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Don't edit if you don't know what your doing
I don't know what you did but you messed up a bunch on the 1950's playboy playmate page. You can not bring up certain info on some of the playmates. It's almost like you deleted them. If you don't know what your doing don't mess with it! Moose696 (talk) 03:29, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Moose696, Indeed its almost like I have deleted them, as I have redirected them to the decade articles. See the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Playboy_Playmates_of_2019. I am also going to redirect the rest but had simply gotten distracted. Wikipedia is not a directory of Playboy models, and so I am streamlining our coverage of the topic. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Greetings. I saw the comments you made on these list pages, which were all reverted by a very inexperienced editor. I've returned the redirects, as per your rationale, but the one above was just reverted, see comment in edit summary. While I agree with your assessment of the 2019 afd discussion, the closer did not expressly say they should all be redirected. Thoughts? Onel5969 TT me 14:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, Well it appears I made a bold move, and have overestimated how well folks would accept that deleting one would apply to the others. There were four "delete all" votes, three "deletes", and a discussion about how the decades articles were superior. The AfD nearly deleted all the pages, so I felt that simply going through and redirecting them would in fact be a time saver, instead of having a massive AfD. But apparently not. I totally disagree that 1979 is somehow different than 2019. The same problems apply: the list is not notable by itself and its a big BLP problem. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 16:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- CaptainEek, I actually don't think it's that bold a move. I am of the same mind, hence my action in restoring your redirects. In addition, I feel there is no need for separate annual pages, the decade pages can be expanded, if necessary. In fact, I think folks looking for information on these models are better served keeping the information together, less jumping around. So far, that's the only redirect that I've been notified was reverted. Onel5969 TT me 16:46, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi CaptainEek. Thanks for the AfD. There is a lot of history with these lists, and I'm not sure what the proper steps are in this case. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Playboy Playmates of 2014, which is the tip of the iceberg. I've mostly ignored those lists since. Look at the edit history of the 2014 article to get a feel of what was going on.
- Other discussions: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Playboy_Playmates_of_1995, Talk:List_of_Playboy_Playmates_of_1995, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Pornography/Archive_6#Proposal_to_change_List_of_Playboy_Playmates_of..._to_simple_lists, Talk:List of Playboy Playmates of 1955. There are more. Many of these lists were created to work around AfDs of articles for individuals who were Playmates of the month.
- Given all that's gone on, more discussion may be needed to create clear consensus. --Hipal (talk) 16:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard/Archive_15#List_of_Playboy_Playmates_of_2014 --Hipal (talk) 17:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- I also vote for more discussions. Playmates of the year 2019 get little to no press coverage, but they were part of American culture more much deeply in the 1970s and 80s. Beauty pageants have also dried up substantially in the last 20 years, that doesn't make the prior 100 years of history lose notability.--Milowent • hasspoken 18:58, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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Revisiting a sock puppet investigation
Hello CaptainEek,
I saw you conducted the WikiEditorAd sockpuppet investigations in May this year. In March, I had requested to investigate WikiEditorAd too as part of the Sonofstar sockpuppet investigations, but the Checkuser did not find a connection. I looked closely at WikiEditorAd's socks, and found that their behaviors was very similar to the behaviour of the accounts I suspected to be sock puppets.
Now, I don't know how the Checkuser works exactly, but I wanted to know if it was possible to see if the the accounts I suspected of sockpuppetry in March are connected to those that were banned in May. Can that be considered? Mottezen (talk) 22:27, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Mottezen, unfortunately, the account is now too old to Checkuser, as the CU database only stores info from the last three months. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank your your response. If the CU database only stores info from the last three month, wouldn't the data for WikiEditorAd still be there for one more week? Mottezen (talk) 17:33, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Mottezen: nah, their last edit was in February CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:49, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi CaptainEek, just wondering if you can check out the additions to another page that may violate Wikipedia standards? The contributor is not neutral, particularly as he has a podcast and he's trying to make a name for himself (I can direct you to his Twitter feed with proof, if you need it) by constantly attacking the organization whose page he has modified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist_Alliance_International#Criticism
In particular, he is presenting an opinion on the board meeting held in July, based on speculations of a disgruntled affiliate member: 'At that AGM, there were again complaints about the AAI Board preventing legitimate Members from voting. For example, the Humanist Union of Greece complained[18] that despite being a fully paid-up AAI Member, they were not permitted to vote during elections for Director roles, and they were not permitted to discuss their complaint during the AGM.' I know for a fact this is a deliberate skewing of the facts, as I was present at this board meeting. This is not a neutral presentation and presents a one-sided retelling of the events as the participant would like to frame it.
You can also see his comments on the talk page. Sylvesterjay (talk) 08:12, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sylvesterjay, I partialblocked them from the page itself so they have to chat on the talk page. I encourage y'all to cleanup the criticism section, not really my place given the partialblock. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:15, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but if Aussie Article Writer is Arbcom blocked, logically all of his other accounts (Iridescent should be able to give you a full list, but it includes at least Chris.sherlock (talk · contribs)) should be blocked and tagged in the same manner? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ritchie333, Good question, I've asked the Committee and I'll get back to you. A list of all accounts would certainly be helpful :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:54, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Per their user, "I edited under User:Chris.sherlock, User:Letsbefiends, User:Ta bu shi da yu and User:Tbsdy lives in the past." —valereee (talk) 19:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, guys. BusterD (talk) 20:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- I believe there's more than that. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. Please let the committee know about any others that are unblocked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- I believe there's more than that. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, guys. BusterD (talk) 20:16, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Per their user, "I edited under User:Chris.sherlock, User:Letsbefiends, User:Ta bu shi da yu and User:Tbsdy lives in the past." —valereee (talk) 19:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ritchie333, Barkeep and Kevin got the rest of them today, which I appreciate since I was quite busy IRL–first day of law school! CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
May I have these old sandboxes of mine deleted, please?
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StrangeloveFan101/sandbox_2
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StrangeloveFan101/sandbox_3
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StrangeloveFan101/sandbox_4
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StrangeloveFan101/sandbox_5
- and this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StrangeloveFan101/sandbox_SL
Thanks in advance. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 15:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- StrangeloveFan101, I have deleted them. In the future though you needn't ask an admin, simply add the WP:G7 deletion tag to the page and an admin will come by and delete it. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:18, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 10:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
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Concern about an article talk page issue
Ahoy Captain Eek! I am sorry if this is overstepping my bounds, as I am not an admin or moderator, etc. I would like to address a concern I have about the blocking of user Fragglestomp. In response to the ArbCom sanction expiring on the Kubrick infobox thing September 1st, they said the following on the Stanley Kubrick talk page:
It's September 2021, and you know what that means: according to the top of the page, the ban on infobox discussions is officially over. Forgive me if this is the wrong place to bring it up. I would like to express my views on the matter wherever appropriate.
I do have to admit, the first part does come across as a bit cocky, but they could've been trying to introduce their statement in a humorous manner. After this, Fragglestomp came off as collected and humble, not malicious, at least to my perception. User Floquenbeam gave the following response:
No. You don't get to "express your views" here, or anywhere, they are not welcome. After looking at your first edit from March, it's clear you're a returning sock, here solely to disrupt this article. Not sure why you weren't blocked as such at the time. While any good faith editor is allowed to raise the issue again (keeping in mind that just because something is allowed doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea), you can't, because I'm blocking you. I would strongly suggest we not allow new accounts to start this up again.
This response is why I came. I just want to express some concerns about this. Flo comes across as hostile and gives an automatic block. Shouldn't good faith be assumed? It seems mean to assume malice and accuse them of being a sock. Accusing and blocking here just comes across as a case of assuming bad faith and general meanness. That's my two cents. Again, I'm sorry if it was not my place to say anything and please correct me if I'm wrong anywhere here. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 14:33, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- StrangeloveFan101, While perhaps not a sock, they do seem to be here for the sole purpose of the Stanley Kubrick infobox dispute. That speaks to being an WP:SPA and here to cause disruptions. If not sock blocked, Floq could probably have WP:NOTHERE'd them. The block reflects a reality that the Kubrick dispute has been beyond draining and doesn't need an influx of dubious accounts. It stretches credulity that a brand new editor shows up and just happens to know every detail about the Kubrick infobox saga off the bat. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 16:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Got you. Thanks for explaining, Captain.
To me, it just seems like overkill to put in a block. IMHO, if this person is a sock account (beyond a shadow of a doubt), I agree with a ban. If they're not (like they're insisting on their personal talk page), maybe a slap on the wrist and let them move on. And if they become disruptive, maybe an IB topic/discussion ban. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 16:29, 2 September 2021 (UTC)- SF101 has a point: I have been making questionable decisions lately... If I can speak freely for a minute, it's really disheartening to remove SF101's topic ban - which was imposed due to their severe disruption on the Kubrick talk page regarding infoboxes - and less than a week later see them defend a clearly disruptive editor whose sole interest is infoboxes on the Kubrick talk page. I'm embarrassed that I believed their unban request. I have a bad feeling about the future of that talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, if I could speak freely for a moment, I am sorry for misconstruing what you said. I honestly thought you were jumping the gun on blocking this person. I was wrong, and that was a mistake on my part. I will not talk about this anymore, and I am sorry for my disruption. And I can promise this: I will not try to defend disruptive users, like Fragglestomp, in discussions anymore. I admit that I am clearly not experienced enough to discern who is being disruptive and who is not. Again, I'm sorry. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 17:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also, I retract what I said on this page, besides my latest message above this one. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 17:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Floquenbeam, if I could speak freely for a moment, I am sorry for misconstruing what you said. I honestly thought you were jumping the gun on blocking this person. I was wrong, and that was a mistake on my part. I will not talk about this anymore, and I am sorry for my disruption. And I can promise this: I will not try to defend disruptive users, like Fragglestomp, in discussions anymore. I admit that I am clearly not experienced enough to discern who is being disruptive and who is not. Again, I'm sorry. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 17:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- SF101 has a point: I have been making questionable decisions lately... If I can speak freely for a minute, it's really disheartening to remove SF101's topic ban - which was imposed due to their severe disruption on the Kubrick talk page regarding infoboxes - and less than a week later see them defend a clearly disruptive editor whose sole interest is infoboxes on the Kubrick talk page. I'm embarrassed that I believed their unban request. I have a bad feeling about the future of that talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:50, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Got you. Thanks for explaining, Captain.
This might seem like a silly question
I saw the top of your talk page, and I have to know: What's your favorite sea-shanty? Personally, I'm partial to the Trailer Park Boys "Soon May The Kittyman Come" (parody of Soon May the Wellerman Come). Fair winds, Cap'n! StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 21:29, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Editor you have been dealing with; violating their topic ban
I just came across [this edit] which seems to be a violation of their Topic Ban.--VVikingTalkEdits 13:18, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Viewmont Viking Well it was five months ago and I don't believe there's been any problems since so I am of the opinion it should be let slide. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for checking. I'm good with that decision. --VVikingTalkEdits 18:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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Request on 08:06:26, 15 September 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Sachinsethi16
Hi CaptainEek,
Dear my article references are genuine From reliable Sources. All Article related references from reputed News papers and recently Published. Dear Kindly Review again. Requested you to Please Check and Approve & check other then English languages news references Because These References with significant coverage.
Thanks & Regards Sachinsethi16
sachin sethi 08:06, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Sachinsethi16 This regards Draft:Sandeep Singh Brar (politician). I see he has not been elected to any regional or national political office, which is the standard of notability for politicians. Am I missing something? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 16:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Question from Mattdimarc on Draft:Matthew DiMarcantonio (18:59, 14 September 2021)
Hello! How do I publish a draft? --Mattdimarc (talk) 18:59, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Mattdimarc, well at the moment your draft has been put up for review, which could take a little bit, so be patient. However, your draft as it is currently will not be accepted, because it does not show that you are notable. To fix that, you will need high quality reliable sources. I have just declined your draft to that effect. At the top will be the decline reasons. You should follow some of the blue links and learn more about the process. Also, you should realize that your draft is written like an advertisement. Wikipedia is not for promotion. Our articles are written neutrally, in an encyclopedic style that does not puff up the subjects. There is definitely a lot to take in here, so don't be afraid to post followup questions :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:32, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
ok. assuming the article is edited to be neutral, is there a way to make it “notable” at the moment and publishable, in your opinion? Mattdimarc (talk) 14:25, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Mattdimarc, I think your odds are not good. I'd give you probably a 10% chance at success. At the moment, my guess is the subject is just not well known enough, something we call WP:NOTYET. My personal recommendation would be to wait a few years until the company is off the ground and successful, then it should be much easier to get an article. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 16:44, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
makes sense Mattdimarc (talk) 23:57, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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Question from LOKATION REAL ESTATE (16:58, 20 September 2021)
Hey CaptainEek, Does Wikipedia have a simple template to fill in the blanks for creating a page for my company? --LOKATION REAL ESTATE (talk) 16:58, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- LOKATION REAL ESTATE Not really, no. I should also make you aware that your business is highly unlikely to qualify for a Wikipedia page. Wikipedia is NOT for promotion. I highly recommend you click and read this link. Let me know if you have follow-up questions. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).
- Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
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- Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
- The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.
Question from Missvielo on User talk:Missvielo (17:34, 5 October 2021)
Hello, I want to write a biography in English about the first black transgender woman to obtain a Ph.D. in Education in Brazil. But, as my sources are in Portuguese my self-called genius editor says they aren't reliable. What can I do? --Missvielo (talk) 17:34, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- Portuguese sources are acceptable, as long as they are reliable in their language. Your first two sources look reliable, but your third looks like a professors blog. Blogs are not reliable. So first, you'll need another source. Second, you'll need to say what source is providing the second sentence. Third, you really should make it a bit longer. There is not enough evidence that she is notable, and going into some more detail might help. Fourth, in English, the proper translation is "transgender" not "transvestite".
- Ultimately, your article probably has a low chance of success due to how our notability criteria work. However, I have put your article on a noticeboard for articles about women and you may be able to get some help from there too. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:54, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
RfA 2021 review update
Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, Primefac and Wugapodes.
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Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere. - Admin permissions and unbundling
There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas. - RfA should not be the only road to adminship
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American Civil War
I'd settle for "acquired primarily as a result of the Mexican-American War," if you'd prefer that.Maurice Magnus (talk) 22:22, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
On second thought, I don't know whether that is true; I don't know what percentage of the new territories were acquired as a result of the Mexican WarMaurice Magnus (talk) 22:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- Maurice Magnus I don't think that's better. The use of "especially" is meant to single out the land garnered from mexico. McPherson has an entire chapter in battle cry of freedom entitled "Mexico shall poison us" focusing on just that, and is why I had chosen that wording. Sure, other territory was part of the slavery question, but it was the fate of the Mexican cession and California especially that caused much political turmoil. In terms of wording, what about "acquired after the Mexican-American war"? That is correct, and makes the sentence less wordy. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:33, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- CaptainEek On your first point, I'll go along with omitting "and otherwise" and omitting "primarily." I hadn't noticed "especially," and that does limit the scope of the reference to the Mexican-American War.
On your second point, I had changed it from "after" to "as a result of" because "after" refers merely to the time sequence and not necessarily to a connection between the Mexican-American War and the acquisition of territories. I grant that most people will infer a connection, but it's better to be explicit about it. It's only three extra words.Maurice Magnus (talk) 22:41, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- Maurice Magnus Alright, that works for me. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:46, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- CaptainEek I thought it would, and so I deleted "and otherwise" but retained "as a result of." It has been a pleasure doing business with you. :)Maurice Magnus (talk) 22:52, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- OrangeMike see the above conversation on the nature of "otherwise" and "especially" :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- CaptainEek and :OrangeMike . Despite my above statement about "especially," its placement in the sentence does not make it obvious that it does not limit the territories to those acquired as a result of the Mexican-American War. I have an idea. Suppose we end the sentence with "territories" and drop the rest. It's not really relevant for purposes of this paragraph how the territories were acquired.Maurice Magnus (talk) 00:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
If you like my suggestion, then I'd change "territories" to "U.S. territories."Maurice Magnus (talk) 00:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Commentarii de Bello Gallico VII:77: "Qui se ultro morti offerant facilius reperiuntur quam qui dolorem patienter ferant." / "It's easier to find a person who will volunteer for death than one who will volunteer to endure pain patiently," which is what is required to bring a vital article like Gallic Wars to GA. Great work! Levivich 15:10, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- CaptainEek, congratulations on the GA for Gallic Wars. I was glad to see my minor edits push it over the top! :) Seriously though, well done! — WILDSTARtalk 15:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Tommyboy12345678 on Draft:Tomer Tal (02:49, 30 October 2021)
Hi, I created a Wikipedia page and it is currently a draft, how do I publish it? Thank you --Tommyboy12345678 (talk) 02:49, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Tommyboy12345678 Unfortunately, it is not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Wikipedia has very high standards for what we include, which we call our Wikipedia:Notability criteria. That means that most subjects just can't be included. There are 8 billion people, but less than 2 million biographies on Wikipedia. There are however millions of subjects that you can write about! My personal suggestion is to take the The Wikipedia Adventure to learn about how to edit. Then, work on editing some existing articles about topics you like. But I would not suggest trying to create an article from scratch unless you really know what you're doing :) Let me know if I can be of further help. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:06, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Phase 2 of the 2021 RfA review has commenced which will discuss potential solutions to address the 8 issues found in Phase 1. Proposed solutions that achieve consensus will be implemented and you may propose solutions till 07 November 2021.
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WikiCup 2021 November newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year and the finalists can relax! Our Champion this year is The Rambling Man (submissions), who amassed over 5000 points in the final round, achieving 8 featured articles and almost 500 reviews. It was a very competitive round; seven of the finalists achieved over 1000 points in the round (enough to win the 2019 contest), and three scored over 3000 (enough to win the 2020 event). Our 2021 finalists and their scores were:
The Rambling Man (submissions) with 5072 points
Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 3276 points
Amakuru (submissions) with 3197 points
Epicgenius (submissions) with 1611 points
Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1571 points
BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 1420 points
Hog Farm (submissions) with 1043 points
Bloom6132 (submissions) with 528 points
All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.
The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the featured article prize, for 8 FAs in round 5.
Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 5.
Gog the Mild (submissions) wins the featured topic prize, for 13 articles in a featured topic in round 5.
Epicgenius (submissions) wins the good article prize, for 63 GAs in round 4.
The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the good topic prize, for 86 articles in good topics in round 5.
The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the reviewer prize, for 68 FAC reviews and 213 GAN reviews, both in round 5.
Epicgenius (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 30 did you know articles in round 3 and 105 overall.
Bloom6132 (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 71 in the news articles in round 1 and 284 overall.
Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition, not forgetting User:Jarry1250, who runs the scoring bot.
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Unexpectedly poetic, but probably wrong?
Unless Lightburst has a nickname I don't know about, I think you maybe got their username wrong at ARC. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 03:21, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Firefangledfeathers Thanks for pointing that out, my bad...further evidence of the utility of Wikipedia:Editors who may be confused CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:53, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Is it okay to delete my archived talk page comments?
As you know, I was extremely disruptive in July of 2020 (I am really sorry.). While I said sorry to User:Nussun05, I still regret what I did and I am wishing to remove my disruptive comments. Is it allowed?--The Space Enthusiast (talk) 01:34, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @The Space Enthusiast Well I'm glad you've reflected on your comments and have come away productive :) Now, you shouldn't modify the archives of others. Now, if its an archive of your own talkpage, sure, go ahead, do whatever you want. But don't modify other people's archives without asking. As a practical matter, the comments are saved in the edit history anyway, so unless they should have been say RevDel'd in the first place, deleting them from an archive doesn't do all that much. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:01, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- In this case, they were article talk page comments here. @The Space Enthusiast, I've reverted you deleting them, because without your comments many other comments don't make sense any more. They're responses to something that's gone. So even if you regret them, I think that they should stay in the archive. But I'm not sure if there's any policy about that. --rchard2scout (talk) 14:00, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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DYK for Gallic Wars
On 9 November 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gallic Wars, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Julius Caesar's portrayal of his actions in the Gallic Wars have led historians to call him one of history's first "spin doctors"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gallic Wars. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Gallic Wars), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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- Phenomenal work. The thread that leads from those forgotten names and battlefields has terminated here, for all the world to read. Incredible research and prose. Thank you. No Swan So Fine (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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@CaptainEek , i am interested in biology (especially bugs and jumping spiders), like you, can you adopt me? Leomk0403 (talk) 01:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Leomk0403 I would be more than happy to! If you could answer a few questions that would be great!
- What would you like to get out of mentorship?
- What topic areas and individual articles interest you the most?
- What made you edit Wikipedia?
- CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 06:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
1. i would want to know all of the templates and its use. also have an goodunderstandment of guideelinws 2. definitely etymology and arachnology. 3. A local jumping spider (Cosmophasis lami) not having a Wikipedia article so i copied the templates from iNaturalist and created the article. Leomk (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 08:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- Anyways i would LOVE to get Cosmophasis lami and iNaturalist featured or GA. Leomk (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 08:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Question from Daimion.hurst on Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography (16:58, 22 November 2021)
How do I post to the Biographical Wiki? --Daimion.hurst (talk) 16:58, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Daimion.hurst Well what exactly do you mean? You mean you'd like to write a biography? Who do you want to write a biography about? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:05, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
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- @OutlookPupilo:, what, exactly is it you are trying to do here? All you've done so far is make seemingly random comments that serve no obvious purpose. This is an encyclopedia, not a chat forum, and I would also note it is the English-language version of Wikipedia all users are expected to be able to communicate coherently in English. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:10, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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I don't have the slightest idea what's going on here, but I've blocked this person for not even trying to contribute to the project. I know, I know, I'm mean, but they don't seem to even be trying to understand what Wikipedia is and how to contribute. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Question from Sunnyboxer2017 on User:Sunnyboxer2017 (20:17, 1 December 2021)
How to add a pic of my --Sunnyboxer2017 (talk) 20:17, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Sunnyboxer2017:, I've left a welcome message on your talk page with some helpful information in it. I would be remiss if I did not mention that Wikipedia is not social media, it is not really a place to write about yourself, user pages primarily exist to discuss what you do on Wikipedia and maybe just a little bit about yourself in the "real world". Keeping that in mind, you can upload images at Wikimedia Commons, provided you own the rights to the image and are willing to release it under a free license. You can log in there using the same name and password you use here on Wikipedia. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:20, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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Can i be verified On Instagram --Sunnyboxer2017 (talk) 08:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Ærlig Sam (07:27, 3 December 2021)
Hi Captain Eek. When I click on my name, it says this page does not exist. Can you fix it please? Thank you.
And I would like to show that I am a native speaker of norwegian, but I do not know how to make a Norwegian Babel box either.
Thank you for all your help. --Ærlig Sam (talk) 07:27, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry Captain, turns out it does work. Please help me with the second request only. Ærlig Sam (talk) 07:31, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ærlig Sam The details are at Wikipedia:Babel, but in short you can simply add
{{babel|no}}
to your userpage. The "no" is the code for Norwegian. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:41, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ærlig Sam The details are at Wikipedia:Babel, but in short you can simply add
- Thank you very much. Ærlig Sam (talk) 18:29, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Question from Wikicrdi1 (14:04, 4 December 2021)
"Welcome aboard, matey" - Thanks, and I'm glad to support the cause. Question: Why don't I see my mthly contribution in my account. My email registered with both is the same address, by the way. --Wikicrdi1 (talk) 14:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Wikicrdi1 Well because you have not yet made any edits from this account. Perhaps you made some edits while logged out? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:57, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
MKUCR AfD talk page locked
Which part of the protection policy permitted the locking of Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Mass killings under communist regimes (4th nomination)? schetm (talk) 17:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Schetm: The use of admin tools, like protection, is to prevent disruption and build an encyclopedia. Arguing on an AfD page after the AfD has closed and without a Wikipedia:Deletion review achieves nothing. Thus, I locked the page so that substantive discussion would happen in a place where it would be more easily accessed: the talk of the article itself. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- So, just to be clear, no part of WP:PP is being cited? Is there any place that this locking can be appealed? Normally, this is done on an article's talk page, but this is rendered impossible here. schetm (talk) 00:55, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Schetm: perhaps I've misread the situation, but what exactly would you talk about if I unprotected it? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 01:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- There are ongoing concerns about 114 revisions on the AfD and 148 revisions on the talk page being hidden. I have raised those with the redacting admin. Additionally, there were ongoing discussions about the notability of the AfD, its place in articles like Criticism of Wikipedia and Ideological bias on Wikipedia, and the like. These are discussions that don't belong on the MKUCR article talk page. Further, protection without cause, or even preemptively, "is contrary to the open nature of Wikipedia and is generally not allowed." Page protection should only be applied if disruption is taking place. There wasn't any (apart from IP's and SPA's), so it's a major policy stretch to apply protection here. Finally, there was significant opposition to locking the page raised on the talk page. To directly answer your question, I probably won't be getting involved at all on this talk page, but the ongoing discussions, which weren't related to the MKUCR article, should have been allowed to peter out on their own. schetm (talk) 01:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- Those various issues can be talked about at other places. If folks think it should be added to Criticism of Wikipedia, it should be discussed at that talkpage. My main concern was that folks were abusing the page to WP:NOTFORUM effect and starting to argue in circles about an already closed discussion. This is the sixth discussion about deleting this page. Editor time should not be sunk into a matter that is not changing for the time being. Though several folks objected to protection, several also supported it. I believe this will have the intended goal: stopping people arguing in circles while not preventing productive discussion elsewhere. If you still disagree, you could list it at Wp:Rfpp. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- There are ongoing concerns about 114 revisions on the AfD and 148 revisions on the talk page being hidden. I have raised those with the redacting admin. Additionally, there were ongoing discussions about the notability of the AfD, its place in articles like Criticism of Wikipedia and Ideological bias on Wikipedia, and the like. These are discussions that don't belong on the MKUCR article talk page. Further, protection without cause, or even preemptively, "is contrary to the open nature of Wikipedia and is generally not allowed." Page protection should only be applied if disruption is taking place. There wasn't any (apart from IP's and SPA's), so it's a major policy stretch to apply protection here. Finally, there was significant opposition to locking the page raised on the talk page. To directly answer your question, I probably won't be getting involved at all on this talk page, but the ongoing discussions, which weren't related to the MKUCR article, should have been allowed to peter out on their own. schetm (talk) 01:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Schetm: perhaps I've misread the situation, but what exactly would you talk about if I unprotected it? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 01:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi Eek. I assumed you'd been pinged or notified, but now it occurs to me that you might not have seen the thread about your protection at VPP (of all places!) – Joe (talk) 19:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- I had not, that is an unusual place. Thank you. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 19:33, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Curttom (20:24, 7 December 2021)
I would like to add a couple of pages, one is for a new business and one is for a professional athlete. Thank you, Curtis. --Curttom (talk) 20:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Curttom Do you have a close relationship with the business or the athlete? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 21:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Question from Curttom (21:15, 7 December 2021)
I am not closely associated with the business or the athlete, I just think they should have their stories told. I would like to be neutral and add a lot of people, places, and things to Wikipedia. --Curttom (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Curttom Coolio. I do provide one key piece of advice: starting pages from scratch is very hard. Its one of the hardest things to do on Wiki. My personal advice to new folks is usually to start by editing existing topics you like, and getting a feel for how the place works first. What sort of topics are you interested in? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 21:21, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Reply from Curttom (21:25, 7 December 2021)
I am a writer and digital savvy, I have done some edits already, and know how to work Wiki to add new pages as I have experience writing in many different formats and how to communicate effectively. I have a lot of exceptional interests, I like sports, art, digital/technology, and entertainment. --Curttom
- Curttom Well then we can turn to the subjects you'd like to write about. What are you writing about? Can you provide three reliable sources that discuss each? Links below would be helpful. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Reply from Curttom (10:55, 8 December 2021)
I would like to write about Canada, and British Columbia, I grew up here and have been almost everywhere. I would use websites from reliable sources such as https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/home or https://www.hellobc.com/ I also think the local sports organizations should receive more attention and be included in Wikipedia. I would use resources from their respective websites like I have done before on my editing. Then there is art galleries that should have their pages as well, Canadian artists should be featured, and more. I would look to sites such as: https://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/ or https://www.art-bc.com/places/category/art-galleries/ Curttom
- Curttom If you would like to write an article for scratch, start by writing a draft by using WP:AFC. Go there, follow the instructions. Once you've got a draft written, leave me a note and I'll take a look. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 20:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Question from Abid Mughal (RUJ) on User talk:Greenman (12:34, 9 December 2021)
Kindly help me My page is not published yet --Abid Mughal (RUJ) (talk) 12:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Abid Mughal (RUJ) Well for starters, the article doesn't use any Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Further, its in almost all caps, which is not an English practice. Plus, the article is very bare bones: almost no content. So you will need to find some sources and expand the article first. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:37, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Question from Desidoxu (11:15, 14 December 2021)
how do i do the doxing --Desidoxu (talk) 11:15, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hey @CaptainEek:, I remember you reaching out to help me edit a stub article I was working on. I was wondering if you could take a look at what I have got so far? This is for the United States v. Felix page. I have a draft of it on my sandbox, was not able to figure out how to link it here. If you could show me how I can share it with you, or if you can just access my sandbox without it that would be great. This is my first article, I do know a bit about double jeopardy from work, but I am new to wikipedia so any helpful tips and tricks would be great! Amicuswiki07 (talk) 05:49, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Amicuswiki07 Howdy! Glad to hear you're doing well on that. I can indeed see your sandbox (User:Amicuswiki07/sandbox). That is good work. You can go ahead and implement those changes into the article whenever you'd like. I have the article on my watchlist, so I'll see when you make changes to it. I would suggest you expand the decision section a bit, going more into the justice's reasoning. I would also suggest you make a note about the concurrence. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 05:58, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- @CaptainEek Sounds good! I have put up what I have worked on so far, I have some expertise in international law, foreign policy, and criminal law so let me know if there are other articles I can contribute to Amicuswiki07 (talk) 05:45, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Otaku Feesh (08:56, 20 December 2021)
Hello CaptainEek! So I saw article today that included titles of francizes, with links to the main page, but not all of them had links to the main page, possibly because some of them were francizes that belonged to the main francizes. Do I add links to the main pages of the titles without links, or do I leave it? The article was on batman figurines. --Otaku Feesh (talk) 08:56, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Otaku Feesh I'm not quite sure what you mean. What was the exact page? and do you mean franchises? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Mark Hutton 100 (09:17, 26 December 2021)
Howzit?Hope you're well? Just seen the Arch.Bishop Tutu obituary page and I'm concerned that the initial reputable South African source,revealing his death,via the Tutu Foundation to the SA media News 24 was removed and replaced by two American media houses.Why would a non South African and non American choose to alter the source,when the info was sourced in South Africa?Shouldn't local journalists be credited with the news scoop,rather than media giants picking up secondary or 3rd hand sources? Thank you. --Mark Hutton 100 (talk) 09:17, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Mark Hutton 100 Sorry for the late reply, its the holidays and was quite busy. I see your point, and I think it could be valid. You should raise that on the talk page of the relevant article, Talk:Desmond Tutu CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 19:58, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
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Comment at WP:ARC
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Regarding your reply to Lomrjyo at WP:ARC[1] - can you expand on where the committee's standing ATM?
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- @François Robere I don't think we have a consensus yet on the course of action to take. The new committee is still being seated and oriented. We are considering resolving by motion, but are still working on the text of a motion. Various parties have also provided some private evidence, which we are considering. The matter is also complicated by the multiple directions this case request has taken. What started as a COIN concern became a Holocaust in Poland topic in general, and then included misbehavior during the ARC as well as concerns about Ice Whiz, plus the famous Ha'aretz article. Bottom line: a lot to sort through, and tearing a case between two committees always makes thing take longer. I can't give a definite timeline, but we are working on it. We'd rather do it right than rush into accepting or declining. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 20:07, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Good to know. I've a lot of evidence of my own, but I'm not keen on posting it for two reasons: a) APL is a cesspool of bullying, tag-teaming and harassment, and I'm not anxious to get back in; and b) It's unclear if ArbCom is finally willing to tackle this head on, so it'll be a waste of time and diffs if I did. That said, some of my evidence is already on record with T&S (correspondence from Feb. 23rd to March 16th, 2021), and a lot of evidence is on record at WP:APL, ARCA, AE and ANI, if anyone is willing to connect the dots instead of treating them as "isolated incidents". François Robere (talk) 11:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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Very strange behaviour
Greetings and all the best in New Year, for a few days now there are unsourced changes in lots of wikipedia articles, some of them were already noticed by admins, it started with this ip [[2]] after few days it continued with this ip [[3]] and today it continued with this ip [[4]],All 3 have the same target articles, the last 2 ip have the same geolocation, could it be that they are the same person, could you run a quick SPI check ? Thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 17.January 2022 (UTC)
- Theonewithreason, I've left them a message. Let me know if more IPs pop up. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 21:19, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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Hi friend, you helped me out when I first started Wiki Editing and I was wondering if you could spare a bit of time and maybe pop over to the Beekeeping in Ireland page. Some other Editors have taken an interest and are trying to Copy-editing it, to try and get it up to a B-Class, but the result is somewhat difficult to assess. I am not sure where now to start with it as there are lots of little but important inaccuracies, certainly the additional Sections with Sub-Sections does help in readability, but I fear we may be losing the parameters of the well defined subjects. There are a lot of conflicting views within the community and I have tried to give both sides, but I'm not sure that is being done now (although I do personally agree with the tone of the Article, I must put my personal opinions on subjects aside and present counter arguments in a balanced and fair way, ie: if scientific research concludes ABC, but a sizable vocal and very influential minority dismissed the Science and says XYZ then I think both sides should be acknowledged, but the scientific facts made clear, etc.). I'm just thinking that maybe a fresh pair of eyes may help, if a decision could be reached on how the page is to be Copy-edited then that might be more effective?Bibby (talk) 18:22, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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