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November 2019

Do you have a question? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:05, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
I just said that the information I posted came from the latest chapters of the comic, hence it's not original research as you assumed it to be. [ https://blackclover.fandom.com/wiki/Chapter_227. This would also helps as they provided a summary of chapter 227]. I prefer posting things if they are beyond confirmed and known to the public.2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:38B9:BAD7:6628:BF85 (talk) 05:07, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:38B9:BAD7:6628:BF85 Greetings. If you read the message to the end it is because you added an unsourced content. You leaf same massage on my talk page and your talk page. I will provide the referencing link on your talk page. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:18, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
The link I posted is NOT a source, it was to show the information is public knowledge and does not need a source. But I am adding ref sources to cover the newer chapters, though it would eventually be redone once the chapters are collaborated into volumes.2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:38B9:BAD7:6628:BF85 (talk) 05:41, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:38B9:BAD7:6628:BF85 Please note information added to Wikipedia page need a source for verification. As long as there is independent, reliable sources then it would considered a good source. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I dont care

Give back our land stop this nonsense Harami224 (talk) 04:26, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

CVU help

Can you train me because I see you train users. Also I'm in PT time because I could not find anyone in PT time. (PT stands for Pacific Time) Thanks.--The4lines (talk) 00:53, 22 November 2019 (UTC)The4lines


The4lines Greetings. Thank you for interested in counter vandalism. Pls have a look the "Goals" and "Syllabus" sections below to understand the requirements needed at the end of the course in order to graduate from CVSCHOOL.

Goals

If you're new and/or inexperienced, before embarking on a Counter-Vandalism training programme, you should be able to demonstrate that you have already mastered the basic principles of editing the encyclopedia and contributed at least 200 edits to MAINSPACE. If you have previously been warned or requested to follow guidelines, you should have demonstrated that you have addressed these issues.

When you have shown through training that you have mastered the principles of Counter-Vandalism and can apply them with accuracy, and can communicate correctly and effectively with new users of all kinds you may be able to apply for permission to use restricted tools, such as, for example Rollback, and STiki that will enable you to semi-automate the process, while understanding that speed alone is not essential - the target is accuracy. When you have achieved these goals, you can display the {{User CVU0-en}} userbox on your user page.

Syllabus

Competency Fail Pass
Knowledge and Understanding of Concepts

Able to correctly define and describe:

  • Cannot describe these concepts at a comprehensible level.
  • Unable to differentiate the difference between vandalism and good faith edits
  • Does not understand the key purpose of reverting vandalism
  • Can concisely and elaborately describe each of these concepts.
  • Can describe the proper use of warning templates and how to correctly make an AIV submission.
Critical Thinking

Able to review historical reversions and identify whether such reversion were correctly categorized

Correctly assessed fewer than 85% of the examples provided by their instructor. Correctly assessed at least 85% of the examples provided by their instructor.
Communication

Able to effectively communicate with other editors regarding reversions

Communicates inconsistently with editors via talk page comments or in response to editors who question or challenge their reversions. Communicates in a polite and professional manner and avoids biting other editors and harsh comments.
Application

Effectively applies the concepts and tools of vandalism fighting in a productive and proficient manner.

  • Cannot consistently revert vandalized pages correctly.
  • Is inconsistent in use of warning on user talk pages or uses incorrect warning templates
  • Has reverted fewer than 50 instances of vandalism in the two weeks prior to graduation – or – has reverted more than 50 instances of vandalism with a high degree of incorrect reversions.
  • Demonstrates proficiency in performing reversions, either manually or with a tool (Twinkle, etc.).
  • Consistently leaves the correct messages on vandal’s talk page explaining the reversion, and is able to further explain the vandal their reasoning behind the reversion if prompted.
  • Has accurately reverted at least 50 instances of vandalism in the two weeks prior to graduation.
Please note that there are many editors who were interested in counter vandalism course and abundant the program mid way due to lack of anticipation of the amount of efforts/time needed in reading the program material, doing assigned "homework" and exams requirements . Generally, it would take an editor 1.5-2 months to finish the course. So do prepare yourself for lots of reading and homework if you intend to proceed with the program and do let me know the reason for interested in this program. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. The reason that I want to be in the CVU is because it is going to help me to learn more about vandalism and Wikipedia in general. Even if I fail, the learning experience is still going to help me. Thanks. The4lines (talk) 17:04, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
The4lines Good day. I set up assignment 1 for you. Please make sure you enable WP:Twinkle and know how to provide hist diff - see here Wikipedia:Simplest diff guide. Once you have done the assignment and would like to get it review then ping me on the sub page (at the end of the assignment). I will usually review the assignment a day after you ping me. Do raise any questions of the review if there are any, if not and you are ready to proceed to next assignment then let me know and I will post it accordingly. One thing to note - very important - Do NOT revert more than 3 times within 24 hours on the same page if the edit you reverted are NOT considered blatantly vandalism for you will be blocked. Please bear in mind. Welcome to CUVA. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:18, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Penguin Book of Modern American Verse

Hi. You say I need sources and citations for this article. Why? There is nothing in that article that cannot be verified by looking at the book (an easily verifiable reference) - or do I need to prove that the book exists? What would be very helpful please would be to point me to an article about a poetry anthology that has what you consider to be appropriate referencing. Nearly every such article I have looked at, such as The Faber Book of Twentieth Century Verse, has no references. Even The Oxford Book of English Verse, which is about the best-known anthology produced in the last 100 years, has very little in the way of references. Many thanks for your help.--SvanBueren (talk) 13:20, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

SvanBueren Pls see WP:Your First Article and WP:REFB for there would be info of what you asking for. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:26, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
SvanBueren, I have tagged those two articles that you mentioned. English Wikipedia has nearly six million articles, many of which are good or excellent, and many of which are mediocre or terrible. Ask yourself whether you are here to to write good, properly referenced encylopedia articles, or whether you are here to write mediocre unreferenced articles that do not comply with our policies and guidelines. Start by reading our core content policy regarding Verifiability. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 09:04, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

CUVA

Hello CASSIOPEIA, I saw you listed as a trainer on the CUVA page and was wondering if you'd be willing to accept me as a student. Unforutnately, my timezone is GMT and the other trainer seems to have no room available, if this means I can't be accepted then no problem however I decided to try as I'm personally quite interested in the CUVA process. Looking forward. :) MikeTheEditor104 (talk) 14:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

MikeTheEditor104 Good day and welcome back - 5 years is a long time and everyone grown up a bit with the time frame. I saw your block appeal and got the unanimously WP:ROPE and I would give you the second chance to review CUVA program (as you have took the CVUA program before). Your constructive editing here onward is a important step to earn the trust from the Wikipedians and Admins and would lead you to gain other user rights if your constructive and positive trend continues. I give you the PROPS for not shying away from your previous action and stated that in your user page and talk page. Time zone differences does not matter as I would usually reply with 24hrs unless I am in transit or travelling. Please see above message title " CVU help" by user The4lines for the program info. Do prepare yourself for lots of reading and homework if you intend to proceed with the program and do let me know the reason for interested in this program. Let me know. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome back! Yes, I don't see a point in shying away from it as ultimately being honest is the best way to go about these things. If you check my contributions, a majority of the edits are counter-vandalism based as that is my main contribution to Wikipedia, a small number are small contributions to articles which are mainly error checking and brief information. What I do is patrol the recent changes tabs using filters to find vandalized pages quicker and from there I use Twinkle to rollback any damage done. I'd be highly interested in the CUVA program in order to make sure I'm following protocol properly and as a general refresher.
I had a question, I recently rolled back vandalism from an IP Vandal which was already blocked prior for 31 hours, in this case, I found another 2 instances of vandalism after the block and gave him the "final warning" template, in this case, am I expected to file a report with WP:AIV or does the final warning constitute as a real final warning? This is the user page in question, thanks! :) MikeTheEditor104 (talk) 07:58, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
MikeTheEditor104 Usually, we could start at lvl 1 or 2 for such vandalism edit if the editors have been block before; however higher lvl could be placed if wide spread vandalism edits occur in a short span of time. I have placed another warning as the editor has made another vandalism edit and you would make an AIV if you wish. When final warning is placed and the editor makes another vandalism edit then report to AIV could be made.
Please Please bear in mind that do NOT revert more than 3 times within 24 hours on the same page if the edits you reverted are NOT considered blatantly vandalism for you will be blocked. I have set up the program for you and kindly ping me when you have finished the assignment and ready for review. Welcome to CUVA. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:15, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
@JBW, Bradv, Creffpublic, Grandpallama, Cullen328, Boing! said Zebedee, Levivich, and AddWittyNameHere: Courtesy ping to involved editors of support the unblocked of MikeTheEditor104 appeal that Mike request to enroll to WP:CVUA program and I have accepted as the trainer, giving the editor a fresh start. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:27, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

I think that participating in a formal training program is a good idea. I have offered to help answer questions as well. Accuracy is very important in anti-vandalism work. Do not be too quick to jump to conclusions. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:47, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the courtesy ping, and glad to hear that MikeTheEditor104 is giving CVUA another go. Happy to help however I can. Also, reiterating what I said to MTE104 on my talk page and echoing what Cullen said above - there are very few things on Wikipedia that are so urgent that you can't stop and ask for help before taking action. creffett (talk) 16:07, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Gaunt Golf Design - Jonathan Gaunt

In 2020, Gaunt Golf Designs' newest golf course, Twin Chapels Golf Resort, will open it's doors to players. See source here: https://twinchapels.cz/?fbclid=IwAR1N56wsjDalkDOsG-5EHd25hdRU18Q4Hp1ymg6kesKA5HRCu56Fjh5h3-o — Preceding unsigned comment added by Strom5599 (talk • contribs) 00:11, November 25, 2019 (UTC)

Strom5599 Greetings. The source is primary and it does not indicate who is the designer, thus the sources is not suitable. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:28, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thank you for reviewing my first article and doing some edits. Appreciated. Mark from Johannesburg (talk) 14:05, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Mark from Johannesburg Greetings. Thank you for the banstar. If you can find independent, reliable sources such as from the newspapers or mma media sites in South Africa to support the season 1 & 2 of the "The Fighter" program for I believe you are from South Africa which you would find the sources much easier than any other editors. Thank you for your contribution and let me if anything I can help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:20, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Helping at CVUA?

Hi CASSIOPEIA, I was wondering if there's anything I can do around CVUA. I'm not sure if I'm qualified to be a trainer (for one, I never actually went through CVUA) but counter-vandalism is where I got my start here and I think teaching/mentoring is an area where I might be able to usefully contribute. Any thoughts on what I could do to help? creffett (talk) 01:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Creffett G'day. It is good to know that you have the inspiration to become a trainer for CUVA and it is a very rewarding experience to give back and guide editors to be productive and counter vandalism in Wikipedia. I personally do enjoy the role I am in and believe you will experience the same as I am. I have a look at your edits and found you have a lot of experience in WP:UAA a per here-1 but you have only 4 WP:RPP and 70 WP:AIV as per here-2. You might want to make more RPP and AIV edits first and taking the CUVA : Hi Creffettprogram would help you to understand how CUVA program is set up and its syllables. There are 2 trainers at the moment, Girth makes about 10,000 just on AIV alone and I made estimate more than 20,000 AIV edits of 70,000 edits in total before becoming the trainer for I would experience and come across many different situations to understand how to tackle and giving useful advice to the trainee. However to say that, there is no fast and strict rules of how many AIV edits one have to make to become a trainer, but having 4 RPP and 70 AIV would be not quite enough experience in my opinion. It would be a good start if you could enroll into the CVUA program. Let me know if anything I could help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:38, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA, all right, could I sign up to take the class with you? The CVUA trainer page says two slots open right now, but of course that could be out of date. I've reviewed the goals and syllabus you listed above. My one caveat is that this might not be the best week for me to start (holiday travel), so if you'll have me, probably should wait until next week to start in earnest. creffett (talk) 00:35, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Creffett Greetings. The CVUA program page (Assignment 1) has been set up for you and work on them when you are back from your holiday. Do note not to revert more than 3 times within 24 hours on the same article if the edits are not vandalism in nature for WP:3RR will apply and you will be blocked. CVUA motto is responsibility, civility and maturity and welcome to CVUA. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-48

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  • The mobile beta mode will be disabled to have less maintenance. The developers will focus on the desktop improvements project. You can turn on advanced mobile contributions mode if you want to see the categories. You could also jump back to the top. This can instead be done with a gadget or user script. [1]
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Wikidata weekly summary #392

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
  • Cradle enables editors to create a new item by completing a form. You can create a new form on the Cradle help page. Cradle forms can be used as templates to ensure that similar new items are structured the same way. This can be especially helpful for specific WikiProjects or datathons, and is a great timesaver if you are creating many similar items by hand.
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • 570k VIAF identifiers have been added to Wikidata items in an effort of synchronisation between the two databases, thanks to Bargioni. In order to report errors in VIAF an apposite page has been created. More information here.
    • Query Service lag now affects maxlag. You may need to retry/reset error multiple times when you run QuickStatement or OpenRefine in busy hours.
    • Wikidata now documented more than six million people, more than the number of articles in English Wikipedia
    • New documentation page: Wikidata:Map data
  • Development
    • Add Wikidata query service lag to Wikidata maxlag (phab:T221774)
    • More work on tainted references and getting the feature ready to be tested
    • Fix a bug with Wikibase test builds (phab:T238575)
    • More work on improving the edit summaries (phab:T224013)
    • Bridge: Viewing existing references (phab:T233397)
    • Preserving native behavior on key+click (phab:T234060)
    • Speeding up initialization, by attaching link listeners sooner (phab:T235765) and reducing the size of the init module (phab:T235771)
    • Recording metrics for bridge opening performance (phab:T237368)

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New Pages Patrol School - becoming a student.

Hello! I would like to learn how to patrol new pages to broaden my understanding of Wikipedia and contribute more than just edits. I found you among trainers and liked your approach with assignments and all :) I would like to be your student if you still accept. Will be happy to learn! --Less Unless (talk) 12:48, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Less Unless Greetings. I saw you have done the Wikipedia Adventure and created 8 articles so far - thank you for your contribution. I have set up the program for you; however, do note that there is a lot of reading and assignments. There are a total of 3 parts with 10 assignments and a final exam. Please make sure you enable WP:Twinkle and know how to provide hist diff - see here Wikipedia:Simplest diff guide. Once you have done the assignment and would like to get it review then ping me on the sub page (at the end of the assignment). I will usually review the assignment a day after you ping me. Do raise any questions of the review if there are any, if not and you are ready to proceed to next assignment then let me know and I will post it accordingly. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:42, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA(talk) thank you! I will start very soon! --Less Unless (talk) 21:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

List of ships named Himalaya

Hello Cassiopeia. Thanks for pointing out that List of ships named Himalaya article was missing refs. I've added these now - I think that this is now consistent with WP:SHIPDAB and WP:SETNOTDAB. Davidships (talk) 14:03, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Davidships  Done and thank you.. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:01, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Screwy T.V.

There are many, many Wiki articles with fewer sources than the one I created. Why pick on this one? DetroitWheels74 (talk) 11:51, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

DetroitWheels74 Hi, good day. I came across the article as the article need multiple independent reliable sources for verification to be accepted in mainspace. Those articles has not source would be eventually to either added sources / nominated for deleted by interested editor. All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution - see WP:BURDEN. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
"Those articles has not source would be eventually to either added sources" Wait, what? Are you not a native English speaker? DetroitWheels74 (talk) 12:11, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
DetroitWheels74 I meant " sources will be interested bu editors". Thank you for letting me know.~~
I...still don't understand you. Anyway, what do I have to do get the article back on Wikipedia? DetroitWheels74 (talk) 12:58, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
DetroitWheels74 As per the message on your talk page and the message above, we need significant coverage from independent, reliable sources to support content claimed for verification where by the sources talk about the subject in depth and in length and not merely passing mentioned. Sources such as from newspaper are suitable and sources from homepage, user generated sites, interview, IMBD, press releases, marketing/selling sites and etc are considered not reliable/independent sources and they can NOT be used for demonstrate the notability requirements needed. Pls see WP:42 and click on all the blue highlighted texts for further information. After reading WP:42 and you are still not sure what to do, then pls see WP:Your First Article for further information. Let me know if anything else I could help. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:21, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
OK, at least I understood what that meant. But that doesn't answer my original question: "There are many, many Wiki articles with fewer sources than the one I created. Why pick on this one?" DetroitWheels74 (talk) 01:02, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
DetroitWheels74 I am one of the reviewers in Wikipedia and we are all volunteers. The reviewers work on their own time/pace and choose which articles to review as they see fit. There are at least 1 million articles out of almost 6 million articles are in poor quality in English Wikipedia, and we (the reviewers) and the interested editors are working 24/7 to either (1) improve the articles' content and provide inline citations (sources) or if the articles do not meet the notability guidelines, then we will nominate the article to be deleted. However, we are only a small group compare to hundred of articles submitted everyday and at the moment there are about 10,000 articles waiting to be reviewed in NPP and AfC and the backlog is about 2+ months. And pls also see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. To answer you question, other articles which have less sources than yours will be reviewed in time for we have about 650 reviewers but only about 50 active reviewers doing most of the work and even the articles with less sources than your are reviewed, they will be nominated for deletion if the articles are found not meeting the notability guidelines in regardless how long they have been existed in Wikipedia mainspace. in short, only articles truly meet the notability guidelines will be remained in Wikipedia mainspace for good. I hope I have answered your question. If not, pls let me know. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:54, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

My Declined Article Has Been Edited

I posted a new article (Draft:Kelechi_Nwogu and you declined it and pointed out that it needs review in the area of reliable and independent sources. I provided as much as is available on the net. The major factor I think should be considered is that the subject is a public figure - a member of a state legislature and there are about 3 wikipedia approved pages that contain his name.

Well, kindly go through it again to see the changes and do the needful. Best regardsDannyogolo (talk) 11:35, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Dannyogolo Greetings. Please note that Wikipedia can NOT be the source - see WP:CIRCULAR. Please find sources from newspapers instead. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:43, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving?

@CASSIOPEIA: Happy thanksgiving! If you are in the U.S. The4lines (talk)

The4lines thank you. Happy thanksgiving to you as well! I give thanks to teachers, doctors & nurses and men/women in uniform for their services. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:01, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
No problem! Same I give thanks to all the people that help us! Thanks! The4lines (talk) 17:02, 29 November 2019 (UTC)The4lines

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To review a new page

Kindly review this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhanush_Babu SHUBHAMnoisyboy 18:51, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:1269 in Ireland

This is a list....these are lists of events/people with existing Wikipedia articles. Those articles listed contain the relevant references. This is normal practice regarding lists. Sarah777 (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Sarah777 Good day. Stand alone list do need sources just like any other articles in Wikipedia - pls see WP:STAND. Since the list subjects do have pages in Wikipedia, then it is easy to find sources from those pages. Note Wikipedia can not be the source - see WP:CIRCULAR. Thank you CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:19, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I understand what you are saying. We should take the references for events from the page of the event linked and add them to the list page. That's a lot of work adding no new information - and Wikipedia is arguably not the source - you find the source in a linked article. Anyway, surely the simple "citations required tag" would be enough? No need to make the list "draft"? Sarah777 (talk) 17:30, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Despite my reply here, and responses on my talk page, you have seen fit to remove a second year-list I created. I do not accept that you have any valid authority to do so and ask you to cease doing it. It is completely unacceptable that you tie up an article for months. If you have a problem with references use the appropriate tags. I will consider any further removals to "draft" to constitute edit warring. We need to sort this out by discussion. Until we do stop moving the "Years in Ireland" lists to "Draft". Thank you Sarah777 (talk) 18:46, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I have read WP:STAND and WP:CIRCULAR - there is nothing in either that supports your approach. Sarah777 (talk) 18:54, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Sarah777 Greetings. You need to WP:Ping the person you want to talk to on your all talk pages (including yours) except their talk page so they would receive a notification so that you have sent a message to them. All pages, irregardless of stand alone list, year in XXX, normal articles do need sources to support the content claimed - pls see WP:42. If a article is submitted via New page and has no source we the reviewer could either move to draft space to give the create time to add the citation to support the content claimed or if we think it is not notable would propose for deletion or nominated for deletion. Please note "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." - pls see WP:PROVEIT. Also even if a page is reviewed and if the the article fails the notability guidelines, it will be nominated for deletion irregardless how long it has been existed in Wikipedia. The backlog for review for NPP and Draft pages is more than 2+ months and we have at any point of time have about 8-10K articles in the review poll and we have a limited of volunteers reviewer to do the work. It is not as you put it " Bureauocracy on steroids! " when you click the submit button for review whereby a "Review waiting, please be patient" tag shows up atop of the page as this is an automatic tag of the review process. I do suggest you to read more about Wikipedia pages to understand the processes and guidelines to understand how we do things here and by the way I just reviewed your 1295 in Ireland page. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:30, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #393

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Gadgets, 3 December. Agenda
  • Tool of the week
    • Alt Labels displays item labels in other languages when there is no label in your default language. You may click a label to add it as the label for your language. This tool is very helpful for labels for people, books, articles, or films that do not need their labels to be translated.
  • Development
    • Fix security issues impacting the Query Service GUI (more details)
    • Work on a a new Parser function (commaSeparatedList) (phab:T224013)
    • Implement Shortened version for edit summary (phab:T224013)
    • Add user agent to Wikidata Query UI code examples (phab:T226709)
    • Add label and description collision detectors for new terms store (phab:T232040)
    • Wikidata Bridge: showing a loading bar during initialization (phab:T232468)
    • Showing an error dialog if users can’t edit on Wikidata (phab:T235154)

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Tech News: 2019-49

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Recent changes

  • Mix'n'match is a tool to connect Wikidata items to information in other databases. It can be used to find subjects that are missing in a Wikipedia. It now has more than 3000 datasets. Before it was closer to 2000.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 December. It will be on all wikis from 5 December (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Advanced item There will be a new schema for XML dumps. Scripts and apps that use them will need to be updated. If they are not updated they will no longer work. [4]
  • Advanced item The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work in the content namespaces. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it returns "" (empty string). When you read a page it returns "-" (dash). In the future this will also affect other namespaces. The next ones are file and category namespaces. [5]

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16:58, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Ross Kolby Draft

Hi Cassiopeia! I have now tried to rewrite and correct the page Draft:Ross Kolby to meet your comments. Could you please skim through the new draft to see if I have managed to meet the criterias? I am grateful for any feedback and advice. Constituto (talk) 14:00, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Constituto Greetings. Pls provide inline citations so I could check the content claimed as per source - see WP:REFB for info and instruction. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:18, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Constituto Hi again, Cassiopeia. Thanks, sure. I have now tried to insert all inline citations I find needed. Most are in Norwegian but as you will see independent, reliable sources such as major Norwegian newspapers, magazines or the National Broadcaster NRK. I hope this is sufficient.Constituto (talk)
Constituto good day. thank you for adding the inline citation. Kindly click the submit button. I will let other patroller to review the article since I have done that before. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:54, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA Hi again! I wonder if you know what this person mean I have written to you that is vandalism? It is a hefty word, as all I try to do is to write a serious article and follow Wikipedia's rules. Here is what this person wrote to me: November 2019. Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at User talk:CASSIOPEIA. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Jeb3Talk at me hereWhat I've Done 13:48, 21 November 2019 (UTC). And here is my answer: Hi User:Jecubed. I am sorry if I have made an edit that is not correct. I am not sure which you mean? I try to do all edits according to the Wikipedia standards. Could you please specify what edit I did wrong, so I can be sure not to do a similar one again? Constituto (talk) 12:21, 23 November 2019 (UTC). I don't get what I have done wrong or why this person uses this kind of language. Could you advice me, CASSIOPEIA? Best, Constituto (talk) 07:39, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Constituto courtesy of pinging @Jebcubed:. Hi Constituo, Jebcubed meannt THIS EDIT you made on my talk page where by you changed my message and deleted a chunk of other messages when you write on my talk page. You might accidentally deleted the content and not aware of it. Let me know if anything I could help. Cheers.08:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA Hi Cassiopeia. Really! I am so sorry. Of course I never intended to delete anything at your talk page. I have no idea of how I managed to. Manoeuvering at these Wikipedia sites is somewhat challenging and very diffirent from anything I am used to. So I have accidentally done something wrong. I am glad it could be restored. Could you please check for me that my draft has been successfully submitted? Best, Constituto (talk) 13:33, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


Constituto No worries, mistakes happen and I have accidentally deleted other editors' messages as well. Your draft has yet to be reviewed, kindly be patient for other reviewer has yet to come across to review the draft yet. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:29, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA Thank you! I understand. I'll wait and see what they say. But as you declined it first and knows what is needed for having an article accepted; can you see anything I should work on or change to have it accepted? Would you accept it as it is now if you were to decide? I have, as others, found my subject to be notable, I have inline citations from good reliable sources and I have tried to write the article in a neutral style. Best, Constituto (talk) 11:43, 2 December 2019 (UTC)


Constituto The subject does pass WP:NACTOR or WP:NAUTHOR, but as GNG it depends on the sources. The back log for articles waiting to be reviewed is 2+ months. Pls be patient. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:00, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA I see. As my subject has published two novels at major publishing houses in Norway and Denmark and been reviewed several times in major newspapers I thought that would make him pass as WP:NAUTHOR. I see by the criteria for actors that he is not famous enough. Should I remove the actor part, then? But as an artist having portayed three Kings of Norway and Dame Vera Lynn supported by Norwegian National Broadcaster citations I assumed he would pass. I do not know what GNG is? I was inspired to write this article by reading about another Norwegian artist Sverre Malling. That article has passed the reviewers here. Best, Constituto (talk) 17:49, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Constituto, there is only one source of the book review in the article at the moment, pls add more and wait for other patroller to review the article. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:02, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA OK, thanks! I have added some new links, so that there are now two book reviews on both his published books as well as links to the author's page on the publishing houses' websites. Best, Constituto (talk) 11:01, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

NPP Barnstarn

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
Thank you for all the work you've done recently for NPP. Your efforts at not only training new reviewers but in assembling materials that other reviewers could use was already amazing and so appreciated. The further efforts you've done around the userboxes and the logo is further appreciated and just above and beyond. Thanks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:56, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Barkeep49 Thank you for the barnstar and appreciation. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:09, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

high-pressure source ventilation

You claim that this article is not notable without doing any research yourself, are you knowledgable on the subject? I have added simple references, the article is a stub page and is useful as such and should be in main space even as a stub page. DemandAmbition (talk) 10:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC) DemandAmbition (talk) 10:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


Hi DemandAmbition Greetings. Article content need to be supported significant coverage of independent, reliable sources for verification where by the sources talk about the subject in length and in dept and not merely passing mentioned for notability requirement. You article has no source this edit for such content can not be verified. As stub class article would be notable as long as the abovementioned is met. Thank you for the submission. We have about 4k draft articles (AfC) waiting to be reviewed and the backlog is about 2.5 months, thus kindly be patient. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:57, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Draftity

Hello Cass, I had a few questions when do we draftity an article and which script is used? Also when do we apply WP:R2? Andrew Base (talk) 15:34, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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