User talk:Charles01/Archive 6

Renault 12

Hello Charles, according to Automobil Revue, the R12 was introduced in September of 1969. Hope that helps. Regards, --328cia (talk) 19:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes: that's what I found on line, but somehow I believe it more if it is in print. So now I'm convinced! Regards Charles01 (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Whispering bells

Hello Charles, thank you for changing the formatting on the Goertz talk page. Please drop me a line and let me know how you did it, so that in further conversation with Moses I´ll be able to adjust the font size myself. Cheers, --328cia (talk) 14:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

PS: This guy with his heaven-sent knowledge reminds me of Mr Alfone on German wp who claimed to have been told by Peter Monteverdi that the latter designed the Volvo 740 (and the first Range Rover, too...), and similar nonsense, like the Cadillac Seville being a Pininfarina design. Obviously, once a year such arrogant morons are bound to cross my path. --328cia (talk) 14:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Somehow when you autosign someone else's contribution, the font size is reduced. The edit window includes the instruction . To undo it at the end of the line you simply enter . If you simply open this page as though to edit it, you'll see what I mean.

I don't really follow the discussions on German wiki. But on the subject of Monteverdis, there's a picture I took in Lenzerheide (where I washed dishes in an hotel for a ski season in 1978) of the Monteverdi Allraeder which I'm SURE shares it's windscreen with the early Range Rover and I assume it is therefore the Monteverdi Safari that was Range Rover based. But someone has 'corrected' my caption. Well, he might be right. But .... I think it unlikely. And I think Peter Monteverdi himself may no longer be alive (ok I'll check on wikip[edia when I've sent this). I used to have a friend in Binningen (where Monteverdi had it's being) when I worked in Basel, but contact lapsed many years ago.. Ho hum. Must take my daughter to karate now. Happy day Charles01 (talk) 15:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

On Goertz I feel cross with myself for caring about his title, because in principal I find that sort of thing silly (and seriously corrupting of those who take it seriously - ask that nice Mr Blair how he funded the Labour Party while loyal Helmut was doing nothing more sinister than refusing to discuss allegations of letting the French Steuerzahler fund the CDU....). They again, titles were presumably important to Goertz, so that legitimately makes it important also to us at least in the context of Goertz. Or? I know next to nothing about the subject, but I sort of assumed that the Linksradikalen who were in the ascendancy at the time when the Americans were persuading Wilhelm Hohenzollern to relocate to Doorn would have done away with the silliness of titles. From the anglo perspective, there's a pretty strong link between titles and emperors Charles01 (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I don´t care all that much for this topic myself, but I certainly don´t care a bit for self-serving folks uttering claims without anything to back them up; that really makes me angry. See also the BMW 507 talk page and Moses` own talk page. --- Monteverdi died several years ago, but I e-mailed the Volvo archives in Sweden; they strictly denied that PM had anything to do with the 740, and they should know. You´ll find details on that on the Monteverdi page on de:wp, in case you´re interested, although it´s not worth investigating, really. A good day to you! --328cia (talk) 16:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Interesting comparison

Between [1] and [2]. I wonder what it signifies. Kittybrewster ☎ 16:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Interesting subject for a study, I agree. Quite a long study, I fancy, since I suspect the answer would have quite a lot of points. Oder? Charles01 (talk) 16:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Top 10 of Europe

Hello Charles,

regrettably I am not able to help you on this. I haven´t seen such a page on de:wp (let alone it:wp) so far and have no sources of my own available. Pan-Euro figures are rarely publicized here, although you may find a notice on the best-selling cars Eurowide every now and then in AutoBild or ams, but I don´t read them on a regular basis.

As for Germany only, Auto Katalog used to print German (and many other) sales figures on a yearly basis; but all I have at hand are the ´60s editions and a single 1985 plus a 1992 catalogue; my other volumes have gone lost somewhere along the way. Automobile Revue only gives production figures.

Kind regards, Michael (new-born owner of a W126 420 SE, by the way) --328cia (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. My guess is it will sip something like 14 L/100 km, which isn´t that much more than my Alfa 164s. Anyway, I´m not racking up that many miles per year. I love Bruno Saccos W126 design (a SEC would be better still, but these command absurd prices), and this car was a) dirt cheap; b) is in excellent condition [three owners in 22 years - one industrialist and two retired gentlemen), no rust to be seen; and c) was right around the corner from my home - some three miles away! --- A friend of mine owns a 1989 300 SE with 650.000 kms on the clock - first engine, first ´box, so I`m confident this car will accompany me until it´s time to meet my maker - crazy German car taxes notwithstanding...

I´ve always liked the Polo; we had a ´98 or so SDI in office, and it was always great fun to zip through city traffic with it, and it was surprisingly agile with its 48 PS. Once I drove a rented Toledo (in ca. 2000); very pleasing looks, but the non-turbo 1.8 5V engine was rough and loud - what I would call a Bauernmotor.

That´s it for today. On my desk is Walton`s Audi quattro book for me to translate - a boring subject (for me) and the text is ever soooo repetitive.

Regards,--328cia (talk) 19:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiCookie

Just stopping by with cookies for those editors who started new articles. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		...for the excellent pictures you uploaded. The cars are very interesting, and the backgrounds are sometimes still more interesting. Moreover: Your pictures are priceless, because you took them in the 1970s and 1980s, and in several countries. Randroide (talk) 21:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

George Duff

Can you please tell why this article starts with "captain"? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 09:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed that it did, but yes. At the time of his death he held the rank of captain in the British Navy. It is because of this, and activites deriving from it, that he has had enough written about him to feed a small (but I think at LEAST averagely interesting to those who are interested in the surrounding subjects) wikipedia entry. Never having captained anything larger than a river boat for a couple of hours after lunch, I do not expect ever to merit a wiki entry on myself. On the other had, and looking on the brighter side, I don't anticipate that a large French cannon ball will blow my torso apart. I guess that folks who die violently do tend to attract more retrospective comment than they might, during their lives, have anticipated. Then again, given (1) his career choices and (2) the fact that the Brits were at war with most of the adjacent states at this time, I guess he would at least have been aware that his risk of experiencing a violent demise were above average for the population as a whole. Though probably, if you think back to the way folks thought back then, he would have said that the timing and nature of his demise were matters for God and not for him to consider.

Is there any (even) more profound concern that you have with the entry? Please share, if so. Thus the traditional dialectic. Or? (Probably more useful on the talk page itself if so: I'll copy this lot over.)

Regards Charles01 (talk) 10:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Auto image policy discussion

Thank you for your articulate, thoughtful, appropriately-witty comments in the ongoing discussion. Your point about IFCAR (talk · contribs) vis-à-vis Mitsubishi making it very difficult to describe their historic range coherently is a very good one. As I told IFCAR, I think probably a significant part of the perception of his behaviour is down to nothing more than the large number of images he contributes, but even though that's not entirely fair (compare the general perception of Microsoft), it is a reality and he will likely experience a good deal less friction and resistance if he will thoughtfully recognise this perception, acknowledge it, and work to ease it. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 15:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Um ... noted. And reassuring that I'm not the only one to have gained this impression of one commendably prolific photographer. Though of course, if your theme is friction, I think you have to recognize that lots of folks simply thrive on the stuff. No further thoughts. Good weekend. Regards Charles01 (talk) 15:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

E 27

... from my talk page

I have added the link to the box for you and moved the article to European route E27 for consistancy. As for the maps, i've no idea. Try WikiProject Highways, WikiProject Europe, or the talk page of International E-road network. Jake the Editor Man _(talk) 16:09, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Very many thanks. Regards. Good weekend. Charles01 (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

European route E62

Can you please provide some reliable sources for this article? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes. As you may have noticed it's a translation work currently in progress! Charles01 (talk) 10:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Chrysler Alpine's plastic bumpers

We forgot about the Triumph Herald! Jason404 (talk) 09:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the bumpers of the Chrysler Alpine (and the Renault 5) were large mouldings, though presumaby they were bolted using steel components to the car's frame. I guess the combination of strength and rigidity in the plastics in question would be a function of developments in the materials technologies that had taken place during the 1960s and made this sort of combination available at an acceptable price for the auto makers.

I never disected the bumper on a Triumph Herald. I'd assumed they were old fashioned metal bumpers - the kind that turned up chrome plated on Ford Anglias and Morris Minors - but painted with some less expensive (and less noxious to apply than chrome) rust inhibitor and then given a rubber facing. So that in this case the structural strength would have come from old fashioned mild steel bent to shape. Pure assumption on my part, but even if I'm wrong at the detailed level, I don't think the rubber coated bumpers of the Herald really count as plastic bumpers - and certainly not in the style of those on the later Renault and Simca/Chrysler products. But I probably should stop burbling: the nice thing about wiki is the way that it has the potential to find an expert on everything, and I'm certainly not the expert on bumper design & manufacture in the European motor industry. Regards Charles01 (talk) 05:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

not a lamborghini jarama

Beautifull photograph of the green gt in London. Unfortunately it is not a Lamborghini Jarama. It is an Iso Rivolta Lele. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.94.43.203 (talk) 16:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you may be right. Who are you, please? Charles01 (talk) 17:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

please have a look at :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Quest stephane.jourdan gmail —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.76.226 (talk) 05:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for edits to Dassow article

Charles, Thank you for editing the Dassow article. I translated it from the German to English, but still had typos. I stopped editing the article when I found out that I have a conflict of interest according to Wikipedia Guidelines because my last name is the same as the name of the city. --Dan Dassow (talk) 13:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing. It's the sort of thing one can worry away at off and on for months. That's what I did with translating Deidesheim into English. Not necessarily efficient use of time, but nonetheless sometimes irresistable. Though I've never been to Dassow: I don't have the background knowledge to worry away at that one in the same way.

Since you did make contact, I see you (at least .. it probably was you) include a red link to Moritz von Paepcke . If ever you have access to information to turn that red link blue, I'd be interested to read the resulting entry. By a series of steps, I recently discovered that I am distantly related to the von Paepcke family. (The maternal grandfather of Moritz came from England and had a younger sister from whom I descend.) Well yes, it's a long shot that you might be able to access sources on the von Paepckes. But the one certainty is that if one never asks the questions one will never know the answers.

Regards Charles01 (talk) 13:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Charles, so far I have not been able to find anything useful concerning the von Paepcke family. Unfortunately, a lot of German ancestry information was lost during the time of Otto von Bismarck. --Dan Dassow (talk) 21:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You might wish to check out The Genealogy of the Canning Family Mary Theresa Canning. Born 22nd August 1814. Died Quassel, Mecklenburg 2nd March 1889. Married Hamburg, 27th July 1837 Heinrich Friedrich Ludwig Edler von Paepke from Lütgenhof near Dassow. Moritz von Paepcke is their son. --Dan Dassow (talk) 21:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks. Yes, that fits. Regards Charles01 (talk) 05:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I hope to eventually write a Wikipedia article about Moritz von Paepcke, but so far there does not seem to be enough information to support a notable article. The history of Schloss Lütgenhof is rather interesting and Moritz von Paepcke and his family are key players. By an odd co-incidence, User: kittybrewster posted to User Talk:Charles01 eight minutes (Charles01 history) after I did. She indicates on User:Kittybrewster/About_me that she is associated with the website http://www.kittybrewster.com/ancestry/canning.htm . --Dan Dassow (talk) 11:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

(Replied offlist. C)Charles01 (talk) 11:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Some help needed

Hi Charles01, could you take a look article which I translated via online translator Fàbrica Nacional de Motores, it needs some better english and some german words that I cant find the suspension part in table and what means Schneckenlenkung in steering section. any help welcome rgds --— Typ932^{T | C}  17:16, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

With pleasure. Looks as if I'll learn a good bit along the way. If you have taken it from the German, then I'll review the English against the French. Logic suggests that it may have started out in the Brazilian version of Portuguese, but my Portuguese does not extend beyond the ability to ask for fish soup...and actually I cannot now remember the Portuguese for fish soup.

I think there used to be a type of steering called, in English, worm and something. Was there something called 'worm and roller'? Not sure. This technical vocabulary isn't my strength, and Mr Langenscheidt presumably would expect me to get a technical dictionary. Still, we do have a multi volume pocket book sized Meyers Taschen Lexikon that might help. It may be a form of steering that in English got a new name at some stage in the past but I didn't notice the change.

Regards Charles01 (talk) 18:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there is something in http://www.dict.cc/german-english/Schneckenlenkung.html, but I think we need our German friend here to give the right answer...the suspension part is also missing something when translated and yes the article is translated via german article with minor modifications so far. --— Typ932^{T | C}  18:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The article looks quite good now, maybe needs some sectioning (headers)? great work --— Typ932^{T | C}  16:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think we're getting somewhere. And I agree that one of us needs to put in some headings before we're finished with this one. One of the nice things about translating these wiki entries is that one keeps hitting questions. I can't help thinking the Italian (and German and French) source entries on FNM fizzle out a bit towards the end. I can't help wondering what actually happened to the plant near Rio. Maybe it is turning out little Fiat / Iveco trucks even now? There's not too much in English wiki about the commercial vehicle (ie trucks and vans) operations of either Fiat or Alfa Romeo. Nor even - that I have found till now - in the other languages. I wonder if that fellow Luc who produced a lot of the Italian car entries - at least for the 1950s and 60s - could be persuaded to attempt some separate articles on the van and truck operations. He seems to have good sources for European cars. But maybe for Brazilian questions one is better hoping to inspire or persuade a Brazilian enthusiast to come up with something. Maybe we just need a bit of wiki-patience.

Just thinking on paper. I may come back for an hour or so after eating. Otherwise ... a domani or whatever.

Regards Charles01 (talk) 17:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi.

Sorry for the delay in a response. Usually I don't login when I access wiki, but I'm still active!

Indeed I know a lot about the brazilian automotive industry (since I was born in this country and I'm car enthusiast). I know that the FNM was a important piece for the instalation of Fiat in Brazil, since in the 60's and 70's it was very hard get a license to build a car in Brazil and impossible to import then, so to enter in brazilian market, Fiat bought not the FNM, but Alfa Romeo in Italy, that owned FNM at that time. With this, Fiat got a passport to enter in the brazilian market. The production of their first passenger car began in 1976 with the Fiat 147 (based upon the italian Fiat 127), in Betim, near Belo Horizonte. Currently Fiat do Brasil is the largest brazilian car manufacturer in terms of cars build and sold per year.

I'm really amazed to write an article about Fiat do Brasil. I speak both portuguese and italian, so I can search for a lot of material about this subject. Anyway, I'm concerned about just translating the portuguese version (because it doesn't talks about the Fiat in Brazil, but about world Fiat), so I'll have to write it from the scratch.

Thanks for the suggestion. Regards

Gabrieldiego (talk) 22:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

This is excellent news. Thank you. I look forward to seeing the new entry.

(Then at some stage I guess one of us will need to rebalance the FNM entry. But in my judgement that's a task for afterwards.)

Regards Charles01 (talk) 07:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

A Schneckenlenkung is indeed a worm and roller-type steering; a Trapezlenker is, to the best of my knowledge, in US terms an A-arm or else a so-called unequal-length wishbone suspension (or Doppel-Dreieckslenkerachse). Hope the two of you are doing fine, and I admire your apparently endless patience in contributing here. I blew my temper for good. --- All the best, Michael --328cia (talk) 02:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. And yes.

If you look at the dates, you'll see that I really am working through the Bandini entry Zug um Zug (molto poco di poco?) One of the problems is that the Italian text is really just a rather breathless list of what happened, as far as I can tell not very correct grammatically and written by someone who doesn't always understand what his sources are telling him. It would be lovely to come across better sources. And for that matter, the area of cars that obsesses me has more to do with cars one sees on the street than with cars that go round and round in circles until they blow up or break down. Or (of course) win. (Though my son has persuaded me to take a slight interest in the British Touring Car Championship in recent years, and we do get wall to wall coverage of F1 on the news bulletins here now the British media-xenophobes have another local hero among the top F1 racing drivers.) But translating the Bandini stuff is still therapeutic in its way, when one hits the right mood. And Bandini himself appears to be a genuinely heroic character - someone who was really good at something, had the luck to find out what he was good at when he was young, and the determination to stick with it through what must, inevitably, have been a bit of a yoyo career. The guy deserves a better write-up than, till now, we have for him in English wiki, and I think we are progressing that. Also, even if I never worked in it, I do find Italian a beautiful language. When I worked in Basel several of my best (and other most talking) colleagues were Italian, and while the 'educated bourgeois' types were determined to use English (or French) to me, one still has a lot of Italian mother tongue (or semi-mother tongue, since like much of Germany, in much of Italy the dialect you speak at home is very different from the language you speak at school or in the office) in Basel.

Hmmmm. Good weekend. Charles01 (talk) 07:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)