 330th Bombardment Group (World War II). Both should get main article links from the 330th Aircraft Sustainment Wing. Let me know your thoughts, regards, GregJackP Boomer! 00:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Part of my reasoning is that the article is at 114KB, well above what is recommended per WP:SPLIT. I don't propose doing a major rewrite, just minor areas to bring it into MOS standards, improve refs, etc. GregJackP Boomer! 01:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Air Force Portal Administrator

I am looking for an editor or editors to take over administration of the US Air Force Portal. If you think you might be interested please see the Portal Administration section on the talk page to see what is involved and comment there if you’re interested or have any questions.Ndunruh (talk) 17:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

A-10A from the 355 TFW from Myrtle Beach, AFB,S.C. at King Faude Saudi Arabia

Hi Bwmoll3,

Hi, I'm trying to find the poster of the nose art from the 355 TFW A-10A's at King Faude during Desert Storm/Shield. any help would be greatly appreciated. You can contact me at jim8019@hotmail.com .

Thanks, also loved the picture of the 355tfw and the A-10A at Faude, I even found myself!, brought back good and bad memories.

Jim8019 (talk) 05:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/14th_Transportation_Battalion_(United_States)

Because I think this will likely lead to the deletion of a large number of units, could you comment at that discussion. Sadads (talk) 11:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Squadron notability

WP:WPMILHIST is currently polishing a policy in their discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Possible_addition_to_MILMOS which will make many of the squadron articles that you make non-notable in principle unless we have more than the historical agencies' lineage/history. I would suggest focusing on the larger units for right now until this gets resolved, Sadads (talk) 12:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

For example, that MOS recommendation is about to be applied to the deletion discussion at 27th Special Operations Maintenance Squadron, Sadads (talk) 12:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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32nd TRS and 38th TRS

G'day from Oz; I came across the 32nd TRS and 38th TRS articles during one of my regular typo hunts for "aircaft" [sic]. I copyedited the 3nd TRS article and was about to start on the 38th TRS article when I noticed that most of the two squadrons' histories were word-for-word identical, even to the Alabama ANG squadron number. Surely both squadrons didn't reactivate from the same ANG squadron, could you just confirm whether the history as written is for the 32nd, the 38th or both? If they did both come from the 112th, we should probably mention that in each article. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 00:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

No worries! YSSYguy (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I noticed that you recently implemented an infobox at PGM-19 Jupiter, but you have implemented the wrong one. The correct infobox for MILHIST rocket articles should be {{Infobox Weapon}} (it has parameters for missiles). Perhaps you'd like to correct this? -MBK₀₀₄ 02:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I think you also installed the incorrect infobox at PGM-17 Thor as well... -MBK₀₀₄ 03:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt action. -MBK₀₀₄ 02:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Laon-Couvron versus Laon-Chambry

Hi,

In the article on Laon-Couvron_Air_Base, you added the phrase this was known, pre-WWII, as Laon-Chambry [1]. But I think Chambry is another airfield, some 7km to the south-east (at 49.593 N, 3.630 E), which still is in use as a general aviation grass strip. Could you please check the source where you got the information from those are the same?

Thanks!

--Antheii (talk) 16:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Also did some searching, and the site of the 1er Rama (the current user of the location) agrees on this too. I'll update the article and include references.

--Antheii (talk) 15:40, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but when more carefully reading the 1er Rama site, it doesn't mention the name Chambry at all. Neither does the French article on the airbase. 1er RAMA does however mention the site was already in use from 1918 - also by the Germans. So I still have some doubts it was at one time or another named Chambry, but am not able to prove otherwise either ;-)

--Antheii (talk) 15:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Does this image have an ID/catalogue number so that it can be verified easily? A user is asking for it at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/September 1964 South Vietnamese coup attempt/archive1 YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 23:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

370th / 401st

Good Morning

I noticed the changes you made to the 370th's page and the addition of the 401st page. I am curious about your interest in them and any reference material you might have. My father Ernest T. Cragg flew with them and I have scans of the 370th's contemporary unit history reports which I obtained from the Air Force Historical Research Agency.

ed Ecragg (talk) 16:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

List of Nike missile locations

Good work on cleaning up and adding to the material there! Here's a ref to some of the recent status of the Maryland sites: [2]. Some is no doubt out-of-date also, but might be able to give some detail for the "FDS" ones. DMacks (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

87th Fighter Interceptor Squadron at Lockbourne Air Force Base

The article on the 87th states that the squadron was stationed a Lockbourne from 1960 to 1968. However the Lockbourne article does not mention the 87th. I was a technician on the F-101B's MG-13 Fire Control system and was assigned to the 87th at Lockbourne from June of '62 to August of '65. I have no experience in editing Wiki pages so I am just passing this on in hopes that it is useful to you. RYorizzo (talk) 03:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

373rd / 344th / 345th Bombardment Squadrons

I would like to question the Redesignation of the 343rd Bombardment Squadron, Medium as the 343rd Strategic Aerospace Squadron, On 11 Dec 1963, Strategic Air Command, reassigned the the 551st Strategic Missile Squadron (ICBM - Atlas) from the 818th Air Division to the 98th Bombardment Wing, Medium; In 1963 HQ, Strategic Air Command Redesignated the 98th Bombardment Wing, Medium as the 98th Strategic Aerospace Wing. This Redesignation effected The Wing Headquarters only, not the 3 assigned (343d,344th, 345th) Bombardment Squadrons, the (98th or the 380th) Air Refueling Squadrons, or the 551st Strategic Missile Squadron, 1 Feb 1963. This was mirrored to all Bombardment Wing (but not to SAC Strategic Wings) with Missile Squadrons assigned. Recheck the 343d factsheet, This Resesignation / Consolidation did not take place. Any questions please E-Mail me, My email address is below/

Terry L Horstead TSgt USAF, (Retired) Detachment 1, 98th SW (1968-1970) RAF Upper Heyford

— Preceding unsigned comment added by TLHorstead (talk • contribs) 23:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)