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Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:26, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you. 122.179.221.229 (talk) 03:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)chantern15122.179.221.229 (talk) 03:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. 122.179.221.229 (talk) 03:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)chantern15122.179.221.229 (talk) 03:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

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- LuckyLouie (talk) 01:47, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Let's have some fun.Chantern15 (talk) 02:09, 1 October 2021 (UTC)chantern15

I see someone created an account in my name on Hindi Wikipedia yesterday. [1],[2]. Is this what you meant by "fun"? - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Why're you looking at me? I'm not an imposter, bro or sis. :)223.236.202.200 (talk) 16:27, 1 October 2021 (UTC)chantern15

I’m going to assume the Hindi thing was some kind of cross-wiki notification glitch and nothing to do with you. And I remain puzzled by your “let’s have some fun” non sequitur above. Note that the DS notice was only to make you aware that the topic area you’re working in has certain restrictions. I had resisted sending you a DS notice before this, because it appeared you were a new user having a hard time understanding how Wikipedia editorial policies worked. But even after you had relevant policies explained to you by several editors, you continued to SOAPBOX and complain about bureaucracies, too many rules, not being able to make the changes you want to make [3] etc., and suggesting that editors must be biased against certain subjects [4]. If that kind of behavior escalates to WP:DISRUPTION, you could be vulnerable to DS sanctions. - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:10, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Can't be bold without being sanctioned.Chantern15 (talk) 00:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)chantern15

It's not a glitch mate, when you enter another language Wikipedia from the one you were on previously, Wikipedia auto creates an account on that one, if you were signed in. It's like a welcoming. The kind which I got when I joined EnWiki. I had the same thing happen to me when I went to the Hindi Wikipedia.Chantern15 (talk) 02:19, 2 October 2021 (UTC)chantern15

Hello, just an important note about NPOV (since the above called to "reflect all views to be NPOV"): on Wikipedia "neutral point of view" has a specific definition and as part of the WP:NPOV policy is WP:GEVAL (avoiding a false balance between all views). Then part of WP:FRINGE are WP:FRIND and WP:PARITY: in journalism, one could use the primary source for a claim and echo it, on Wikipedia we expect independent reliable sources to put such claims in context, so that it's possible for articles to reflect that analysis instead of indiscriminately promoting one's claims, or resulting in false balance by presenting pro/con views as equal opinions (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, of course). —PaleoNeonate – 03:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Oh well I see that it was also explained here. —PaleoNeonate – 03:40, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

PaleoNeonate I would appreciate that your post could be written as a separate topic, as I don't know about which particular event you are talking about (but if it isn't, it's okay). But I have read the policies which you have mentioned here and WP:FAILN.Chantern15 (talk) 04:19, 5 November 2021 (UTC)chantern15

It was about this edit (so the same topic LuckyLouie was talking about), sorry if it was unclear and for my delayed response (sometimes it takes a while for me to catch up with article/talk history). —PaleoNeonate – 12:52, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

That's okay, I see now, and thank you for your inputs, I will keep them in mind.Chantern15 (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2021 (UTC)chantern15

For further context in this conversation with LuckyLouie, please see and: .Chantern15 (talk) 01:48, 9 November 2021 (UTC)chantern15

October 2021

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that in this edit to Identity politics, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 20:04, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

It was not a mistake, and I explained my reasons why, the definition of Identity Politics was not sourced from an academic journal, but articles on socialist websites and the website of Berkeley University. Furthermore, the tone of the article was as if Wikipedia itself was stating these to be true, and not from a neutral tone, describing the sources and their viewpoint. Chantern15 (talk) 20:07, 31 October 2021 (UTC)chantern15

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Sometimes secondary academic sources like university material is better than primary journal sources. Berkeley University can hardly be called a "socialist website".. —PaleoNeonate – 03:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

PaleoNeonate I wasn't talking about Berkeley when I said "Socialist", I was talking about "LibSyn" and the "MonthlyReview" (citations 3 and 4), which clearly state that they are "socialist" and a very particular kind of socialism. Hence my doubts about about whether they would be reliable in stating in the first voice about identity politics.Chantern15 (talk) 04:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)chantern15

Ok, I think you did the right thing to go at RSN for LibSyn. —PaleoNeonate – 12:47, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you.Chantern15 (talk) 17:05, 5 November 2021 (UTC)chantern15

Your submission at Articles for creation: Richard Katzmayr (October 31)

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Theroadislong (talk) 21:01, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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Your comments at Talk:Ellsworth UFO sighting

In response to AndyTheGrump you wrote if you read the content of that dispute (that is, this) you will find that it has merit [...] I have only written a wall of text where it was required AndyTheGrump had clearly read and understood the dispute, so suggesting they hadn't is assuming bad faith on their part. Regarding the merit of that dispute, I believe it likely that most editors would come to a conclusion opposite yours. Additionally, walls-of-text of the type you added to both the disputed article and the dispute discussion are never "required," and they are pretty much never welcome (see WP:WALLS). You might not recognize it, but a great deal of good faith is being extended to you in that dispute discussion. I extend more of that good faith here by suggesting that you begin editing in such a way that your desired content additions do not ignite disputes that involve (on your part) a weak understanding of, or respect for, WP:NPOV, WP:UNDUE, WP:GEVAL, WP:NOT, WP:RS, WP:FRINGE, and WP:SYNTH. I fear you are trending in that direction, and if it continues the outcome is unlikely to be a good one. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 01:39, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

I would like to say that I appreciate your concerns, but I believe that preserving and expanding Wikipedia is a good goal, and if you read the sources that I have provided with respect to the Malmstrom Incident and the Ellsworth Incident, and how I have covered it, they cover the topics and in good detail if not significant. And I hope to find more sources to back them up, which requires time.Chantern15 (talk) 01:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)chantern15

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Your draft article, Draft:Richard Katzmayr

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

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