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Salt Spring Air

Hi Canglesea, you recently added a comment to the salt_spring_air thank you, i woudl be intrested in having the article added to or impoved by, all involved in the avation world. i am new to wiki, do i have to do anything to gain the avation portals entry. --Flymebc (talk) 03:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

My assessment on the article's Talk page will alert other editors to review and improve the article. You're also welcome to join us. Add your name to the Aviation Wikiproject membership list. There are several sub-projects: Airlines. Airports, Aircraft, etc. Look around for something to do, and dive in.

comment Hi Carl, Thank you for the info, I must admit I still can’t find my way around wiki, I have the WP aviation tag on the salt spring air talk page. When you say “…see by the history of the page that other aviation editors have started to add and improve the article.” I presume this is the history page of the salt spring air page. If this is the case, I can not see any aviation input, or am I not looking for the right thing.

I would like to be part of your WP, and will start to monitor the pages now; I still feel I have more to learn before I should start contributing on pages as yet.

Any input you could give to the salt spring air page would be useful as I am concerned it is going to be deleted. --Flymebc (talk) 04:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Look at the Salt Spring Air article. There are tabs across the top: Article, Discussion, History, Watch/Unwatch, etc. The History tab will show you who and when any changes were made to the article. For example, you will see that "Nick Graves" has recently added a picture to the article. You can also click the "Watch" tab to add any article to your "Watch list". The article is developing well; it won't be deleted. We all have more to learn. -Canglesea (talk) 14:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
i see, it has had quite a bit of input, thank you for the positive words, i will work on pulling together some moee articles to ensure notability is clearer. all the best. --Flymebc (talk) 15:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks the article has been kept, thanks for the work, you can see from keepers comments that your input made a big difference. --Flymebc (talk) 20:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Too cool! Good job on the article. -Canglesea (talk) 21:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for changing the airport codes in the article Gaggal Airport. It was a bad mistake.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I've done worse things. -Canglesea (talk) 05:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey man, thank you for welcome me to the Aviation WikiProject! I'm realy grated! ChezSant (talk) 11:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

HNoMS Honningsvåg

Thanks Carl. I appreciate such positive feedback. Also, thank you very much for improving my grammar. This is an article I've been thinking of writing for some time now so I'm very pleased that it seems to be well received. Manxruler (talk) 23:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Systems

Thanks for joining the Wikipedia:WikiProject Systems. We can certainly use all the help we can get, especially from experts in the field like you. If you have some questions please let me know. -- Mdd (talk) 10:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. In Wiki world I have been spreading my fledgling editor wings with the aviation and military history groups; I will be involved with them for another month. After that I will review the Systems articles to see where I might contribute. I am looking for a place to develop articles on modeling and simulation; Systems appears to be a good home for them. To that end, I have tagged the article Model as a Systems article. I plan to get more involved in mid summer 2008, but let me know if I can help with anything in the meantime. - Canglesea (talk) 16:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for tagging some more modelling articles, recently, which I noticed on the changes log. I recently started a Further Assessment of Systems science articles with fields, see here, whereby I defined Scientific modeling as one of the 11 fields of systems science. I will soon start reassessing that field.
I do agree with you that systems appears to be a good home for articles about modeling and simulation. However in really I think modeling and simulation is scattered in all kinds of scientific disciplines. I started writing about scientific modelling on Wikipedia, and started the article and category in november 2005. Eversince it has been very hard to create a consistent about scientific modelling and a model in the first place. The still seems to me very little general theory about modelling. I am looking forward in hearing you ideas about this. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 22:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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James H. Howard

Hi, I see you recently assessed this article as Start class with only grammar having a question mark on the B-scale checklist. I wonder if you'd take another look at the article, which has been copyedited and expanded somewhat since then? By the way, the article was on DYK yesterday. Regards, JGHowes talk - 13:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

 Done, promoted to B class. Cheers - Canglesea (talk) 19:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

HNoMS Kjell

Hi Carl. I was wondering if you could give me a hand with the grammar at HNoMS Kjell? You did such a good job on HNoMS Honningsvåg so I thought I'd ask if you could help me here too. Manxruler (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it ... - Canglesea (talk) 05:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 Done - another fine article - promoted to B Class. - Canglesea (talk) 03:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. :) Manxruler (talk) 16:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Royal Daisy Airlines

I got the project tag half right, thanks for fixing it. I knew there was another part but couldn't remember it. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 01:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Boscobel Airport/Aerodrome

Hello. In response to your question on my talk page about disambiguating Boscobel Airport/Aerodrome:

I changed Boscobel Airport from a redirect to an article about the Wisconsin airport and placed hatnotes at the top of each page (i.e. For the airport serving Ocho Rios, Jamaica, see Boscobel Aerodrome). I think that should be enough since there are only two airports and the names are not exactly the same. -- Zyxw (talk) 09:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

You adopted Scandinavian...

...which is wonderful -- I hadn't thought of adopting that particular page myself, although I sometimes dab the word when I see it on one of "my" pages. Just wanted to say that if you are ever so inclined, I would welcome any help you'd like to give on Danish, Finnish, Norwegian and Swedish. I try to clear them once a week or so, but if I fall behind, any help would be welcome. If you like, I'd be happy to help you with Scandinavian as well when it's needed. --Tkynerd (talk) 18:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan to me. Our pages share much with Hungarian as well, - Canglesea (talk) 18:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Template talk:European topic (copied from my talk page)

While DABing the Romanian page, I saw your note on this page. It seems that the intent of this page is to point to all the "peoples" of European countries. There appear to be articles for most of the "peoples" of Europe, i.e Romanians, Danish people, etc. Do you see any problem with changing the DAB page links in this template to the corresponding "peoples" articles? - Canglesea (talk) 03:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

That sounds excellent, thanks. When I looked at the template, I wasn't sure what the intent of all those links was, which was the reason for my note. By all means dab them, and they'll (finally!) stop showing up as incoming links on the dab pages I work on. Thanks, Tkynerd (talk) 04:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I looked into this template further. This is a "generator page" template. I don't think we need to change the links to disambigution pages; the end user never sees the DAB pages. - Canglesea (talk) 20:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Kurdish disambig error?

Hi there, not sure what happened here, but the attempt at fixing the disambig ended up removing the link entirely. Might want to check your contrib history for other such errors, unless this was intentional (which I currently don't see how it could be). Cheers! — Huntster (t • @ • c) 06:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I did intentionally delete the link, instead of creating a duplicate link to the same article: Kurdish people, according to Style Manual(links): Overlinking, but I agree with you, the duplicate links in this article are not excessive. Cheers - Canglesea (talk) 21:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Ack, I'll semi-apologize...didn't remember that "Kurdish people" was linked to in a lower section. I typically champion the idea of removing excessive links, but in this situation, there is such a significant space between the two instances that it is likely more beneficial to keep as is. Thanks very much for the reply and explanation! — Huntster (t • @ • c) 23:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Question on airport naming conventions

Hi. This is in response to your question on my talk page:

My understanding is that multiple topics with the same name (airports or otherwise) are disambiguated using parentheses after the name if the disambiguating term is not part of the name, for example Birmingham International Airport (UK) and Birmingham International Airport (US). I've only seen commas used for disambiguating location names, such as Birmingham and Birmingham, Alabama (a case in which the state could be considered part of the city's name). A few other examples can be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions and Wikipedia:Disambiguation. -- Zyxw (talk) 03:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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Mirpur International Airport

Hi! Just a small query on the above article. You have tagged it as a future airport. Although the article has been made to look good by User:Rajput m16, with links from everywhere he can find to put them referring to it, there is no actual substance, or verifiable sources to warrant the article. The first reference on the page supplied simply states that the former Prime Minister of Pakistan mentioned it would be built if private sector finance could be obtained in 2006, it couldn't so the project was shelved. The second reference does not even mention anything about an airport in Mirpur. The reference only talks about one travel company providing a local check-in facility and transport to Islamabad airport, 55Km away, as a convenience for people from Mirpur. The article was proposed for deletion; see:- Talk:Mirpur_International_Airport however User:Rajput m16 deleted the tag which stated the article was to be deleted, without leaving an edit summary as to why it was deleted, see:- the edit. The local government development authority MDA shows no reference at all to any airport development or planning. Consequently I feel this article should be deleted! Richard Harvey (talk) 02:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I stated my reasoning in the deletion discussion, and deleted the future airport template. - Canglesea (talk) 02:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Mirpur airport

just thought id let you know that ive been in touch with the Mirpur Development Authority, I was told the sight has already been chosed for the airport but if you require more info you would have to wait while one of the senior guys are in. Also found this new article on the airport about ten minutes ago. http://www.daily.pk/business/businessnews/55-businessnews/5435-pakistans-proposed-plan-mirpur-international-airport-to-air-link-mirpur-with-rest-of-the-world.html

Hi iI left you a message afew days ago but you still havent replied, I just want to know whats going to happen with this mirpur airport article? You mention no planning yet in evidence but I never state in the article that planning is approved. Its a proposed airport and thats exactly what ive but with bit more info whicj i obtained from MDA. Hope to hear from you soon
My apologies for the delay in responding; real life work takes priority over Wikipedia (sometimes). The question here is just when should an article about a new development, such as an airport, be added to WikiPedia. In my opinion, projects that are in the thought/discussion stage (concept development) do not belong in an encyclopedia, because there are countless ideas / discussions / needs analyses that never come to fruition. In my experience a plan for construction never has a chance of realization until funding is committed to the project, and funding is seldom committed until details of the project are fleshed out. So, I feel that an article on a new airport project should not be added until funding sources have been committed. I don't see that funding committed to this project yet, so I feel it is premature to add it now, although I appreciate the work you have done on this article to date. This weekend, I will do some research on this project to confirm my assumptions. If you can add any more details to the article about the current plans and commitments, it would be a great help. - Canglesea (talk) 15:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

comrade in arms

Today, my user page was vandalized by the same person who did it to you. Before that, I never heard of that person or you. Chergles (talk) 22:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Why us? Looks like random acts of violence. - Canglesea (talk) 01:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Award

Thanks, nice to know time spent is appreciated!

Certainly hard work getting it done, but quite a sense of achievement when it was done =) —Reedy 22:05, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

With thanks

Thank you very much indeed for your help with and commitment to the drive. May I please trouble you to comment at the post-drive workshop? Your feedback will help us to improve the next drive. Thanks in advance, --ROGER DAVIES talk 09:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done, looking forwad to the next drive. - Canglesea (talk) 19:36, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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Fifth largest air force

Do you know which is the fifth largest air force in terms of combat aircraft? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:52, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

According to the list of countries by size of armed forces, Ukraine has the 5th largest air force in terms of fighter aircraft. - Canglesea (talk) 18:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

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Updated DYK query On 30 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Craig D. Button, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Thanks very much

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can you urgently help Milhist please?

We've had a rather large bombshell dropped on us. The Wikipedia editorial team are aiming to release a version of Wikipedia on CD/DVD in time for the end of year holiday season. They've provided us with a list of 1333 Milhist articles they intend including.

The problem is that the quality of these articles varies considerably.

We've put together a review page listing all the articles, in twenty-five article worklists. I'm hoping that 15-20 trusted editors can work through the list, weedying out problem articles and identifying suitable versions for release. The work is as far away from a tagging and assessing drive as you can imagine though, for convenience and ease of use, we've closely followed the traditional Milhist drive format.

This is, at the moment, an invitation-only review. The reason is that time is short and we can't afford too many mistakes. I'm only contacting experienced editors who performed very well indeed in the last two Milhist drives. I guess that working through a worklist of twenty-five articles will take between one and three hours to do. We're aiming to get the preliminary work done by next Sunday, so it's urgent too.

I do hope you can help but – if it's not too much trouble – if you are unable to participate at the moment, would you please let me know on my talk page? Thank you for your time, --ROGER DAVIES talk 17:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I've adopted a list, Roger. Happy to help. - Canglesea (talk) 14:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Assess

Can I interest you in taking a second look at the Fokker Dr.I assessment? I've added some citations. Thanks. M Van Houten (talk) 23:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, wonderful! I have reassessed the article to B-Class and recommended the latest version for the Wikipedia 0.7 Release. Thanks for the quick work! - Canglesea (talk) 00:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I've been meaning to add those cites for a while, I just needed a reminder. Thanks for your quick and helpful response. M Van Houten (talk) 01:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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RAF Downham Markey

I'd argue that RAF Downham Market is a Start class article rather than a stub? Can you let me know why you've rated it Stub as I don't want to tread on toes! DiverScout (talk) 13:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I was tagging and assessing several new RAF articles late last night and failed to read this one thoroughly. No toes hurt here. Cheers. - Canglesea (talk) 16:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Cheers! :) DiverScout (talk) 11:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Rookie requests guidance

In a fine frenzied fit of enthusiasm, I authored a spate of articles on WWI fighter aces. Now that Trevor McInness (many benisons upon him) has taught me the knack of online citations, I am revisiting my original creations, rewriting a bit, adding citations, maybe adding a bit of additional info.

My question is, what next? Isn't there some sort of review and/or editing next? If so, who or what do I notify? Can't someone QC me? Throw me some tips? Something?

BTW, I have dropped a note on Milbone's talk page, pointing out the first few articles I have re-visited.

Georgejdorner (talk) 03:51, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

George, I replied to your request on your talk page. Leave a list of your articles here for me to review and assess. - Canglesea (talk) 17:11, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea, good chap,

Okay, I think I'm catching on, thanks to you, though I have a ways to go.

I put headers in Karl Menckhoff and William Lancelot Jordan. I would put info boxes in articles, if only I knew how. I think there may be something on my talk page about it that I didn't understand at the time it was received. (Note to self: check that.)

It's Arthur Rhys Davids that baffles me. His citations are somewhat far apart compared to most articles, but that was because I found his bio in large discrete chunks. My writing thus had little interweaving of differing sources.

Two explanations occur to me. 1) The minor changes Milbone made need to be cited; I don't know his source for these small additions, except that he believes the last name to be Rhys-Davids because the military records say so. 2) I did intersperse a couple of remarks that seemed to me to be blatantly obvious conclusions from the rest of the tale--i.e., "However, immediate duty beckoned." and the like.

Any light you could shed on this would be appreciated. I have to learn somehow, right?

In the meantime, there's Armand Pinsard, Carl Degelow, Andrew Edward McKeever, John Inglis Gilmour, and Georges Madon. And I'll work on one or two daily until I clean up my backlog. Georgejdorner (talk) 08:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

Today's editing/rewriting produced Elwyn King and Harald Auffarth for review and assessment.

Georgejdorner (talk) 09:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

And today adds Pier Ruggero Piccio to the queue.

Georgejdorner (talk) 11:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

Godwin Brumowski can be added to the assessment queue.

Georgejdorner (talk) 04:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

George, I have assessed all of the above articles. Most are B-Class or close to it. See the B-class checklist in the talk page template of each article for details. - Canglesea (talk) 15:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

Brothers Walter von Bulow-Bothkamp and Harry von Bulow-Bothkamp are now annotated with citations and await thy editorial ministrations.

Georgejdorner (talk) 10:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

I believe these are the last of my articles with citations. Henceforth, I shan't be pitching these assessments at you in clumps; it will become a process of forwarding one or two at at time as I rework them. I have a list of 17 to rework; if I rediscover a few more along the way, as I have done, figure 20 more.

Anyhow--Gustav Doerr, Gotthard Sachsenberg, and Benno Fiala von Fernbrugg.

Georgejdorner (talk) 10:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

Thank you for the chevrons. In a sense, these are a circular award, as I could not have won them without your coaching.

The encouragement I have received from you, Trevor, Scoop100, and Milborne have made writing for Wikipedia one of the most enjoyable writing experiences I have had.

Georgejdorner (talk) 07:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

Today's candidates for assessment: Charles Dawson Booker and Erwin Bohme. The latter has a false link in it to the wrong William Hubbard.

While working on Bohme, I accessed the Wikipedia article on Oswald Boelcke. It is shockingly poor for such an influential man; Boelcke's doctrine set the blueprint for fighter aviation tactics and strategy all the way up until the advent of radar and air-to-air missiles.

Georgejdorner (talk) 13:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Invitation to join MilHist

I've already had my brush with the Military History project. You may read all about it at Laotian Civil War talk page. To summarize: I can't compromise objective truth for political correctness, and my very participation in the events in Laos somehow disqualifies me from knowing about it (according to the poohbahs of p.c.). Anyhow, it left me with some pretty bitter feelings of frustration.

Let's just say I have an already full writing schedule. My offline projects include a screenplay and two books in progress. I may slack off on World War I fighter aces to put more effort into these projects. All of these projects make me happy. Military History has so far made me unhappy.

Georgejdorner (talk) 03:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Addenda to above:

I have contributed to 29th Infantry Division (United States). I also wrote Project 404/Palace dog, which should be retitled to simply Palace Dog. I am working on Raven FACs. The latter two articles are very difficult; I have to be very careful to sort out what can proven by other sources from what I know from experience. Given the nature of covert operations, this is quite a chore. Much of the available material is anecdotal.

Georgejdorner (talk) 03:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Project 404/Palace dog, there is another article titled Project 404. - Canglesea (talk) 16:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

I am aware of the other article entitled Project 404; it is one of the reasons I have requested deletion of the term Project 404 from the title of Project 404/Palace Dog. Palace Dog contained Project 404 and the Raven FACs. Recruitment for the Ravens was through the Steve Canyon Program.

Oh, Canglesea, there's a whole world of code names and confusing initials entailed in understanding covert operations in Laos.

Georgejdorner (talk) 10:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Ongoing request for assessments

Canglesea,

Lest you think I have complained about the quality of coverage of Oswald Boelcke simply to grumble...well, I expanded, updated, and added inline citations.

Georgejdorner (talk) 18:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

Could you please add Adolf Ritter von Tutschek to the assessment queue?

Georgejdorner (talk) 10:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

Please add Hermann Frommherz to the assessment queue.

You may be relieved to know that I must slack off for just a bit, as my other writing tasks need tending.

Georgejdorner (talk) 14:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

And then there is Paul Billik.

Georgejdorner (talk) 20:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

George, all of the above articles have been tagged and assessed. You have done most of the hard work, already, by referencing and citing the articles. I hope you will request a peer review for some of the B-Class articles. Each WikiProject has their own set of peer reviewers, so if you want to steer clear of the Military History folks, you can request peer reviews from WP:Biography or WP:Aviation. With their feedback, I think you can get these articles to GA or A status. They would also make good collaboration candidates. (Carl) - Canglesea (talk) 22:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea, my good fellow,

My thanks for your good offices in assessing the articles. I will also mull over the idea of further assessments and collaborators. I do not have the reference resources to take these articles any further on my own.

However, I would add Josef Mai to the assessment queue. I attempted to add the info box to this one, with no success. I ended up with a horizontal line at the upper right of the article. Perhaps I need a copy of the info box over on my talk or users page, as the one I linked to seemed to be partially overwritten.

And I have been tracking your doings through my watchlist. However, I did not note all of the above on my watchlist; I definitely did not see Oswald Boelcke.

Georgejdorner (talk) 06:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea, good sir,

Frank Linke-Crawford is ready for assessment. This is the first article where I have attempted book citations. It will be interestingly educational to see how you neaten up my sloppy citations. I hope to learn enough from this example to spare you the cleanup in the future.

Georgejdorner (talk) 06:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea, mine mentor,

Arthur Laumann is ready for assessment.

I was looking at the Did You Know nomination process. It looks to be scarily complex. At any rate, "Did you know Arthur Laumann scored 28 victories as a fighter ace without having any training to fly fighters?"

Georgejdorner (talk) 09:57, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Splitting up the World War I Aces list

I have taken the liberty of moving this discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Military#Splitting up the List of World War I flying aces to solicit ideas from a broader audience. - Canglesea (talk) 04:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Good Move

Thanks. Georgejdorner (talk) 04:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

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Southern Mauristemo Islands

Hi, just saw your note regarding this on my talk page. Sorry I didn't see it in time to pitch in, but--well done. · rodii · 05:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your message today. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 22:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

dyk problem

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DYK for USS Timbalier (AVP-54)

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DYK for Barnegat class seaplane tender

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Fort Eben-Emael

Hi there. You just changed the status of The Battle of Fort Eben-Emael from Start to B-Class, but the article passed its GA-Class review a while ago. Would you mind if I upped it to GA to reflect that on the MILHIST banner? Skinny87 (talk) 08:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

By all means, do. - Canglesea (talk) 08:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Contemporary witchcraft

Hi, do you think Witchcraft in modern world or Contemporary practice of witchcraft are better titles? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer the term "contemporary". -Canglesea (talk) 19:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Then Contemporary practice of witchcraft? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Sure, its more descriptive. - Canglesea (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Done. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation requested

Canglesea,

Extension of the List of WWI flying aces has led to a number of false linkages. The following aces need disambiguation. For your ease of reference, I have listed the number of victories achieved before the ace's name.

24: Georg Meyer

22: Hans Klein

20: Hans Bethge, Charles G. Ross, Otto Schmidt

18: John Todd

16: John Cowell, Hans Weiss

15: James Jones, Julius Schmidt, Kurt Schneider

14: Arthur Coningham, George Thomson

13: David Putnam, Otto Rosenfeld

11: Harold Day, Kurt Gruber, Thomas Rose

10: Adrian Cole, Lloyd Hamilton

9: William Henry Brown, Robert M. Gordon, Hans Mueller, Samuel Parry

8: James Grant, James MacDonald, Karl Meyer, Hans Schilling, John Henry Smith

7: Charles J. Biddle, Archibald Buchanan, Charles Hill, John Hills, George Jones, Wilhelm Kuehne, James Tennant, William Tinsley, Johannes Werner, Percy Wilson

6: Karl Arnold, Robert Chalmers, George H. D. Gossip, David S. Hall, Johannes Jensen, William Jones, Robert McLaughlin, William Miller, Laurence Minot, Rudolf Otto, Augustus Paget, David E. Smith, Eric Walker, William A. Wheeler

5: John Aldridge, Hans Auer, George Cox, Ronald Graham, George Hyde, Friedrich Lang, Jack Mason, John T. Morgan, James Robert Smith, Karl Urban, William Walker

Georgejdorner (talk) 09:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

George, thanks for pointing them out. I will start disambiguating the links today. - Canglesea (talk) 17:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 Done - Canglesea (talk) 17:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

I fail to understand your answer on my talk page.

I am not writing articles to connect to these names listed on the WWI fliers list--at least, not yet.

The names I listed above almost all falsely link to a page of a person with the same name.

Georgejdorner (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, we'll leave the writing to a future author. For now, I'll just setup the links and the DAB pages. - Canglesea (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

After checking with www.theaerodrome.com, I conclude that both the two Arthur Coninghams and George Thomsons are the same persons. I will proceed to knock the 'p' out of Thomson's name.

Georgejdorner (talk) 10:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

They are different Robert Gordons. WW I ace has different birth and death dates.

http://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/scotland/gordon3.php tells the tale.

Georgejdorner (talk) 05:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that's service! I thought you would probably take weeks to disambiguate this list.

Georgejdorner (talk) 17:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

We aim to please. - Canglesea (talk) 17:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Bepuzzlement

Canglesea, mine own guru--

I understand that unsourced facts are subject to removal from articles. I also understand that inline citations are proof of factual source. I have also been told that books and print sources are not footnoted, but simply listed under references at the article's end.

How, then, can one tell whether a fact or facts without inline citation is validated by a book or article? Is there indeed a method of footnoting these facts from print sources, to safeguard them against removal? Or does the listing of a book under References serve as prima facie evidence of the fact(s) validity?

Curious George would like to know.

Georgejdorner (talk) 08:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Please ignore the above. I have discovered the template for book citations on my own.

Georgejdorner (talk) 23:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for catching that disambig for Army Air Corps on the 'Bud' Leavitt page. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I must disagree with you on the 'Bud' Leavitt article, as assessed as 'stub class.' It's not honed sufficiently yet, but it clearly isn't a stub. This man was a major figure in Maine journalism for decades, where I doubt many folks were even aware of his military record. He served briefly in the Army Air Corps. The assessment based on his military service is, in my estimation, inadequate. He should fall within the parameters of journalism, or columnists, or conservationists, or television personalities. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 06:07, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I agree with your disagreement and have reassessed the article. It is, in fact, quite close to B class, lacking only the section headings needed to meet the structure criteria. I realize it is a work in progress. Cheers - Canglesea (talk) 14:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks. Yes, it is a work in progress, and I will continue to revisit. Thanks for reminding me about the section headings (something I seem to forget quite often). Take care and enjoy your holidays. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I reworked the piece again, and added quite a bit more text, more footnotes, and also those section headings. Thank you for the suggestion on that. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:38, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Nice. I added a Bud Leavitt redirect. - Canglesea (talk) 00:59, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help with this piece. Best to you and yours for the coming New Year. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 02:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Frank Linke-Crawford

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Assessment/help

I have completed an article entitled Fritz von Roth. There are problems with linking to that name, as Fritz is a nickname, von is an incomplete honorific, and I have no umlaut to bestow to the letter 'o'. Friedrich Roeth was indeed nicknamed "Fritz". I use the letters 'oe' to approximate the umlaut. Friedrich Roeth was knighted by award of the Military Order of Max Joseph, and thus became Friedrich Ritter von Roeth. I think the title really needs a change, as it is disrespectful to the memory of a courageous, principled, and tormented man.

Otherwise, it is ready for assessment.

And he is a prime candidate for the Did You Know game...."Did you know that Friedrich Ritter von Roeth was posthumously granted a lifetime pension by the Kingdom of Bavaria?"

Georgejdorner (talk) 01:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

The article should be good now. - Canglesea (talk) 02:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Ka-zow, that's action! An hour three minutes from request to response!

Georgejdorner (talk) 03:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea, good sir,

Might I add Fritz Otto Bernert, the one-armed ace, to the assessment queue?

Georgejdorner (talk) 18:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

It must have been quite a challenge flying a stick in a dogfight and shooting a weapon at the same time, with one arm?!?!? Regarding his injuries, did they make pilots out of steel in those days? - Canglesea (talk) 22:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

My dear Canglesea,

It does make one wonder, doesn't it?

I have watched the mechanics lift an exhausted pilot out of the cockpit after his sixth combat mission of the day, but he wasn't wounded, just exhausted.

Bernert wasn't extraordinary, either. Zeumer was dying of TB and used to return with coughed-up blood streaking the side of his plane. One of the other Jastafuhrers I covered had to be ordered to remain in the hospital. Another used to get a morphine shot to fly combat because his arm was rotting off.

It's sickening that the incredible heroic efforts expended during a war can't be used for helpful purposes, but I guess we are just animals...dammit.

Anyhow, enough digression. I just finished Hans Kirschstein. And I dealt with the DYK problem with von Roeth.

Georgejdorner (talk) 09:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Canglesea,

A Brit for a change--Thomas Percy Middleton. I think this shall probably be a start class.

Information is running short enough, I should probably learn what it takes for just a stub.

Georgejdorner (talk) 03:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Tanzanian infrastructure ministry

Hi, thanks for your attention to Tanzania Airports Authority and Tanzania Civil Aviation Authority. You might be interested in checking Ministry of Infrastructure Development, Tanzania; although its aviation-related content is a smaller percentage of the total article content than might be usual for WikiProject Aviation, it (the subject of the article) is the umbrella ministry for aviation in Tanzania, including that part of Air Tanzania that is still owned and/or managed by the government. If a new international airport is to be built in Tanzania in the future, the Ministry would be in charge of it, for example. And having just wrote it, I know that its content, including "Transport Division" and aviation-related material, could take much expansion. I believe it is Tanzania's de facto transport ministry. Thanks again. --Mr Accountable (talk) 04:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I have tagged it for WP:Aviation. - Canglesea (talk) 16:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Cheers. --Mr Accountable (talk) 16:59, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Kenya Airports Authority

Hi, one more aviation article, Kenya Airports Authority. --Mr Accountable (talk) 22:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Assessed. It would also be good to have an article on the Kenya Civil Aviation Authority for the List of civil aviation authorities. - Canglesea (talk) 23:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Not much of an article yet, but it is there now. --Mr Accountable (talk) 00:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Frank Linke-Crawford

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