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HI

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In Korea, well man, I don´t think Korea is a bad place, anyone of the two that exists. You are from North or South Korea?? and how are you going to study in Moscow?? by some kind of treatment between countries?? And to start, which WWII plane was your favorite??--OverG (talk) 15:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P-51 Mustang was an incredible plane, it had the possibility to go all the way to Germany escorting the B-17 bombers using two external tanks, but that doesn´t descredit, because even it was able to achieve outstanding maneuverability. It had an incredible punch, with it 6 caliber 50 guns. No, I guess didn´t have anything negative to say about. There is something about the cooling system but that it´s like nothing. My favorite fighter was the Soviet YAK-3, wich also gave it contribution in the east front.Here in Wikipedia there is only a little infomration about it, and sometimes is wrong.--OverG (talk) 18:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think that North Korea doesn´t have Internet Acces?? Who says that to you??In fact what did you know about the other Korea?? I really want to know as we are of opossed sides of the planet, geografically speaking--OverG (talk) 18:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I live in an Island, but it´s not Australia or New Zeland, Im sure New Zeland is a beautiful place, I will go there sometime, but my first option is Japan, I really like that country. I guess that is because japanese and us are seemed, we both are fierce warriors, and have a special sense of honor. The diference is that we made things with a little more intelligence. Wich aviation do you like most?? USA, Russian or European, to give some options. Oh, Bro, please don´t be so laconic, I tell that Im a pilot-engineer, you could ask me anything you want, Im trying to establish friendship after all.--OverG (talk) 02:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I am, but a little young yet. I only fly in trainers for now, the case is that I love aircrafts, and no matter in what, while in sky, Im OK. If you do not have any problem, you could tellme how old you are? I have always liked Soviet and Russian planes.--OverG (talk) 19:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, so quick as this summer! I really envy you, Bro. I still have to wait to go to Japan.--OverG (talk) 19:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you are creating some pages about Russian aircraft engines. As I see Klímov, Tursmansky, etc. If you do not have any problem I could help you as there is no good information at all about Sov/Rus engines. The fact is that I don´t know how to do a good edit yet, so if I give you the information and you edit it until I get skilled on editing, you tell me, ok. Here in my country, high school students ages are between 15 and 18. Is the same in Korea? What kind of aeronautics career you will like to take?? The mechanical one, or the radioelectronic one? Engineer or a technician? If you have any doubt about the career, you can ask me without problem, ok, as I studied the same.--OverG (talk) 23:32, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

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Well, I don´t have a clue about the education line over there, but Im sure I can help you with one thing. Here, where I live, the High school is named pre-university and from there you can study a career y the university. There are two kinds of levels in the university, the half superior level where you leave as a technician and the superior level, where you leave as an engineer. In aeronautics there are two types of engineering: the mechanical and the radioelectronic. Im a mechanical one, we are the rectors of the aeronautical specialty, the bosses if you like to say. We are prepared to fix and proyect aircraft as we learn aerodinamics, theory of aviation motors, construction all that together with the knowledges that make you a mechanic, like material resistance, mechanical design, etc, there is to much to talk about. Overall we are the ones with the biggest preparation as we also study electrotechnics, onboard equipment and others. It´s a hard but beautiful career, Im of the ones who think, that no matter how hard could be, if you really want no barrier can stop you. Of course you will continue to learn maths and physics about the first two years. The pilot career is an option I advise you to take after the engineering, why? a pilot is less than a technician. They doesn´t have a great field of work and are subjects to physical problems. Well I hope this serves you, greetings.--OverG (talk) 17:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What you need to do if you want to study an university career? and by the way, how is the education line over there? I mean kinder-elementary-school high, etc. Please tell me.--OverG (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That´s a nice question. For the time being Im in one Air Base, trying to learn all that I can. Taking aviation into account, what do you think about the Korean War in the Air?--OverG (talk) 01:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, what I wanna know is about your opinion in respect to the sides in conflict. I explain... I know now that you liked F-86 Sabre aver all, I think it was a very good plane, revolutionary for the time. But I want to ask you. You believe the USA telling that they downed 792 MIG-15s?? Or you believe the Russian part, where about 30 soviet pilots downed a total of 300 aircraft of all types?? I have my very own opinion and I spect for you to share it.--OverG (talk) 23:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don´t worry, it´s usual that you doesn´t have a definitive opinion, because like you said the parts use to exaggerate. But please think for a moment, maybe one of the claimings is true, as North Americans often lie when it´s about wars. I studied the situation a while ago, basing me in pilots interviews, and foreign investigators (not from Russia, USA or anyone of the two Koreas), and I finally get the true. I know this is some kind of tricky to a South Korean like you. In fact I like very much the aircraft history, and one point to debate is that. Otherwise, I really wanna know what do you think about the other Korea, please.--OverG (talk) 19:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There was a confusion, sorry. When I said 300 of all types I wasn´t meaning 300 of each but 300 among all. When we are goint to talk about the quantity of MIG-15 in Korea by that time, we have to think in the situation in Russia, with WWII only 5 years ago, still without recovering completely. The USA was a country that didn´t suffer the war on his territory, so they were able to build aircraft in greatest quantities. How many migs do you think the russians manufactured by 1950? The numbers do not exceed 2000, so it was impossible to send the half to Korea and China. Keeping in mind that like USA said they downed 792, the numbers in use by that time was far from that figure. If it was true that USA pilots downed all the 792 they unquestionably destroyed the half of the Russian Air Force,something that, like you´d say, was a little quite fake. The USA pilots ussually said they were fighting formations of 15 strong and things like that, during WWII russian pilots rarely fly in formations of 10 due to tactics, the russians were the teachers of Koreans an Chinese, so how do you believe that? the exaggerated formations of aircraft become obsolete after WWII. The chinese pilots teached their students flying in formations of four as the principal combat echelon, tactics that they maintained through the years. Some time ago I was able to see a desclassified document of the pentagon where there was the list of aircraft that went to war, and the losses to all causes. It´s amazing how the information could misinform, there was more than 500 sabres lost to AC, I also have some photos of F-86 shoot downs, I can speak of this the whole day. Im not trying to change your mind, Im trying to show you the true, keeping in mind this could be a little hard to a South Korean.--OverG (talk) 16:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well man, sometimes I think Im a little hard with a Highschooler, but you Asians have fame of being very intelligent even at young ages, Im don´t meaning Im old, in fact Im under 25. So please, your able to ask me whatever you wanna know about aircraft. I hope you go serious in this. By the way, recently I was watching a documntal about the World Cyber Games and I discover that a South Korean was champion in the StarCraft fight, also I knew that SC was considered as the chess of the future (that´s a little exaggerated, but well). Do you like PC Games?--OverG (talk) 18:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, you are in test time. Well, as I remember tests in the highschool weren´t hard, however, continue studying, its important to keep that attitude to the university. By the way, do you need to pay the school?--OverG (talk) 19:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well, 64 every 3 months is not bad. How are the conditions of the school? are they good? Hey, do you like flight simulators? civil or combat ones? Im using Lock On right now, it´s not that real in avionics, but it´s a great experience in aerodinamics and forces simulation.--OverG (talk) 22:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the fact that you are studying is what matters, think that many people in the world are still illiterate, so don´t worry if the school is old or whatever, you are a fortunate person. Good Luck on your tests, please let me know your grades once you finish them. I want to continue talking about the air warfare in the Korean War. What do you think about the MIG-15?--OverG (talk) 00:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not as much as that. It´s true that the Mig-15 was the best in many aspects, for example it could maneuver better (dive, turn, climb, etc)it could go higher and accelerate better, but still lacked many things to be perfect. For example, the avionics were not as good as you mention. The planes were subjected to an autoturn phenomenon and were very sensitive to enter drills if the pilot pulled too much the stick (they also left easily, but keeping in mind the "altitude"). However it´s my favorite of the period and I truly believe it was the best of the time. How are you doing with your tests?--OverG (talk) 04:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, how are you? what about your tests? you have made it well?--OverG (talk) 23:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why? What happened?--OverG (talk) 22:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No way, you need then to fix whatever you did wrong, maybe you didn´t study that much. Trust more in your note(books) than your mind (use to trick us). When I was in the 1st year of my engineering I suspended two subjects, but then I was able to fix my problems after a sad week with everybody taking their vacations, I don't want it to anybody. Today I had a problem while I was landing my jet trainer, the flaps failed when lowering to landing position, I was forced to land with take off flaps, the plane seemed a brick falling, really scary. See you.--OverG (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I guess you need to do some kind of revaluations ¿ah? Luckily, as you said, the runway has about 4km and we are trained to face problems like that, our trainers are really good aircraft among the bests in the world.See you.--OverG (talk) 01:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but before, I want you to guess my nationality. Do you agree? Don´t worry, its not a secret, but somehow I wanted to ask you that. See you.--OverG (talk) 21:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not even close. As I said before, I live in an island in America Continent. Im cuban, you have maybe heard many bad things about us, but believe me or not, all those things are a lie. Cuba is a peaceful and nice country and we are always trying to help people around the world. I work in a base in the western region, sorry I cannot tell you wich. Well as I guess, you live in Incheon? You told me once that Korea was no a good place to live, Why do you think that?--OverG (talk) 20:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hola! Please, you could ask me whatever you want, I know very well the things I could tell and the ones I can´t, that are the less ones. Im not afraid about talking to anybody about anything and I guess people should understand when I say that I can´t talk about something, it´s something natural even for my best friends keeping in mind my position. It´s important to know ourselves very well to act like that and Im sure that strength reside not in being secretive, but to be clear, ok, so please don´t be shy. Today we have a problem with the alignment of a fighter engine, when it leaves regulation it´s a nightmare to readjust. Do you like Anime? To Japan this week, man... (T_T) I wanna go too...--OverG (talk) 01:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we can. Tell me what would you do with a damaged engine, impossible to repair? throw away the entire aircraft? of course not, the engine could be changed/replaced by a new one. That´s functional to any airplane. Today we train formation flying, it´s really exciting, you need to be very careful when doing this in jets. About the Anime, I have around 103 series and I have not seen the half yet. Death Note is a great story, I have the two movies and the Anime. PLease, be careful with the American beef you told me in the last message. The disease incubates for about 10 years and I don´t trust American companies, we cubans know Americans more than anybody in the world. About how old are you? I guess 17-18.--OverG (talk) 02:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That´s great. Are you with your family there? My Dad was 2 weeks in Osaka last year for a contract with Sumitomo and he also went to Universal Studios. Im 23 years old. See you brother.--OverG (talk) 01:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will go to Japan some day, I sure want to know that country. So it was an school trip. So your are on vacations right know?--OverG (talk) 01:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it´s me. It´s just that the page log out you automatically when 30 days have passed. What do you mean? I don´t understand. Why you need to go back to Hong Kong? I wasn´t able to write you before because I was on guard duty, when national celebrations happen, the National Guard is in position one, remember, we and EEUU are 90nm away only. Not a trouble, but it is better to prevent that to complain See you.--OverG (talk) 01:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, Cuba is not USA. Cuba and USA are 90nm away only, that was what I tried to say. You could learn about Cuba here in Wikipedia, but please, don´t believe it a lot, many things are wrong. Sorry about the EEUU thing, it´s a spanish acronym, because it is my maternal language sometimes that things happens. What about the studies in Russia? What will you do about it?--OverG (talk) 17:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I mean the studies in the Moscow Aviation Institute you mentioned. What do you need to study there? How often you take vacations? Here, high school students take two months, July and August.--OverG (talk) 22:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Im just a little curious, about what do you need to do to study in Russia, that´s all. In winter, high schoolers have a week also, but people that are working like Im, have two vacations in a year, about one month each. Have you seen MAKS airshows?--OverG (talk) 02:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, How are you? I expect that you have seen the inauguration of beijing 2008, Awesome! the chinese showed that they should not be taken slightly. Ok, what are you doing? I recently buy a new joystick because the older one I had was broken by my smaller brother, in that moment I desire to put him in the back cockpit and pull 8Gs. What do you need to do to see the entire MAKS Air Show? It´s that difficult to get?--OverG (talk) 01:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How are you and your cold? I believe you are already well. I ask the MAKS thing to you because here in my country it´s easy to get all kinds of aviation shows and I just supposed that there in Korea was easy too. How are you doing? Here there´s nothing new, except a lot of work at the base. The next week Im on vacations and I will go for a while to the beach, Cuba has excellent beaches and I really like to dive, I also will continue watching Anime, right know Im watching Ghost in the Shell. Do you believe that I will resist 10 days without flying?? See you--OverG (talk) 01:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, how are you doing? Tomorrow Im supposed to go to the beach, but we have a tropical storm near and maybe need to wait for it to pass trough. What about your health? are you OK by now? Well, if Cuba´s connection to the internet was a bit faster Im sure I could send you the airshows without problems, but we need to wait until 2010 when the fiber optics come. So to keep talking about the Air War in Korea, there was different variants of mig-15, do you know wich one was in the conflict. Im sure that when you know better the MIG-15 you will like it more than the Sabre. See you.--OverG (talk) 02:31, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I didn´t know wich one was for sure, but I guess it was the first production version, the MIg-15 or the Mig-15P. In what Im sure is that this version didn´t have hydraulic actuators, it was all man power moving surfaces with servocompensators. Do you like baseball? Tonight our countries are on the field.--OverG (talk) 02:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, sorry for being lost a long time. When I was in the beach I didn´t have an internet conection so you understand. Anyway I was sure I wrote you a message last Friday. See you.--OverG (talk) 14:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I want to congratulate you, Korea won the baseball gold medal, it was a fair game so I don´t have anything to say, we´ll see in the future. So how are you doing? I was searching for information about the engines you open information here but I found none, I will continue trying.--OverG (talk) 18:39, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Gimje Airport

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I have nominated Gimje Airport, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gimje Airport. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Undead Warrior (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. As you should know, Cuba was affected by two hurricanes, Gustav and Ike, those wich left a great amount of damage to the country since they were category 4 when they hit the land. About 5 counties still lack electricity and many wooden houses were destroyed. Nature can be cruel from time to time.Let me ask you something. What do you need to do in your country to be a pilot, military or civil??--OverG (talk) 02:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, how are you? I´m impressed, there are many ways to become a pilot in Korea, undoubtedly easier than here in my country, were pilots only came from military schools.(well it´s also a true that we don´t have so much money as Korea) So you didn´t want to become one?--OverG (talk) 03:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have a lot of work at these days so I hardly could find time to write or check my messages here. I hope you are ok and studying a lot too, so you could become a great pilot or wathever you want to be. If you want to talk in an easier way, you could give your e-mail so it´s better for me. I work with Mig-29s and L-39s and I fly the later. See you.--OverG (talk) 02:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, How long!

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Hello man, your are lost. How´s your life going? Recently I found time to write and I see that maybe your were out for a time of the Wiki. How´s the family doing? Greetings--OverG (talk) 04:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I guess that is better to say that you read about me again. For what you say your are paying a lot of attention to school, that´s good, it means that you have taken my advices from later (and o course, a lot of them from other people). So how´s school. Maybe you don´t believe me, but apart from a venezuelan, who is a pilot like me (he´s not engineer)and a scientific Argentinean you are the only person out there with the one that I have certain communication. Of course, the reason it´s not that Im not able to, but a lack of time. Sometimes I think that is a good thing to have a lot of friends all over the world. Our national hero said once "Homeland is humanity". It´s really bad how individualism has expanded, especially in capitalist societies. See you.--OverG (talk) 03:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is something that you could say I took of an Anime, but it´s a true of stone, no matter how the world is around you, if you are the only one to maintain honor and courage then nothing is lost, and of course there are many people still honorable out there. Sometimes, big changes emerges out of little ones, sometimes within the heart of a single person is the power to reach others hearts. That is to say that no matter what happens, we must never surrender, and be good persons over all, in this way the life will give us it´s true fruits. The secret behind of not to be betrayed is not to expect a reward for favors we made to others. I´m tired of seeing many series and films from many countries were brothers kill brothers, and many of the new persons meet by the characters, are potential enemies, they induces you to think you can´t trust nobody, things are not that absolute, life is not lineal, is a curve, a variable. Well Im too young to philosophize that much, sorry. By the way, do you train some martial art?--OverG (talk) 02:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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