User talk:Capadouca

Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

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AC Airways[edit]

Just in case you are thinking about starting an article on this charter company you may want to have a look at WP:CORP and make sure you have sufficient independent third party references, including detailed profiles and not just mere mentions, to establish notability. If you don't have those then the article will get deleted pretty fast. Also, since every edit you have made so far seems to be about this company, you should probably also have a careful read of WP:COI. - Ahunt (talk) 17:54, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. I kind of figured that you were working on an article about this company. The problem is that under WP:CORP it needs to have detailed profiles in at least a couple of independent third party refs (i.e not the company website). All I can find in a search are a couple of directory listings, like this and this, which don't cut it. A search though the TC Civil Aircraft Register shows that this company only operates one aircraft, a 1962 model C-210C, C-GCBL. The company website seems to show just that one aircraft as well. As far as I can see this is not a notable company (ie doesn't make the standard at WP:CORP), so unless you can find some better refs then the article won't last long. Almost all attempts to write Wikipedia articles about small companies are done by people who own the company, work for the company or are outside PR consultants hired by the company. As noted above in WP:COI, in all cases this is conflict of interest. If you do intend press ahead and create this article I would strongly suggest you declare any connection you have to this company on your user page (like this user did about his connection to Nav Canada) and be especially cognizant of the section in that COI policy that points out that the article may well attract long sections of criticism of the company. Many small airline articles that do make WP:CORP and get kept on Wikipedia end up as detailed lists of criticisms, accidents and lawsuits against the company and the person who started the article then often tries to get it deleted. have a look at Silver State Helicopters or Revolution Helicopter Corporation to see what sort of result can end up here. These are both articles on defunct companies that are notable because of scandals they were involved with. My internet search is not turning any criticisms of AC Airways, but if there are any published criticisms they will probably end up added to the article at some point and that may be worse for the company than no article at all. - Ahunt (talk) 11:28, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank for your note. Those sorts of mentions like the airport website, etc, won't establish notability. What you are looking for is an in-depth profile in the Vancouver Sun, Macleans or similar. Most small companies are not notable and don't have Wikipedia articles. If they do they shouldn't be started by people connected to the company. Ultimately the issue is that Wikipedia is not free advertising for your company. - Ahunt (talk) 00:44, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]